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My suggestion is to try out a Kanger Aerrotank Mega with either the .8ohm or 1ohm coils. I was using a ce4 and an ego battery when I first started, then picked up a mechanical mod and some older tanks, then into RBAs, and a couple KFL clones which I could never get right (always leaked/flooded), and now that I'm using the Aerotank Mega I'm in love again.

I second the idea but she doesn't have anything that would power the heads at that resistance. She is using MVPs so be sure to get the heads that are at least 1.4 or so.
 

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If you are nervous about the coil building part, I highly suggest one of these coil jigs. I've been building coils for a while, and am very efficient in doing so, but this just makes things so easy its stupid. I would imagine it would be amazing for a beginner, it certainly would have helped me a lot when I was new with rebuilding.

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Best devices for flavor I'd say would be a kayfun. You won't have to invest in a new mod or anything and can get them relatively cheap. Now I do agree the REO's are great mods and have great potential, but the price for them is what puts a lot of people off. Not many people want to drop $120+ for a mod by itself. If you're able to listen to the others and go with an REO if you feel comfortable with it. If not I'd recommend a kayfun, if you don't want to do RBA's then go with the Nautilus or Aerotank mega.
 

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If you are nervous about the coil building part, I highly suggest one of these coil jigs. I've been building coils for a while, and am very efficient in doing so, but this just makes things so easy its stupid. I would imagine it would be amazing for a beginner, it certainly would have helped me a lot when I was new with rebuilding.

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That thing looks pretty neat. Don't really need one but, I might buy one anyway just to check it out.

Does the anchoring knob get in the way of the wire while wrapping?
 

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I wish had advice like this when I was struggling with a bad vape. I wish someone would have told me get REO and made me listen.

It would have saved me thousands of dollars spent on 3 Provari's, a new hana V3, 2 KFL's, 25 iBtanked tanks and hundreds of cartos, 12 PT2's, 10 PT2 minis, a 134, 2 mvp's, 2 iTaste vv's and the list goes on and on.

Not only was I struggling with trying to quite analogs and was on the edge. I would get so frustrated with every day maintenance because of a tank leak, or it flooded then it leaked. Then came along slushy cartos and juice in the mouth, dry hits. Do I buy 1, 2, 3 hole or slotted cartos? I carried a backpack to work with me every day just to rebuild, re-wick, take apart, clean up, fill-up, special tips, syringes, tweezers, nail clippers.

Now every morning I grab a REO put in a fresh battery and out the door I go. It is a clean hassle free vape and the flavor is always consistent time after time.

I am very biased only because I have been very frustrated. I am sure I made mistakes or could have done something better but life is complicated enough without spending 3 hours a day trying to get 1 hour of good vape time. If it is at all possible give the REO a try. If you are not happy with it let me know. I can always add another one to the rotation.
 

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I second the idea but she doesn't have anything that would power the heads at that resistance. She is using MVPs so be sure to get the heads that are at least 1.4 or so.

I find my MVP to be a little more forgiving than my Provari. I build my coils to 1.2ohm and have no problems on either. As long as I'm over 1.0ohm the MVP does just fine. I do prefer lower volts with a lower resistance coil - juice dependant- taste is subjective :) - and I won't drain my batteries as fast.

As always YMMV :)


I read somewhere here someone suggesting jumping right into building coils less than 1ohm - in that case I totally agree. I see all over the boards someone looking to *improve* their vape experience and being told "get this mod" "build this coil on this RTA" , "if you don't drip you aren't Vaping". ... There really isn't just one path... There are monetary concerns, the learning curve and the individual's preference. The best vape to me isn't going to be the best vape to you...

I've been Vaping for almost six years and I've been through the progression and evolution - I still think " simple" will keep someone Vaping and off the frustration/confusion train.

Just my thoughts :)


 

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That thing looks pretty neat. Don't really need one but, I might buy one anyway just to check it out.

Does the anchoring knob get in the way of the wire while wrapping?

It looks like it would but it is really easy to get around, and doesn't cause any issues.
 

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I've been Vaping for almost six years and I've been through the progression and evolution - I still think " simple" will keep someone Vaping and off the frustration/confusion train.

