Question about polycarbonate clearomizers

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zoiDman

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Last time I even looked into it, it was still a BPA polymer.. That was a while ago, obviously, but do you have access to the information regarding that, to clarify that it is fully inert?

It very well could be.

It took the FDA over 10 Years to get Baby Bottles BPA free. At that rate, Soda cans should be BPA Free around 2022.

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Given the heat that is generated within a clearo or tank, this would seem to be a valid concern. It seems testing would be appropriate - anybody know if there is any data out there yet using liquids with nic?

Well, the plastic shouldn't be getting hot. If you're actually melting it (with the coil) that's a real problem.
 

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Heat has nothing to do with polycarbonate breakdown, at least not with our juice attachments. It is a chemical reaction between molecules in the polycarbonate and certain flavor extracts reacting to create bonds with each other. As more molecules are changed in the polycarbonate, the faster the breakdown of the plastic.

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Excellent find. Their key message was "In 2011, the results of three newly published studies reinforced support for the consensus that current levels of exposure to BPA through food and beverage packaging do not pose a health risk to the general population."

I have seen similar language. This is saying that BPA from food safe containers, like Soda cans, or other containers of actual food, are not likely to create enough leaching to go over the levels which are thought to be safe. Fine.

The difference of course, is Soda is cold, it is of known contents. But for some applications, its used. For example open up a can of pineapples, inside you find galvanized steel. There is a reason for that. Also foods and soda are not cooked in BPA.

With a clearomizer, you have fluids of various types. The "tank crackers" chew up polycarbonate tanks, by dissolving them, not shattering them. You are heating the fluid, and the tank with a heating element inside of the tank.

So you have an unknown. I looked at my destroyed clearomzier, from the Double Apple, it was melted up in less than 20 minutes, before I removed the fluid. There is nothing in the world of food that even comes close to that, as far as stress testing, so while the Cola-Cola studies are good for them, they are not applicable for Vape
 

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I have found some more information, all bringing me to the conclusion, that consumers should not buy anything that is not compatible with E-juice. The alternative types of materials, primarily polypropylene are the same cost of raw and manufacturing needs. Just because they are selling square pegs, does not mean that a round one is not required for the application.

If consumers are avoiding certain materials CHOSEN by the manufacturers, and Buying others, the end result will be a marketplace solution.

Its a mechanical type solution, as I see it. Nylon gears in some things work great, low cost, decent longevity, you can make cheap analog electric clocks for example. But you don't want Nylon gears under load, where they can shear off if too much force occurs. A motorcycle transmission for example. Form AND materials follow function.
 
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