Philip Morris VS. Freedom2Vape.com

[Sinless1]

Philip Morris VS. Freedom2Vape.com

Philip Morris Claims They have Trademark rights on the word ”cowboy” and also any western imagery.
cowboy hat , a man on a horse really ?
This seems very ridiculous to me.

They have the docs from Philip morris available.
Download and Have a look for yourself here
Philip Morris VS Freedom2Vape :: Freedom 2 Vape​

 

[bmwjen]

insanity...........
i'm so sick of big tobacco

 

[hairball]

So what word gets banned next? Lights? Cigarette? Carton? Pack? This crap never ceases to amaze me.

 

[Cat_in_the_Playground]

So if I change my avatar to a cowboy, P M is going to sue me?

 

[Sinless1]

So if I change my avatar to a cowboy, P M is going to sue me?

right!

you see the part claiming they have rights to any western imagery?
how ......ed is that!​

 

[Tina326]

I know a few good ole boys who may have a problem with anyone "owning" the word cowboy.

 

[ShannonA]

Philip Morris VS. Freedom2Vape.com

Philip Morris Claims They have Trademark rights on the word ”cowboy” and also any western imagery.
cowboy hat , a man on a horse really ?
This seems very ridiculous to me.

They have the docs from Philip morris available.
Download and Have a look for yourself here
Philip Morris VS Freedom2Vape :: Freedom 2 Vape

I don't see how they can win when so many companies in other5 industries have used it and phillip morris not said a word but we'll see.

 

[ShannonA]

So if I change my avatar to a cowboy, P M is going to sue me?

Yeah cuz you know PM invented the Cowboy (insert eyeroll here).

 

[CBB]

They should have changed the name to "tobacco flavor the A-holes Make." Everyone would know what it was.

 

[ShannonA]

They should have changed the name to "tobacco flavor the A-holes Make." Everyone would know what it was.

Well the thing is that there are vendors (like the one I order from) that offer marlboro flavor, Camel flavor, Winston and so on. Now so far none of them taste just like the real thing but one is closer to one brand and the next to the other... how do they designate which is which? I wonder if R J Reynolds will get on this band wagon and ask them to take the Camel and Winston names off.... I can understand them wanting them to leave Marlboro off but Cowboy? really??? That's just petty Phillip Morris must be worried.

What I really don't get is why the big tobacco companies just don't get on board and make their own juices it would create a new revenue stream... *shrug*

Whoops reading comp fail I skimmed that one my bad.

 

[Sinless1]

They should have changed the name to "Tobacco flavor the A-holes Make." Everyone would know what it was.

Awesome ! LMAO !!

 

[Cat_in_the_Playground]

I can understand PM not wanting vendors to use their TM name, Marlboro, but this is a little much. I can't believe they didn't claim they own the rights to the color red. Next thing, one will claim they own the rights to the word camel and all pictures thereof. And we wonder why the US legal system is so bogged down. Its nice to know they have so much money they can squander it on frivolous lawsuits. I see the economy hasn't hurt their bank accounts.

 

[ShannonA]

I can understand PM not wanting vendors to use their TM name, Marlboro, but this is a little much. I can't believe they didn't claim they own the rights to the color red. Next thing, one will claim they own the rights to the word camel and all pictures thereof. And we wonder why the US legal system is so bogged down. Its nice to know they have so much money they can squander it on frivolous lawsuits. I see the economy hasn't hurt their bank accounts.

Don't think they can on the red... Winston, Pal Mall and several other brands use red to signify their "full flavor" cigs. It's be interesting to see Phillip Morris and R J Reynolds duke it out over the color red though... lol

"Tobacco Giants go to war over the color red film at 11:00"

 

[ShannonA]

I can understand PM not wanting vendors to use their TM name, Marlboro, but this is a little much. I can't believe they didn't claim they own the rights to the color red. Next thing, one will claim they own the rights to the word camel and all pictures thereof. And we wonder why the US legal system is so bogged down. Its nice to know they have so much money they can squander it on frivolous lawsuits. I see the economy hasn't hurt their bank accounts.

They can't claim the Camel that belongs to the OTHER tobacco giant
sorry to reply twice It's almost bedtime my mind isn't keeping up just right.

 

[Brewzz]

Not any different than HD suing small motorcycle shops for using the word "Hog" or "Hawg" in their names.
A friend that had a shop called "The Hawg Pen" was forced to change it to "The Pig Pen", even then, he got a couple of nasty letters, but his lawyer told him they were empty threats at that point.
I believe this issue has to do with the words/names/images being trademarked specifically as they relate to tobacco or smoking related products. I've seen plenty of BBQ places using Hog and Hawg in their names, and I don't see HD going after them.
Unfortunately, these kind of bully tactics by large corps usually come down to who has the most money to continue the court battles. PM knows that these small operations are running on shoestrings, so they'll just keep filing and re-filing lawsuits until it either runs them out of business, or they buckle under and remove the names and images.
As far as others using similar names or images, don't worry, PM will come for them, too. If/when they get the judgment against Freedom2Vape, most of the others can expect to start seeing letters showing up in ther mailboxes soon after.

 

[Caddyman]

Yes, pm is looking to get a ruling and set a precedent with this. if they win it opens a large can of worms for other vendors.

 

[Sinless1]

Yes, pm is looking to get a ruling and set a precedent with this. if they win it opens a large can of worms for other vendors.

I agree!

Does anyone have the info on the law firm that did the SE VS FDA case?
We should pass that to freedom2vape

 

[daisyd]

There's one juice supplier that calls theirs C&D because that's the type of letter they got from P M. I know a LOT of vendors change the name just enough to not be infringement. Maxbor, Mar-boro, etc... I'm curious if they're going after those next...

 

[Secti0n31]

Phillip morris had better be suing the Duke's estate, clint eastwood, Back to the future 3 and Red Dead redemption. Sorry but you can't "own" ALL cowboy imagery. That case is gonna get thrown out of course SO fast.

 

[IOU]

Wow, yes BT should be scared. This little invention is costing them money!
Think of all of us who have either quit buying tobacco products, or at least greatly reduced our spending, due to the e-cig.
I am certain they worry about it a lot!