Just my thoughts :)



Exactly. That's why I'm so gospely about the REO. It has immediately made vaping simple, as simple as rolling my cigarettes was more or less.
 

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I find my MVP to be a little more forgiving than my Provari. I build my coils to 1.2ohm and have no problems on either. As long as I'm over 1.0ohm the MVP does just fine. I do prefer lower volts with a lower resistance coil - juice dependant- taste is subjective :) - and I won't drain my batteries as fast.

As always YMMV :)


I read somewhere here someone suggesting jumping right into building coils less than 1ohm - in that case I totally agree. I see all over the boards someone looking to *improve* their vape experience and being told "get this mod" "build this coil on this RTA" , "if you don't drip you aren't Vaping". ... There really isn't just one path... There are monetary concerns, the learning curve and the individual's preference. The best vape to me isn't going to be the best vape to you...

I've been Vaping for almost six years and I've been through the progression and evolution - I still think " simple" will keep someone Vaping and off the frustration/confusion train.

Just my thoughts :)



Oh most certainly; I'm a genesis guy but that does not mean everyone should use them or even try them for that matter. They aren't easy to set up well, and unless you have a knack for tinkering they just aren't worth the time it takes to get them to perform exactly how you want them to.

In any case do think the coil building skill is a nice skill to have. If you use it to rebuild your clearomizers coil head or use the skill to rock a couple parallel Clapton coils on a $200 dripper it doesn't really matter, what matters is the pride you get in knowing your mind did some work in making that coil, it makes every vape a bit more personal.

Plus, it's fun. Mind you I like to make chain mail from 304 mig wire and I make my own rings, so my idea of fun might not match up to that of others.

Maurice
 

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While I have not used a REO I have several RDAs and the flavor is great so having a REO to eliminate the hassle of dripping seems like a great choice. I would like to add my opinion in defense of moving to a KFL+ or Russian both of which can be purchased on the Classifieds (authentic) for the price of the clones. While there are good clones and bad the purchase is hit or miss so getting one from a reputable seller on here is a good choice. They are easy to build and totally transportable as well. In the journey chances are if you ultimately end up with a REO you will still always find a use for your KFL as well. It also means you can use your MVP right now and only need to grab the KFL, wire and cotton. Finally as per the suggestions of getting an IGO RDA that is a good idea because they can be purchased everywhere for about $10 to learn coil building and to test flavors in the future it is a great investment. It is what I learned on and I still have it along with my 8 KFL and Russians.
No matter what all the suggestions along these lines are great and you really will love using any of them. The learning curve for coil building is really short and with all the good people on here to help you it will be painless and change your vaping world! Good luck
PS just occurred to me I have a Trident Clone that is as good as an IGO the cap is a little tight but if you send me your address I would be happy to send it to you no charge along with some kanthal and cotton so you can take it to that class and learn to build on it.
 
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While I have not used a REO I have several RDAs and the flavor is great so having a REO to eliminate the hassle of dripping seems like a great choice. I would like to add my opinion in defense of moving to a KFL+ or Russian both of which can be purchased on the Classifieds (authentic) for the price of the clones. While there are good clones and bad the purchase is hit or miss so getting one from a reputable seller on here is a good choice. They are easy to build and totally transportable as well. In the journey chances are if you ultimately end up with a REO you will still always find a use for your KFL as well. It also means you can use your MVP right now and only need to grab the KFL, wire and cotton. Finally as per the suggestions of getting an IGO RDA that is a good idea because they can be purchased everywhere for about $10 to learn coil building and to test flavors in the future it is a great investment. It is what I learned on and I still have it along with my 8 KFL and Russians.
No matter what all the suggestions along these lines are great and you really will love using any of them. The learning curve for coil building is really short and with all the good people on here to help you it will be painless and change your vaping world! Good luck

You know, I bet most of us would agree that coil building is maybe even more important in and of itself than whatever device she gets. I do now that I really think about it. Trying the Protank over the iClear didn't totally brighten my vaping world - but trying a rebuilt Protank with a cotton wick did! :)
 

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You know, I bet most of us would agree that coil building is maybe even more important in and of itself than whatever device she gets. I do now that I really think about it. Trying the Protank over the iClear didn't totally brighten my vaping world - but trying a rebuilt Protank with a cotton wick did! :)
Very true! in my edited post I offered a trident for free and would gladly send a fresh coil at whatever ohm you would like with organic cotton boiled in distilled water so you can see the benefits of what "the sloth" is saying
 

