Plastic bottles of e-juice....BPA...thoughts/questions?

[texastumbleweed]

I just thought of something. You know how you are not supposed to drink from water bottles that are plastic (that have BPA in them, which is most of them), because....well, read the article, if you dont know:
Xeno Estrogens - The Dangers of Plastic - Bisphenol A - BPA - Plastic Free
SO!!!!!!!!!!! i was thinking, how bout all the ejuices i have ordered in the past few weeks, that have sat in my mailbox in triple digit Texas heat all day until i got off of work? now i am vaping those juices.....
thoughts?

 

[kellogg]

You know, I thought the same thing. We had a heat index of 112 the other day. Luckily, I hadn't ordered anything.

I ordered from vapor station and they came in glass bottles. That doesn't mean the liquid didn't get hot but at least it wasn't in a plastic bottle. I have decided to wait another month before ordering more liquid.

Speaking of plastic bottles - do people save them when they are empty to put other juice in them?

 

[texastumbleweed]

which companies sell their ejuices in glass bottles?

 

[lostboy]

I know of 2. Halo cigs and LiquidXpress if order 30ml.

 

[Cyia]

I just thought of something. You know how you are not supposed to drink from water bottles that are plastic (that have BPA in them, which is most of them), because....well, read the article, if you dont know:
Xeno Estrogens - The Dangers of Plastic - Bisphenol A - BPA - Plastic Free
SO!!!!!!!!!!! i was thinking, how bout all the ejuices i have ordered in the past few weeks, that have sat in my mailbox in triple digit Texas heat all day until i got off of work? now i am vaping those juices.....
thoughts?

woudn't the heat though of the atomizer get hot enough to kill anything that would be harmful? I would think as hot as the atty got it would kill whatever might be potentially harmful to you if there was anything.

 

[texastumbleweed]

i dont know. only a scientist would be able to answer that question definitively.

woudn't the heat though of the atomizer get hot enough to kill anything that would be harmful? I would think as hot as the atty got it would kill whatever might be potentially harmful to you if there was anything.

 

[Cyia]

i dont know. only a scientist would be able to answer that question definitively.

guess could always google heating temperatures of how hot something has to be to kill 99.9% of harmful bacteria and such. And if it's below 350 then your atty should kill it. since attys can reach that hot in a matter of less than a minute from what i understand

 

[breaktru]

I just thought of something. You know how you are not supposed to drink from water bottles that are plastic (that have BPA in them, which is most of them), because....well, read the article, if you dont know:
Xeno Estrogens - The Dangers of Plastic - Bisphenol A - BPA - Plastic Free
SO!!!!!!!!!!! i was thinking, how bout all the ejuices i have ordered in the past few weeks, that have sat in my mailbox in triple digit Texas heat all day until i got off of work? now i am vaping those juices.....
thoughts?

texastumbleweed most likely everything we buy regarding ecigs are made in China. The plastic bottles are probably not safe as well as the carts, atty's etc..... Probaby some asbestos in there too

 

[CJsKee]

You all need to remember to do your research -- and to not believe everything you hear. Here is a link to an article by Dr. Elizabeth Whelan (who, by the way, supports our electronic cigarettes) regarding BPA: The Harvard School of (Unscientific) Public Health (Activism) > Facts & Fears > ACSH

 

[vincentk18]

212 Degrees Fahrenheit is the temperature at which no common bacterium can survive, and 250 degrees Fahrenheit is the industry-standard temperature for sterilization.

If your atty reaches temps of 250+ degrees, you are safe from all bacteria except for "thermophiles", but luckily for you, they are mostly found in volcanos/volcanic vents and not plastic

 

[TrashcanCandy]

I'm not trying to be mean or a smartass or anything, but people should look things up before commenting if they don't know what those things are.
Why is everyone talking about temperatures that kill bacteria?
From the above-mentioned article by Dr. Elizabeth Whelan: "BPA...is an industrial chemical (used for more than fifty years) that serves as a raw material in the manufacture of polycarbonate plastics."
Temperature needed to kill bacteria has no relevance to the topic.

 

[TrashcanCandy]

which companies sell their ejuices in glass bottles?

I haven't bought many juices, but I know Totally Wicked's Decadent Vapours come in glass bottles.

 

[brandon555]

I'm not trying to be mean or a smartass or anything, but people should look things up before commenting if they don't know what those things are.
Why is everyone talking about temperatures that kill bacteria?
From the above-mentioned article by Dr. Elizabeth Whelan: "BPA...is an industrial chemical (used for more than fifty years) that serves as a raw material in the manufacture of polycarbonate plastics."
Temperature needed to kill bacteria has no relevance to the topic.

I was thinking that too...

Sheeshhhh......

 

[OldDragon]

Agreed, does not affect possible bugs in the juice. But it could affect some of the chemicals leaching out of the plastic. While I'm not going to worry about it - the bottles are small and we don't drink the juice.

 

[MegaWaterpipe]

You all need to remember to do your research -- and to not believe everything you hear. Here is a link to an article by Dr. Elizabeth Whelan (who, by the way, supports our electronic cigarettes) regarding BPA: The Harvard School of (Unscientific) Public Health (Activism) > Facts & Fears > ACSH

While Dr. Whelan is friendly to e-cigs, she is also known for her friendliness to the plastic industries. I would not disregard the possible harm of BPA just because of her article. To be on the safe side, use glass bottles or plastic bottles that's BPA and PVC free (Intellicig's Ecopure, for example). It's frustrating, though, most of the e-juice vendors, domestic or foreign, use unidentified plastic bottles.

 

[HzG8rGrl]

Plastic Bottles from bottles.us - Buy by the Case Wholesale - bottles.us has Plastic Bottles, Plastic Jars and Closures.

At the bottom of the page is a quick write up on different plastic bottles-no mention of the BPA bottles. For what it's worth and/or offers.

 

[MegaWaterpipe]

I don't see any bottles there used polycarbonate (PC) plastic, which are made from BPA. But PC bottles are (or used to be) very common. See the link for example. Custom Polycarbonate Sports Bottles, Promotional Polycarb Sports Bottles
HDPE, LDPE, PP and PET are considered BPA free. The point is, if it's not identified on the bottoms of the bottles, it's really hard to tell. The Ecopure bottles have either HDPE or PP on the bottoms of the bottles. So we know those are safe from BPA.

 

[TeeFour]

We're exposed to enough estrogen-analog plasticizers that any tiny potential amount in our ejuice is not worth concerning yourself over. The BP of bpa is 220C, so theoretically it would vaporize with the PG. If you're really all that concerned then order from Johnson Creek. Great juices, and they all come in glass bottles.

 

[ropetrick]

Aren't polycarbonate bottles typically very hard, durable plastic bottles? Most of the plastic juice bottles I've encountered are extremely pliable, and it seems unlikely to me that those would be PC plastics. I haven't looked yet to see if the bottles are marked with a 7 or otherwise.

 

[JWebb]

Ok, so one more thing to worry about? Glass bottles hould solve the issue. Don't forget about all the toxins that are in ambient air you are breathing anyway from cars. trucks factories. If it's not the bottles or BPA, it will be somehting else you have little to no control over. All I need is the FDA or EPA coming out and banning e-liquid for this reason.