Pls help help - newbie (2-3 months) confused with cartomizers...

[robertboyl]

Hi, everyone

Ive been using ecigs for around 2 to 3 months. Im having a hard time to decide on the best atomizer/cartomizer solution... One that lasts, has good taste/vapor production...

I didnt like dripping too much for every day use, as I dislike having to drip all the time... As a heavy smoker (3 packs a day), I prefer to have something ready for me to use heavily whenever I want.

Initially I bought an Ego-T, enjoyed it but had a lot of leaking issues. Recently I got some ego-c atomizer/heads and leaking issue stopped. Only thing is Ego-C is Type A, so it doesnt support too much juice. The ego-c atomizer Im using is LR (I bought both LR and normal but started with the LR pack) and it has lasted up to 2 weeks at the most, one of them didnt last for more then a few days.

I also bought a mini tube but have not received it yet.

I bought several types of cartomizers also for HC/HG, such as:

- Boge 510 regular and LR - Ive tried regular for now. They seem to last well, perhaps 3 weeks. But they annoy me as suddenly I feel some bad taste, I think the juice doesnt last much since its just 0,8 ml and I end up having to refill all the time, but before I know its time to refill, since its not transparent, I drag and get that bad taste. Although Ive seen good feedback on the forum, I think I didnt adapt to them so well.

- HC Dual Coil cartomizers - most 2 ohms, a few at 1 ohms. Really good, these seem to last well, 3 weeks or more if I dont break them since its fragile. the taste is good, they have a good price tag.

- DCT - I bought this 3.5 DCT with some Pre-punched Dual Coil Cartomizers 510 both LR 1,5 and 2 ohms. Im having a hard time with these... Initially it worked well, but the 2 cartomizers I used last suddenly Im unable to drag, its as if juice cant make it through the whole and they get clogged really fast. If I put juice in the cartomizer itself (which I always do initially as instructed), it works well, but juice in the tank itself seems to not get picked up by the cartomizer.

Now I see these Stardust/Vision for sale at HC with ego-c batteries for a very good deal. Perhaps Ill give those a shot, I like it how it has the measurements on it so I know how many mililiters Im at, etc.

What would you guys recommend me? Im not sure if I get Ego-C type B or what atomizer is the best for me yet...

Also, the higher the OHMs, the better for high voltage, correct? What resistance should I be getting for my EGO and for my Mini Tube which Ill receive soon?

Thanks!!!

 

[badmotivator]

I just got my first Vision Stone yesterday, and I think I won't go back to cartomizers, tanked or not. Less flooding, cleaner and more consistent flavor. Cheap, too.

I'll be moving up to the Vision Vivi Nova ($15ish) soon and then repairables with stainless steel wicks after that.

Hope that helps.

 

[r77r7r]

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[robertboyl]

Thanks for super quick answer, badmotivator! Maybe then thats the answer for me, instead of buying tons of different options and going crazy, getting a few Visions and seeing if I adapt... I was already gonna get more ego-c heads, more HC cartomizers, more DCT pre-punctured cartomizers.... a lot of $$$.

Where are you purchasing, if I may ask? Can you give me a link? This is the same as the ones sold at HC?

How long have they lasted for you?

I buy a lot of stuff from China (HC/HV), but sometimes prefer to buy in the US since I have relatives there that can bring me what I buy here to Brazil.

I saw some nice promotions at HC of ego-c battery (which I was already gonna get some spare ones anyways) + Vision cartomizer, are there similar deals in the US shops?

r77r7r, thanks also I got that one I mentioned, DCT tank from HC, initially loved it, but its not lasting... Maybe Im doing something wrong, Ill try to clean it, blow, etc. I put a brand new pre-punctured cartomizer (1,5 or 2 ohms), if I put juice in it, it works, but in the tank it doesnt pick up the juice... Any specific brand of cartomizer you recommend for my 3.5 ml tank?

What ohms should I be getting for my EGO and my Tube which I havent received it? The higher the OHMs the better for higher voltage, correct?

Thanks again.