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Before I bought a mech I went to two different shops to get a dripper for my zmax. I was told in both shops I couldn't use a RDA on it because I would "Blow myself up". So I bought the mech and atty. I liked the flavor but not the massive vapor. I like vapor but SBJ I was drowning in it. Plus it isn't practical for my long commute. I was very nervous using it as well. The whole idea of blowing myself up was in my head, it wouldn't always fire, and I zapped my finger once on it. Fast forward to the REO. I'm not sure if it's because it feels better in my hand or because I understand mechs better or what but it feels "safer". I never intended to sub-ohm but lately I've been building at 0.8 ohms and it's nice. Really nice.

I like the nautilus tank quite a bit however I must've bought a bad batch of coils, the juice keeps tasting burnt at a low voltage. I need to probably buy a new batch and test them out again. I never have that problem with the REO. Flavor is always spot on and I rarely get a dry hit. Sometimes I get over zealous with the squonking and dribble a little bit out of the air hole. That's pretty much the worst thing that ever happens. Except my Band Camp seems to be disappearing at an alarmingly fast rate because it tastes so good in the REO!!
 

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I absolutely knew that was going to be one suggestion, and to be honest...the thought of a REO makes me nervous. I don't know why. I've never seen one in person, I'm not sure about the whole squonking thing...

I know you're probably right. If I did decide to do that, I'd have to save up money for sure. The local B&M near me is doing a free coil building class on Saturday and I'm thinking about going. I have never built my own coils before (obviously) but maybe it's something I should learn to do...

I went from NO NEVER GONNA GET REO/REBUILD to squonking in a very short time. A Reo with a reomizer 2 i simple to build on and pretty idiot-proof cuz it has ceramic floor. I have bad hands and I manage it easily. I love my Reo mini LP.

That being said, even an upgrade of tank to something like a Nautilus or tanked cartomizer like an IBTanked will boost flavor delivery quite a bit. I didnt care for the iClear 30, but the iClear 30s is better IMO.

But still, for WHAMFLAVOR, Reo.
 

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the REO is really nice. without a doubt. lots of flavor. I would say it is probably the end of the way for most vapors. because of what it does. the flavor. the richness.
there is a learning curve there. honestly tho, the new nautilus mini comes with an amazing coil. it is a BVC coil. and the flavor off of it is comparable to the REO it may not be as good, but it is right up there. I have been running my Provari's at 5 volts with no problems. and it is a rich thick wet vapor. my wife has to. and she has an MVP with a nautilus mini on it. running at about 12-13 watts with no problems. she is loving it. talking about spending 30$ to satisfy the vape needs right now. I am not knocking the REO the REO is the upgraded version of this. but you can get there a lot faster with a nautilus mini, or a nautilus with the new BVC coil. hope you go to that class, and learn some coil skills. it is needed. in general. and it is a great feeling to see everyone in here offering help and assistance. this is why I love this place. truly amazing
 

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*Sigh*

OK, I've been thinking this way for a few days, so I decided to come to The Family for some help/advice.

I am just not happy or satisfied with my vaping lately. A few of my thoughts:

1. I'm vaping about twice as much as I normally do. I use an MVP 2 with an iClear 30. I used to vape 3 ml a day (in other words, a whole tank) and now I'm vaping 6 ml a day. It just doesn't seem like I get enough nic/flavor...or something. I usually hover right around 7.0 watts to 8.0 watts.

2. I have a lot of different types of juices I'm using, and I try to rotate them so that I'm hitting different taste buds. These are the juices I have:
Gravity (just finished this morning)
Home Slice (vaping now)
CoolCumber Mint
Frenilla
CB
CLS
B Puddin
Grap3 Ap3
Band Camp
Doodle

...all in 12mg. I've been using 12mg for a few months now, and I lowered it down to 12mg because my body told me to. 18mg was just a little too much after a while.

Vapers tongue really isn't an issue because I can taste everything just fine. Maybe I need some combination suggestions for some new yumminess? I just don't know. I only know that it's frustrating to not be satisfied. I'm hoping to place an order for some new stuff tomorrow, and maybe another order on Tuesday once we see what the new release is.

