planning ahead, should I stockpile mods?

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I'm planning ahead for probable regulation here in the US and need advice. I'm looking to supply a couple of steady vapers for a couple of years. I have stockpiled nic base, clearomizers, glassomizers, heads and coils. But I have an obvious need for long-term batteries/mods. I currently use 350-650 mAh eGo/EVOD batteries and am happy with them. But I assume they'd lose power in long-term storage. Is a supply of mods that use easily-available batteries the way to go?

I like reliable and simple; I don't even need VV, let alone fancier features. I'd rather have a bunch of very basic mods than a few fancy mods. The fewer possible points of failure, the better. Appearance is not a big consideration, but small is my preference.

Suggestions for such a mod? Is my plan reasonable, or is there an alternative to stockpiling mods?
 

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My initial though is it will be very hard to put regulation on the devices themselves. Maybe on the "cigalikes" that have no other purpose….but would be really hard for anyone to regulate the batteries themselves. I believe the biggest risk will be to e-juice (specifically pre-mixed with nicotine, as flavoring and PG/VG are used in too many other things to regulate effectively).
 

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I agree nic is the obvious regulatory target, so that's what I stored first. Disposables are another easy target, but I don't use those.

Do you think eGo/EVOD type batteries, clearos/tanks, and so on will escape the regulators? I can see where it'd be difficult to control the supply, especially from China. I'd still like a few mods in reserve, and I'd welcome suggestions of which ones might fill my simple needs. I have zero knowledge or experience with them.
 

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    IMO living with our heads in the sand is not wise. Even local governments are trying to tax & regulate e-cigs. We even have local health departments trying to save the world from the dreaded e-cig.

    For that reason I think it's wise to become self relient, and invest in a couple of mechanical mods, RBA's that you can rebuild yourslf, and nic base.

    There is no need to worry about products like PG & VG, wick & wire, and common replaceable bateries & chargers. Mods, toppers, and nic base are the products to worry about.
     
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    I agree nic is the obvious regulatory target, so that's what I stored first. Disposables are another easy target, but I don't use those.

    Do you think eGo/EVOD type batteries, clearos/tanks, and so on will escape the regulators? I can see where it'd be difficult to control the supply, especially from China. I'd still like a few mods in reserve, and I'd welcome suggestions of which ones might fill my simple needs. I have zero knowledge or experience with them.
    They'll treat it like any other drug. They regulate the drug, not the delivery devices. There's no .... or syringe tax.
     

    twgbonehead

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    My initial though is it will be very hard to put regulation on the devices themselves. Maybe on the "cigalikes" that have no other purpose….but would be really hard for anyone to regulate the batteries themselves. I believe the biggest risk will be to e-juice (specifically pre-mixed with nicotine, as flavoring and PG/VG are used in too many other things to regulate effectively).

    The only concern I have with that is that EVERY tax proposal I have seen tries to include every single piece of the hardware as well. Mods and heads would be particularly at risk, but strictly according to the wording, flavorings, PG, VG, nichrome, silica wick and even cotton balls would be covered. In a practical sense, I think they might be successful taxing mods and heads. (And since a mod is the equivalent of 10,000 cartons of cigarettes, the tax might be rather high.....)
     

    HeadInClouds

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    I think it's wise to become self relient, and invest in a couple of mechanical mods, RBA's that you can rebuild yourslf, and nic base.

    There's the terminology I should have used. So I'm looking for simple, reliable, small mech mods and RBAs that work well together. Popular is a plus, because I'll need to know how to maintain them. I wouldn't be able to figure it out on my own, but my google-fu is strong.
     

    Blackboar

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    Like others have said, if they succeed, the danger would be regulating the nic in e-liquid. They would not be able to regulate batteries and mods because a mod can simply be a modified flashlight tube or a box that has mechanical connections for a battery. As for the batteries, those 18650's, 18500's, and 18350's were used for high end flashlights long before they were used in ecig mods.
     

    tj99959

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    There's the terminology I should have used. So I'm looking for simple, reliable, small mech mods and RBAs that work well together. Popular is a plus, because I'll need to know how to maintain them. I wouldn't be able to figure it out on my own, but my google-fu is strong.

    This is the best mechanical clone that I've tried. It's simple to set up, and trouble free. Best of all, it's perfect right out of the box (no need to modify anything)
    Caravela Clone by Hcigar - Brass - 101 Vape

    This is my choice for a RDA. The top cap screws on, so it won't come apart in your pocket. It's bottom air feed, so no side hole to leak.
    A7 Stainless Steel Rebuildable Atomizer

    Most folks like Wizzerd Lab for nic base.
    100mg/ml Nicotine Solution
     

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    I may be fooling myself but I'm pretty sure that if government were to turn off the nic, continued vaping would carry me through what's left of the cigarette addiction.

    Quitting cigarettes cold turkey and without any replacement has, in the past, left a huge gap between the two, that is smoking and not smoking. It's said that the actual nicotine addiction goes away in 3 days and it's all the other part of smoking that attracts us to want to return to cigarettes.

    Even vaping 0 nic affords satisfaction with hand to mouth, smoke (actually vapor) and what ever triggers the desire for a cigarette. I'd also like to believe we're not so addicted to believe that the world in going to end and that we'll all return to cigarettes the moment we can't have nicotine in our vapor.

    Let's have a little faith in ourselves, folks
     

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    Atleast in sweden it seems like they're not gonna ban nic free juices. So my advice would prolly be to stockpile nicotine so that you could dilute non nic juice in worst case scenario.

    Or start doing DIY juices. :)
    I doubt they'll be able to ban mech mods, it's just a pipe pretty much.

    EU wants to regulate the tank sizes to max 2ml tanks though.
    And highest juice count per buy would be 10ml -.-'
     
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