Phoenix: Still a viable Cloud monster.

[Nurzrachit]

Been away from the Phoenix for a few months, and have focused primarily on Genesis and Hybrid rebuildables. Had a couple of spare hours last week and decided to build up a couple of Phoenix attys.

The first one I did which is the one in the video. I wrapped a 1 ohm Vertical coil with 7 wraps of 28G Kanthal a1, and used a cotton head wick down the hole. The airhole was bored to 1/16th on both sides for a strait flow through design. I used a 50/50 pg/vg blend for the vid, and as you will see had outstanding production. I am using it on a K-100.

My second Phoenix, I set up with dual vertical 28g coils. This is the Phoenix in the still photo's. The airholes were bored to 3/32, and the airflow is like sucking a mcdonalds straw. The only resistance was from the drip tip, and that was very little. Again Vapor is more than in any other device I have ever tried, flavor is great, Throat hit is smooth but present and potent. Total resistance was 0.6ohm's. I use MNKE batteries for the 20amp limit, this one is not for anything with low amp limit's and always make sure your Battery can handle a load befor testing it.

If you have any of these lying around, brush em' off and give them a little love. They are top notch with some modding!

 

[cornolio]

I think it's time to bring out my Phoenix

 

[kingdal]

How big of a drill bit did you use? Looks huge

 

[dhomes]

To this day my Phoenixes still give me the best flavor of all devices, bar none.

I mostly started and now use Genesis for convenience, the constant dripping is annoying

 

[Nurzrachit]

I use a small screwdriver. I do not know what the size of the shaft is. It is the same one I use to tighten the screws, like a jewelers screwdriver.

I think they do provide good flavor dHomes, seems better than Igo-L. I too prefer Genesis overall for convienence, but these are fun to play with cuz they are so cheap. Bang for buck, unbeatable.

 

[dhomes]

Nurz, even regardless of price, I still prefer the flavor intensity and clearness of a phoenix with SS Mesh than any Genesis I have been able to put together. The Genesis certainly are well above cartos and certainly a gazillion times more convenient than dripping, but for those special, more expensive liquids I keep my phoenix attys around

 

[Nurzrachit]

Nurz, even regardless of price, I still prefer the flavor intensity and clearness of a phoenix with SS Mesh than any Genesis I have been able to put together. The Genesis certainly are well above cartos and certainly a gazillion times more convenient than dripping, but for those special, more expensive liquids I keep my phoenix attys around

I may have to try it with a ss mesh then. do you use a vertical or horizontal coil?

 

[Faylool]

I am a proud owner of a Phoenix clone I reserve for vaping my WTA because it delivers the goods like nothing else I've tried and it's just a 3.00 ohm tiny skinny 8-9 coil wrap on some shreds of silica wick. Going across the middle up there from ost to post. When I drip there is a tiny inner shelf inside down near the coil which interrupts thr flow of juice some so somehow most the drips make it to my fairly spare wick cut off at each end of coil but touching a little on the inside wall. Somehow I never end up with a puddle of excess e liquid and I've checked multiple times. Well. I'm very new to RBA and that's further testimony to a good one IMO...plus it's the mini. And a clone. I'm feeling very good about it. Dry. Burned it lightly twice now...it doesn't need more than that and still measures 3.00 ohm after about 15 ml of WTA so far.

 

[Tarnacc]

Inspired by this thread I took another look at the phoenix. I tried a 5 wrap with 28 kanthal on a vertical mesh wick. that has always been my standard build but this time I used the 28 kanthal instead of my traditional 32 and put it on a mechanical. WOW! this deserves more experimentation!

The vape is pretty harsh which is not all bad as sometimes I like a really strong TH. I have 3 phoenix atomizers so at least one will encounter a drill bit tomorrow for some airflow modifications.

 

[Tarnacc]

Couldn't wait till morning so went to the garage and drilled out the air hole a bit. Man stock air hole is tiny! Smallest bit I have is 1/16 so that is what it got bored out to. I thought I would make opposing air holes since I am using a single vertical wick but the one hole widened to 1/16 was plenty and two of them would have been way too much.

end result I am pretty pleased with. It is a little airier then I generaly like but the 1/16 air hole smoothed out the vape and vapor is increased. TH is not as harsh but still plenty satisfying.

 

[Nurzrachit]

You will get used to the open draw. I take sharp fast tugs for a smooth hit. Long slow pulls for increased throat hit. Direct lung hits for massive vapor, but watch out for the nic buzz. I lowered mine to about 8 mg for strait lung draws.

 

[Nurzrachit]

I am gonna go 26g kanthal in the morning.

 

[dhomes]

vertical, unoxidized EXCEPT for the bottom most part, say, the bottom 1mm
ninjavapes.com has a pretty good tutorial on it

 

[dhomes]

Tarnacc, for Phoenix i go with 2/3 wraps of 32 kanthal. I leave the 28 for Genesis. I enjoy the less wraps for a more 'cigarette' like hit, more wraps with 28 tends to give the cigar-like vape 9which is fine, but I prefer the former)

 

[dhomes]

regarding the hole, i do prefer a tight draw so I leave the stock 1 ~ 1.5 mm as it came from the store (on my first one I did drilled a bigger one but airy draws are not my thing). it all comes down to personal preference off course

 

[Nurzrachit]

Anybody else love da bird.

 

[gdeal]

"Take the trash out...my azz. Time for a vape session." lol ..no...ROFL. That was great...Nice clouds.

 

[cornolio]

Drilled mine to1/16,5/4 wrap of 30g kanthal.3mm silica.blowing clouds but flavor is a bit off.any suggestions?

 

[Jimi D.]

I need to try that vertical setup on my Phoenix Xl. Just one coil though. Aint drillin no holes..

 

[Absintheur]

Phoenix clone and screwdriver...$3.50...

Phoenix rba - Clone dripping atty