PG/VG name brand vs. brand "x"

[Kevbro]

O.K. I want to jump into mixing my own juice, but none of the PG/VG from various suppliers lists a manufacturer.

I'm looking for Superol KPO from Procter & Gamble. Also, DOW PuraGuard. The suppliers that I've managed to find seem to be for large scale distribution. A gallon or so of each would keep me rockin' for a long time.

All the threads on here seem to deal with Humco or Swan. Even some health food store brands thrown into the mix.

I'm not trying to be pretentious about the quality of the products in any juice. I mean they haven't even identified half of the 3k-4k chemicals in kill ya' dead ciggs. But now, given the opportunity to know what the MSDS of any certain juice additive is, how could you not want to know?

Any DIY veterans out there have experience with what I'm going through? I would appreciate any info or advice you have.

kev

 

[salemgold]

Check with RTS Vapes. I use their PG/VG and I do know that it is P&G and DOW, USP, Kosher.
Good luck.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-flavorless-nicotine-liquid-made-usa-149.html

 

[Kevbro]

Thanks for the info salem. Just for my OCD, I started contacting all the suppliers on my list. Ever since I found this forum, I've OCD'd on flashlights, batteries, binoculars (to watch for the mailman with), and bicycles to focus my new vigor.
I will not stop at juice stuffs.
kev

 

[Rocketman]

I've bought from this place:
http://www.essentialdepot.com/servlet/the-107/Glycerin-Vegetable-KOSHER-USP/Detail

or this special ($53, shipped for 1 gal VG and 1 gal PG):
http://www.essentialdepot.com/servlet/the-218/1-Gallon-Veg-Glycerin/Detail

I've never tried RTS VG but I'm sure it's good stuff. Just don't think it's DOW VG.

 

[nanovapr]

Hi kev, no OCD here, but instead of jumping into gallons, try some smaller batches of several, and choose what you like. I wouldn't try to get a spectrum analysis of any of them. I tried a few, I like RTS for PG/VG/clear nic.

Bicycling? I am new to this, stop by and help me learn.

 

[Rocketman]

Actually, I've found that buying a gallon results in a lower water content from all the repackaging.
You can check the specific gravity to get a pretty good guess on how much water the VG or PG has absorbed from the air during processing.

A little absorbed water won't hurt anything but might throw your dilution off a little.

 

[Sdh]

Ecigexpress sells http://www.ecigexpress.com/diy-supplies-bases-vg-pg-c-43_47/propylene-glycol-usp-select-size-p-1474 which is Dow. They sell VG (proctor & gamble) http://www.ecigexpress.com/diy-supp..._47/vegetable-glycerin-usp-select-size-p-1475 You could ask the vendor more specific questions on these bases. Good luck in your search.

 

[salemgold]

Actually, I've found that buying a gallon results in a lower water content from all the repackaging.
You can check the specific gravity to get a pretty good guess on how much water the VG or PG has absorbed from the air during processing.

A little absorbed water won't hurt anything but might throw your dilution off a little.

I never thought of it that way but makes sense that gallons would require less repackaging and that is always a good thing in my book.

 

[Kevbro]

Yeah sdh, I did that very thing. Contacted about 12 vendors in all. 4 got back with me. & ecigx says right at the bottom of their description that it's dow.
Like what nan said about trying some smaller amounts. I ended up going to wizard lab, very competitive on everything. John was also very prompt with msds. Turns out that they get their PG/VG through essential depot, which is dow/archer daniels respectively.
I saw the jt baker msds said it was o.k. for inhalation, but haven't been able to source any yet.
I think I have a good jumping off point. Thanks for the info
kev
p.s. keep those wheels a rollin' nan

 

[salemgold]

Ooh, I have to say that I have tried the PG/VG from Essential Depot and I am not a fan of it at all.
There are different grades of PG and VG even within the same manufacturer. That information is good to know.

 

[kabonk]

I bought my last gallon of PG from the local tractor store for $20.00

 

[Iffy]

or this special ($53, shipped for 1 gal VG and 1 gal PG):
http://www.essentialdepot.com/servlet/the-218/1-Gallon-Veg-Glycerin/Detail

'Nother ED fan here! Less than $.007 per ml...