Pipe that emits smoke while it is untouched?

[Scubabatdan]

Thanks for that info. I know I was getting some air loss, but really was not concerned about it since I was originally thinking that there was too much total air volume anyway. But, of course, my thinking can be wrong, and it often is. Real-life testing trumps theory. I will try again in the future with a fully sealed case and drill out the connector a bit. I may also try putting the tiny dime-sized fans in series, since that will double the pressure in the same way that stacking two batteries will double the voltage.

As the video below shows, I went a different direction today. I drilled about a 1/8" dia hole in the side of a phoenix atomizer. Then, strapped the fan to the side of it. Note that in later experiments, I blocked at least 3/4 of the fan's inlet in an effort to reduce air flow and get a denser smoke and it was still too much air flow.

For this particular project, I need to get it done soon, and so am not doing much more experimenting for now. But, one major issue with this device is that I tend to use up the smoke juice too fast. It is also difficult to know how much is currently needed for the amount of time you use it. Also, if you add too much it will leak into the fan. I may try to add some cotton around the perimeter to see if that provides more leak-free juice storage.

I really like the idea of a clear tank. But, the Genesis style one that I have is the only one that can tolerate having a hole in the side like the Phoenix atomizer. The Genesis one is prone to leaking a bit if upside-down. This theatrical fogger needs to tolerate being held in any orientation. The tanks that surround a cartomizer seems to leak when upright.

The videos were too large to upload with the 3meg limit, so I have linked them to dropbox. I have two different formats, since I am not sure what is popular nowadays.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/35836415/Tiny Smoke Machine-V1.3gp
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/35836415/Tiny Smoke Machine-V1.wmv

Joe Dunfee

Looks good, I would suggest using a xl carto as you can hold it in any orientaion. Then connect a flexible silicon tube to the atty connector and tape the other end to the air output of the fan, so all air is forced through the 1/16" silicon tube. That way you can mount it in a box mod for ease of transport and use.
Dan

 

[cadcoke5]

Looks good, I would suggest using a xl carto as you can hold it in any orientaion. Then connect a flexible silicon tube to the atty connector and tape the other end to the air output of the fan, so all air is forced through the 1/16" silicon tube. Dan

What is the specific reason you are recommending the XL Carto? I have tried the Kanger Dual Coil Cartomizers for 510, and found that the air resistance was a bit of an issue, as have all the atomizers and cartomizers I have tried.

But, I have yet to fully seal my device, which is being used in a show this weekend. So I will try again next week.

Do you think the XL Carto is less resistant to air flow?

Thanks,
Joe Dunfee

 

[Scubabatdan]

What is the specific reason you are recommending the XL Carto? I have tried the Kanger Dual Coil Cartomizers for 510, and found that the air resistance was a bit of an issue, as have all the atomizers and cartomizers I have tried.

But, I have yet to fully seal my device, which is being used in a show this weekend. So I will try again next week.

Do you think the XL Carto is less resistant to air flow?

Thanks,
Joe Dunfee

Not less resistant air flow, better wicking in any direction and would last longer on a constant burn that one that needs to be tipped.
Plus if you make a plastic funnel cap for the fan to 1/16" ID silicon tubing then you can direct a better force flow of air through the atty.
Dan

 

[MISTer E]

You need this in a cup & on call for a puppet show. I imagine a small puppet booth. A simple device like my forced MIST scientific testing apparatus could be used with some modifications.
A foot switch control (or assistant for the pump) & maybe a short bit of tubing from the mouthpiece to the bottom of the cup. I have not experimented with extension tubes, but vapor likely would not travel too far in one without reforming as condensation. A less powerful aquarium pump(which can be placed more remote) or an air leak in anys line would reduce pressure to make to vapor less geyser fountain-like & more foggy spillage-like than THESE vapor dragons

[video mashup shoot um up! shows a side tilted shot of upward rising smoke from 4 duds then a CE2 Vivi nova (a mod in testing) & finally my "Spin E" coil set up.]

Tape would serve better for your sealing purposes. I require quick atty changes.

I use a mec switch mod set in a mini vice. You with tight connections could mount/tape/hang a device under the cup somehow maybe

Ceramic heads wicked with pre conditioned cotton in tanks not too full & my "Spin E" coils do vapor quicker than pre conditioned mesh from a dead cold start in my experience. You likely already plan to try all of your attties however you do it to pick the one with just the right fog.

I B thee MIST man, but sometimes am Fog E

Hope that @ least helps your gears to crank some or gives a laugh. That mini blower in your vid is awesome, thanks for posting it.

 

[cadcoke5]

if you make a plastic funnel cap for the fan to 1/16" ID silicon tubing then you can direct a better force flow of air through the atty.
Dan

I had experimented with a portable fish aerator a few years back. I used a standard cigarette-like e-cig with the auto-trigger. In this case, the tube lead to a housing that the e-cig was in. It is not unlike what I had in the video in overall arrangmenet, except that in that case everything was well sealed. the idea is to force the air to go through the connector.

In your concept with the tubing, where is the tubing going? My phoenix currently has a hole cut in the side to allow the fan to blow there. I had thought that if I just epoxy a short tube that protrudes through the wall of the atomizer, then the atomizer can tip without leaking fluid into the fan, as long as there is very minimal fluid.

1/16" is pretty small tubing. Though, the volume of air is actually fairly small compared to what even the tiniest of fans put out.

Thanks for the ideas MISTer E. I will check into those things.

I have read that some smoke machines for magicians use a squeeze bulb. But, in that case, a single puff at a time is all they want. I did come across a more complex magician's version. It seems to use a small air pump. By the time I have all this worked out, then I probably am better off purchasing it from him. But where would the fun be in that!

Joe Dunfee