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

Hi & Welcome! Sounds like this thing might be made for you... I believe it's one of the ones Badmotivator mentioned above: GotVapes VISION ViVi NOVA™ 3.5ml Twist-On Replaceabe Coil TANK [gv-VIVINOVA-TANK] - $15.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more I'm hoping to order one of these early next month myself. It comes with three different atty heads at different resistances: 1.8, 2.4 & 2.8 Ohms. On your eGo batteries (they run around 3.4 volts) I expect you'll prefer the lower resistances; if you get a higher volt or vv PV the 2.8 Ohm will probably be more useful on it. The thing is, you'll be able to experiment with different resistances to see which works best for you & the e-liquids you prefer. Different liquids vape best at different temperatures.

Best of luck & Happy Vaping!

 

[r77r7r]

The DCT may not work well with your choice of juice. You can try a different carto/tank combo with bigger holes-
Tanks - Mom and Pop Vapor Shop

Yes, higher ohms usually for higher voltage. It's popular to use a 2.0 ohm max on an ego such as yours. I have been using the Boge2.0 for a year with no problems.

3 weeks might be a bit to long to use a carto and that is why the drag gets tight.

You can try to open the holes more in the carto with a nail, you can slide a pin slowly up the center of the carto to provide better airflow.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Yep presently using a Chopper tank with a side hole for filling and just ordered a sub tank from Mom and Pop- also has a side screw for easy filling.

The DCT may not work well with your choice of juice. You can try a different carto/tank combo with bigger holes-
Tanks - Mom and Pop Vapor Shop

Yes, higher ohms usually for higher voltage. It's popular to use a 2.0 ohm max on an ego such as yours. I have been using the Boge2.0 for a year with no problems.

3 weeks might be a bit to long to use a carto and that is why the drag gets tight.

You can try to open the holes more in the carto with a nail, you can slide a pin slowly up the center of the carto to provide better airflow.

 

[r77r7r]

Chopper tank is nice and looks quite similar to the m&p. I'm using the smaller Bogelr in the big sub tank. I'm kind of surprised that you use these instead of fancier ones on your Meg and Provy PV's., I just use them on my ego PT's.

 

[Wickedwench]

I had similar problems. I found someone who's videos I could trust on Youtube (search under pbusardo), then experimented on the cheap.
I really like the ego dual coil mega cartomizers from Mad Vapes, but felt I was wasting too much juice. After watching Mr. Busardo's videos, I finally got the tanks to work properly, but it still feels like I'm walking around with a full wine glass (feels too delicate). I will be ordering the stone clearomizer soon.
After all this, I can confidentially say the problem was me. I was always rushed by family members to smoke quickly so we could go back to dinner, get out of the cold, etc. As a result, I was taking short sharp puffs of of my ecigs. The physics of liquid didn't like that and gave me all kinds of trouble.
Slow down. No one is gonna take your ecig away (yet). Long, slow drags, with a few seconds between will get you better results with whatever systems you're using.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

LOL I guess I'm just concerned about performance and care not about looks- each to their own. I rarely, if ever, use the Provari as the Don keeps me very happy. I found the Chopper Tank great except for the fact the rubber cap on the fill well degrades/ rots so I've ordered the sub with the aluminum screw.
Happy Vaping.

Chopper tank is nice and looks quite similar to the m&p. I'm using the smaller Bogelr in the big sub tank. I'm kind of surprised that you use these instead of fancier ones on your Meg and Provy PV's., I just use them on my ego PT's.

 

[robertboyl]

Hi, guys

Thanks for all the tips. A few more questions so I can do my purchase...

1) About the HC DC tank, I like it. But its strange, sometimes I just cant drag on it. I shake it around a bit, etc. not sure if its pressure or something. Or I fill liquid in the tank then it seems I have to wait a bit so it can get into the cartos, then it works. For exmaple, just now, I just switched batteries and it stopped working... I put it down for a while and went to another method such as HC carto or ego-c tank, then Ill try it again later...

These other tanks you guys mentioned, Vision and Moms and Pappas are better? which one is better? Theyre US made? As I havent seen them on the chinese HC/HG sites....

