Please help ! Was just about to order v2 and then I found this forum

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slyvest

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Also what are the benefits of a larger unit and what does everyone recommend. I have found a few that look like cigar's but will that be suffice as a larger unit or would something else be better? Right now I have $100 to spend I would love to be able to get both kits but I don't think my budget will cover both. I understand most outgrow mini's but I need it for a specific purpose although I appreciate everyone trying to save me a few $. Ladypixel how large is the ego/riva in comparison to an analog length wise?
 
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Ok, another pic with some of the larger stuff:

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1. A Zippo
2. He who must not be named
3. A cigarillo (a real cigar)
4. KR808D-1
5. Riva 700 mAh
6. Some sharpie thingy
7. A very nice Balmoral Corona Dominican Selection (a real cigar)
8. 1000 mAh eGo with LR dual coil mega cartomizer
9. Lavatube with 5 ml tank.

Btw the 510 is not in this pic, but it's the same size as the cigarillo.
 
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A lifetime warranty on a cigarette-look-alike is nothing but a marketing gimmick. I'll make a friendly wager with you right now. Within a few months, you won't care about it looking like a cigarette. You won't care about a LED at the tip. You won't care about a manual battery and you almost certainly won't care that your e-juice tries to imitate the cigarettes you used to smoke. Given all that, what use is a lifetime warranty, unless it's transferable to whoever you decide to give your starter e-cig to?

The important thing is to just start. But if you find it unsatisfying or are having a hard time getting off those last few analogs, just remember. Nearly all of us started with the exact same laundry-list as you outlined. Nearly all of us abandoned it fairly soon. I'd be surprised if V2 EVER had a warranty return after the first year because 99.9% of their customers had moved on to a proper PV by then..

That said, if you simply MUST have a look-alike, there are better ones out there. I'd recommend a 510 based Joye or Joye clone. You will have much more flexibility in terms of cheap, readily available cartos and attys with it and you can try a manual battery when you get sick of the shorts and false triggering that a lot of automatics have.

Lol. You've never owned an 808 by the sounds of it.
 

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Ok so I have decided to go with the volt after many recomendations and various good reviews hope I will be happy. Just thought I would let everyone know and say thank you again for everyone's help and opinion's. Now to find flaovor's.
Good choice. I love my volt even though I already moved up to a kgo, I still take my volt everywhere. I definitely think you will be more than happy with it!!
 

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After 18 years of smoking my wife and I decided to "quit" analogs about three weeks ago. We decided to give V2 a try with their ultimate kit. (3 batts, PCC, reg case, car charger, house charger, notebook cig, and 25 carts) It's a nice starter kit for sure, but we rushed into the decision and after some more research I've found there are many other quality PVs that are easier on the wallet. Oh well!

It's been a good road so far for me since I was a PAD or more smoker and by using the V2 kit am now down to maybe 1-2 analogs a day. The most frustrating part is how often you have to recharge the batteries on them. I also find myself topping off the carts 5-7 times per day. (Equal to a pack my rear!)

I really thought that I wanted a cig-lookalike to help me quit, but I've found in the past three weeks that my attitude has changed completely. Originally I thought some vapers were crazy for having a box, tube, or some other device to get their nic fix from. But honestly I just put my order in for a TOX Cannon and can't wait for it to arrive.

I'm sure that the Volt will do what you need it to and help you get off of analogs.

Best of luck to you and haping vaping,

Chris
 

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I was just about to order from v2 and I found this forum and am reading that it may not be the best idea. This will be my first e cig and I am looking to get what I think is an kr808. I want a normal cigarette size realistic looking e cig that is refillable preferably with a red led. Also I would like it to be automatic if available. I also looked at the vapornine but couldnt find much info how is there e cig. Does anyone have alternatives or suggestions of something better and cheaper that fits what I am looking for? I thought v2 was a good choice because of all the great reviews and lifetime warranty but if there is a better option I will gladly go for it. Thanks.

Congratulations on skipping the V2. 99% of those reviews are put up by people who are making commissions from their referrals. Notice those discount codes? They're affiliate codes. V2 is the Amway of the ecig world. One person recruiting another to recruit another, etc, etc, etc. The lifetime warranty is 100% marketing gimmick and a way to keep you hooked on buying their cartomizers and their juice. Read the terms and you'l see why. Actually, don't bother. Plus, no battery can, or should, last forever. Like 95% of us, you'll move on past it long before any lifetime warrany makes sense.

But, you're making all the typical newbie mistakes that nearly all of us made, and that 95% of us wish we hadn't. We ALL have a cigarette look-alike with a LED at the tip sitting around getting no use. Unless, of course, we've given it away or trashcanned it by now. Here's your chance to be in that lucky minority that didn't waste our time and money trying to look like we're smoking when we were trying to quit smoking. You won't be a smoker anymore. Why do you want to look like one?