Thanks in advance for your help!

It looks like you're at a cross-roads nc. A good one. Problem is you hit Grand Central Station and everyone knows what train they came in on, just not necessarily the one you need to ride out on. Lot's of good advice though.

I guess I kinda need your advice. You see I know along with many others here how to perfect a Kanthal coil for vaping. Two threads on ECF talk about it but probably 99% of vapers don't even know about this. And vaping to my mind is more like cooking than any other human pastime. To accomplish this you just need to have the right implements and technique. Can't live off McDonuts for ever. You'll need to take charge of your own vaping experience to enjoy your growing preference for juice selections.


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So now, how do we get you and others the perfect coil to explore that? BTW, the above took literally seconds to produce. Much of what you will be taught in a rebuilding class is not needed to get you that great vape, like torching wire. And cooking is about efficiency, economy. But I'd like you to be the judge.

Do me a favor, before you take that class this weekend. Try lookin' over these two threads and see if they give you any insights as you consider the techniques you encounter in that workshop. I'd be curious to know what you think.

Here's the links…

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/463771-protank-cotton-rebuild-way-i-do.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clearomizers/486794-protank-microcoil-discussion.html

And if you have any question, just tap me on the shoulder on either of the two.

Good luck, really.

:)
 
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I feel something simple, and cheap, like one of the new nautilus minis would be an appropriate step. If you want to try dripping you can pick up a igo-w for around ten dollars on some sites. You don't have to pony $200 or more to get decent flavor.

I don't understand all the hype around the reos. They appear to be pretty limited imho. While they seem like great little devices, especially for people who can't be bothered to take a cap off and drip, they are rather limited as to which atomizers you can use. I love variety. I love innovation. I've got my sights set on a plumeveil, if and when the next batch hits the market. So please, tell me why all the reo trumpeting? Seriously, sell me on this product. The fervor reminds me of the provari fanatics lol. I know this is sacrilege to some of you, and please keep in mind that I'm asking to be converted. I should have probably just started a thread..lol.

I'm the kind of person that gets no pleasure out of dripping. I do enjoy the clouds but the flavor is very much like my Vapeonly so I keep it just to try out new juices. But that's me, and I know tons of people that enjoy Reos. But what if she does't? or finds coil making too troublesome? Spending 15 bucks in a dripping RBA could save hundreds in the end.
 

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I went from NO NEVER GONNA GET REO/REBUILD to squonking in a very short time. A Reo with a reomizer 2 i simple to build on and pretty idiot-proof cuz it has ceramic floor. I have bad hands and I manage it easily. I love my Reo mini LP.

That being said, even an upgrade of tank to something like a Nautilus or tanked cartomizer like an IBTanked will boost flavor delivery quite a bit. I didnt care for the iClear 30, but the iClear 30s is better IMO.

But still, for WHAMFLAVOR, Reo.

Maybe, some day when I'm filthy rich I'll get my Reo to use with cartomizers or HH .357s. Meanwhile it's disposables for me.
 

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I'm the kind of person that gets no pleasure out of dripping. I do enjoy the clouds but the flavor is very much like my Vapeonly so I keep it just to try out new juices. But that's me, and I know tons of people that enjoy Reos. But what if she does't? or finds coil making too troublesome? Spending 15 bucks in a dripping RBA could save hundreds in the end.

then one of us will take it off her hands.

and she's more likely to find coil making too troublesome on a Protank.

HOWEVER I never realized, since i never dripped before Gothics the REO came into my life :hubba:, i had no idea you could get a dripper for as low as $10 or $15. even though I'm all about the REO, since she's never rebuilt, I'd actually recommend going that route maybe. it would be something she could keep for sampling flavors even when she moves onto something else for her primary device

FYI tho - to me and i think a lot of people, the dripping aspect of the REO isn't what I care about (though I do get it). it's ease of use, convenience, perfect hits every single time.

But highly recommending the OP doesn't do what I did, and get gung ho about a cheap $15 device (cough protank cough) and buy a bunch of them like I did. now I wish I only had one Protank instead of several. those other $15s added up and could have gone towards juice.
 
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