2) This is the basic Visions most people are using, right? GotVapes VISION eGo Stardust™ 1.6ml TC Carto 2.5-2.8 ohm CLEAR [gv-visionstardust-2.5] - $7.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

Seems similar price as HC, so good deal... Just HC has some new long wick version...

I see gotvapes offers it at 2.5-2.8ohms, while HC has a wider variety of options, 1.8ohms, 2.1ohms, 2.5-2.9 ohms, etc...

This one sold by Gotvapes will permit high voltage vaping with my mini tube and also work well with Ego batteries?

I imagine the lower ohms like 1.8 from HC or 2.1 from gotvapes will give me LR vaping on the Ego and the higher ohms will be more useful for the Mini tube VV, correct?

I keep wondering about price also, for example, the HC cartomizer costs 10 bucks and comes with 5. Considering each one lasts 2 to 3 weeks, it can last over 3 months. With the Vision Ill spent 8 bucks on just 1 that can last how long, I imagine 2-3 weeks. Then I replace the cartomizer for 6 bucks. So it is much more expensive experience right...

3) The Vivi Novas look really nice.

I see the changeable heads cost like 3 bucks each, so very similar price to the pre punched cartomizer I was getting from my HC DCT for US$2...

4) So for someone like me who has already a variety of things. HC DCT, HC cartomizer, Boge, Ego-C tank system...

I think I will get a Vivi Nova + some extra coil heads and perhaps also the Vision stardust, or should I maybe just invest in one of them and get extra cartomizers for it?

Ive also heard well in brasilian forum about the horizontal cartomizers. Any recommendations on those?

5) The HC deal seems really hard to beta. US$ 50, 2 ego-c batteries, 5 stardusts... Maybe Ill get 1 of those kits and get the Vivi Nova at Gotvapes...

Thanks again!

 

[John D in CT]

When you say that the carto/tank just stops working when you change batteries, maybe you should just drop everything and just pull your post. It only takes a minute, and it can really increase your satisfaction. Watch PBusardo as he pulls his post; he's really very good at it, having had a lot of practice:

A PBusardo Tutorial - How to Pull Your Post ;-) - YouTube

Of course, I'm referring to the post at the bottom of the carto - what did you think I meant? - that makes contact with the positive terminal of the battery, right inside the 510 connection. Sometimes they get pushed up too high, and just need to be worked down a bit with a pointy object.

I have very good luck with Smoktech 3.5ml DCT tanks with stainless steel "XL" sized cartos in them, and just like Canadians, I think everyone should own at least a few. A properly punched or slotted carto of the correct resistance for your PV will give a very, very good vape.

PBusardo slotting a cartomizer: A PBusardo Tutorial - How I slot my cartos!.wmv - YouTube

Speaking of "proper resistance", i think you should ditch the dual coils at lower voltages like on an eGo battery, and stick to a single coil with a 1.7 - 1.8 resistance. That would give you around 6.4 - 6.8 watts on the one coil, which should give a pretty darn good vape. To me, "dual coils" are largely hype, with "triple coils" being 50% more so. I think you get plenty of vapor off a single coil, and I bet it makes juice go farther as well.

If you can't draw a hit very well through a carto any more, then it just sounds like it's clogged and needs to be cleaned, or better yet, just replaced. And make sure you never, ever run one when it's too dry, or IMO you will ruin it forever. When putting a new one in a tank, I fill them repeatedly until juice starts dripping out of the bottom of it, while also filling the tank. When you put the top of the tank on, the dripping will stop, unless you've cut too big a slot or slots in the carto. I've never needed more than one small slot, and two slots caused flooding the only time I tried that, as predicted by PBusardo.

Lastly, here's a good thread on voltages, resistance, and wattages:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ined-detail-single-dual-coil-atty-cartos.html

 

[gabyctaro]

Have you tried this !? It never leaks and it's a tank system :
REVIEW OF THE BIANSI IMIST ATOMISER FOR ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES - YouTube

 

[robertboyl]

Thanks, John! that helped a lot!!