Yes, there are FAR better options and FAR FAR FAR FAR better values out there than the V2, or any cig. look-alike for that matter. I always try to warn people and steer them here when I see those stupid V2 commercials disguised as reviews on Youtube, Vapor Academy being the prime offender and the biggest liar of the bunch.

Do yourself a favor. Do some reseach here. Shed your feeling that you need an automatic battery. Unless you spend all day rock climbing and smoking at the same time, you don't.

Look at the eGo, the Riva, the E-Power or something similar. They're barely larger than a small cigar and will give you the power and reliability that NO cigarette look-alike can match. This alone can mean the difference between sticking with vaping or going back to analogs. If you want a light, some of them have a light that is a battery level indicator. At least get a light that performs a function. All of the eGo, kGo, Riva, Firefly, E-Power type ecigs can be had in a complete starter kit for less than 1/2 of what a V2 starter kit will set you back.

Hear me now. Believe me later. Shed your desire for something that looks like an analog and save tons of money, time and, possibly, your health.
 

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I agree with most of the responses. I started with a Blu and within a week was sick of it. Yes it is small, resembles an analog,
tasted like crap, and lasted less than 2 cigs. I went to an Ego 650 passthrough and Boge 2 ohm catos and have been in vapers heaven ever since. Of course the Blu planted the seed.... The Ego has grown the crop, and the Provari now runs the farm!
It's your choice and do as you wish, the others and myself are just trying to help you get the best from your vaping experience. Whatever gets you off analogs is the deal. You can progress later if you wish.

On another note, if you choose an analog-like device, it is harder to vape in places you can't smoke. People see a cigarette and a glow on the end they think smoking. I get a few funny looks with my provari, but I get a lot more "what in the h#ll is that?" And a lot of way to go / good job comments after a little explanation..

That is a very good point. I have used my Baby Bullet in restaurants and places where I'd never get away with using something that looks like a cigarette. If someone is rude, accuses me of smoking based on what they see coming from my mouth, and is uninterested in learning something, I tell them it's a medical device prescribed by my doctor and none of their business. I usually don't have to go that far.

If someone has incorrect preconceptions about ecigs and they see you with what they recognize as one, they'll keep their wrong ideas. If they see you with something like an eGo or another mod, they're more liable to ask about it and that's your opportunity to set them straight.

Also, with an analog lookalike, you're going to have smokers asking to bum a cigarette or a light, and you'll get those dirty looks from all the anti-smoking nazis out there.
 

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Before you buy any "looks like a cigarette" system, ask yourself one question:

Do I want to be tethered to a charger?

Ignore what the advertising says, these batteries last about an hour or two at the most, and you can't get the good heat/flavor of LR attys.

I don't recommend anything below 600mah. Here's a good starter battery system, dirt cheap:

eGo 510 650mAh USB Passthrough Battery

The charging unit is built into the base. Get some LR 510 cartos and you are set for hardware for a long time.
 

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Remember though! Because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD when it comes to vaping. Vaping like a real Mc....... in public places where people don't want you to only gives all of us a bad name.

Who is "people"? Some random idiot who complains? Or, the proprietor or manager of a restaurant or other public accommodation? Makes a big difference. If you insist on acting like you're smoking, the public will continue to equate ecigs with smoking. I've had many instances where some blue-hair .....es to me about vaping somewhere. 100% of the time, it's out of sheer ignorance and my acquiescence to their ignorant demands is doing the vaping community no favors. Rather it's just reinforcing their mis-perceptions. OTOH, I have yet to be prohibited from vaping somewhere after a 5 minute talk to a manager or owner.

THAT's the way to make vaping acceptable. Education. Not slinking around like you're doing something wrong. Not hiding. Not going outside and hanging out in the alley with the smokers. Not hiding it and not stuffing it away because some yahoo who knows exactly 0 about what vaping is looked at you askew or declared that you're smoking where you shouldn't be. Who gives them that right? They are not offended by what you're doing. They are offended by what they WRONGLY THINK you're doing. You have no obligation to cower to their misguided demands.

Would you leave a restaurant at the demand of some customer who accused you of being barefoot, if you were wearing transparent plastic shoes? What is the difference? Unless you are in a jurisdiction where vaping is covered under some indoor air act, there is no difference.

If you're not good at explaining things, hand them a card from CASAA, with a concise explanation of what ecigs are on the back. I keep a few in my wallet all the time.

This idea that vapers shouldn't vape in public falls right into the hands of ignorant people who advocate including ecigs in indoor smoking bans. The results are going on right before your eyes as state after state prohibits indoor vaping. People who hide their vaping have only themselves to blame for this. Thanks, you bunch of jellyfish.
 
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As a long time 808 user I can't understand what is so bad about an auto batt? Sure manuals have a couple of small advantages but nothing to make a big song and dance about. ...

Why do virtually no top-shelf mods (at least that I'm aware of) come with an automatic battery? Being able to control the length of a draw is not a small advantage. Never worrying about accidental activation from noise or vibration is a significant advantage, although some autos have mitigated that problem somewhat.

I think the real question is, are there any disadvantages to a manual battery. Unless you're a tightrope walker, spend your day clinging to an antenna tower or enjoy vaping while you perform open-heart surgery, I can't think of any.

Auto batteries exist only on analog looking PV's, because they are disposable. When you graduate past that analog looking thing, like nearly everyone does, you're going to have a manual battery anyway. Might as well be used to it.

Look at who is advocating auto batts and analog lookalikes.
With very few exceptions, they all fit one or more of the following:

1. They work on antenna towers.
2. They hold the view that you should just get something, anything to get off analogs, even though they know better personally and would never buy another auto/analog lookalike.
3. They have never gotten around to trying or using anything else.
4. They are relative, or even complete, newbies.
5. They were moderate smokers who smoked a 1/2PAD or less.

Nobody with any vaping experience is recommending an analog look-alike based on its better performance or its better "bang-for-the-buck".

You should ask yourself; Why is that?
 
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Lol. You've never owned an 808 by the sounds of it.

Actually, I have used 808 cartos many times and I like them fine. I'm using one at this very moment with a 510/808 adapter. I just find that a 510 type connector allows me more options without having to use an adapter. If someone is determined to look like they're still smoking, it doesn't make all that much difference. They can still use 808 cartos with an adapter, but they'll probably save some initial cash with a 510 unit. 510 batteries can be had cheaper, since there are so many of them being made and I'm not aware of any advantage a unit with an 808 connector has over a 510 unit in terms of battery capacity or power.
 

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I started with V2 and got some of the sealed autos from Volt as well. I was the same...needed a system that looked, hit, felt, and tasted exactly like a Marlboro Light so went with and white shorty auto with a red LED, white blank and and a tobacco flavor. Did the trick too...quit smoking just a couple days after getting my kit. With that said, I agree with the advise above. These good folks have been there and done that, and just want to save us some time and money because they know we'll be looking for better batts and less fuss with carto very soon. Good luck to you and welcome!
 

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Before you buy any "looks like a cigarette" system, ask yourself one question:

Do I want to be tethered to a charger?

Ignore what the advertising says, these batteries last about an hour or two at the most, and you can't get the good heat/flavor of LR attys.

I don't recommend anything below 600mah. Here's a good starter battery system, dirt cheap:

eGo 510 650mAh USB Passthrough Battery

The charging unit is built into the base. Get some LR 510 cartos and you are set for hardware for a long time.

Is there something like this that is compatible with 808 carts. I amm open to also getting something like this but as stated I also need the smaller style Im getting 2 batts and pcc charger. I appreciate everyones input and am open minded to something like this but not for my purpose right now. Also everyone should understand I am using the anolog style as a tool I work with my hands on ladders roofs etc. I need both hands and have a habit that will be hard to break If I cant smoke as I normally would in public and at work. I DONT WANT TO LOOK LIKE I AM SMOKING ......... OR ANY QUESTIONABLE DEVICE also I am new and can return the volt if it is not fullfilling i cant get my money back for the ego.
 
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slyvest

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I started with a v2 kit back in late november. It was ok, and it got me off analogs, but I switched to a Kgo a few weeks ago and haven't looked back. My wife is still using her v2 fwiw.


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To be honest quitting Newports is my main focus. If I should change my mind in 2 weeks and I spend $100 now and another$30 later I would still be saving money. I live in New York I pay between $10-13 per pack and smoke a pack a day. As long as I get off Im happy. If I spend $400 on e cig device ( I cant afford to) then in a month I still would have saved. For me I need the small device for work and socially period. I want a home unit just want to make sure I like the sensation first. I dont have alot of money but Im wasting money the longer I wait.
 

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Is there something like this that is compatible with 808 carts. I amm open to also getting something like this but as stated I also need the smaller style Im getting 2 batts and pcc charger. I appreciate everyones input and am open minded to something like this but not for my purpose right now. Also everyone should understand I am using the anolog style as a tool I work with my hands on ladders roofs etc. I need both hands and have a habit that will be hard to break If I cant smoke as I normally would in public and at work. I DONT WANT TO LOOK LIKE I AM SMOKING ......... OR ANY QUESTIONABLE DEVICE also I am new and can return the volt if it is not fullfilling i cant get my money back for the ego.

You can get a 510/808 adapter to use an 808 carto or atty on any 510 device, including that ego. With the ego though, there is a cone that screw on to give it a streamlined look. In that case, there is a special adapter with threads for that cone. It's not the normal 510/808 adapter. You don't really NEED the cone, and an 808 carto might not even fit through the hole in the end of the standard cone, like a 510 carto would. So, in the case on eGo type PV with the wider 808 carto, you'd need a special cone with a bigger hole, PLUS a special 510/808 adapter that has the threading for the cone. Total cost is about $10.

Personally, I just use 808 cartos on my eGo with a standard 510/808 adapter and forget the cone. It doesn't look as cool, but it works just fine.
 
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