Porvorn!

[ScandaLeX]

Sugar & Cream / Peaches & Cream- same thing if you ask me. With all the yarn & cotton I have I've got enough to last til infinity.

 

[Highwayman1224]

Nope , I meant Sugar N Cream.

Lily Sugar 'n Cream

LOL, ok. I buy peaches & cream at Walmart.

 

[glassgal]

Well that doesn't sound good.

Imagine the taste of a hot coil wrap frying a hull.

I'd stick to Silica and/or get a bag of organic cotton balls from Walgreens. One 80-100 count $3.99 bag should last about 5 decades.

Well, I meant there were brown specks in the cotton... not actual chunks of cotton husk... um... don't think.

But point taken, next time I go by Walgreen's I'll get some organic cotton balls.

 

[Kn0ttYFive]

I got a Diver in the Classifieds too last week, and I think I'm going to resell it, because it too uses a non and charged wire, and after watching the pbusardo video, I have NO idea how to do what I watched him do (touch 2 wires together and they just stuck. huh?

Keep the Diver Atty. You can get NR-R-NR pre-made HERE They work great, easy setup.

(NiChrome coils and wicks for Rebuidable Atomizers /with non resistance heat welded wire leads)

 

[glassgal]

Keep the Diver Atty. You can get NR-R-NR pre-made HERE They work great, easy setup.

(NiChrome coils and wicks for Rebuidable Atomizers /with non resistance heat welded wire leads)

Are you using a Diver? I was really daunted by that whole 2 wire thing, do you have one and like it??

 

[ScandaLeX]

Are you using a Diver? I was really daunted by that whole 2 wire thing, do you have one and like it??

Which is why I immediately stop right there. If I need 2 different types of wire I become uninterested in progressing forward.
So chances of me buying that atty become slim to none with none winning.

Sent from a big phone!

 

[glassgal]

Yah... I didn't know there were 2 wires with it... I thought I'd just cut the right length wire, wrap it around my cotton twine (with the husk chunks in it), and vape. Then, I found out there were 2 wires involved... uhh...

BUT, if you guys think it's a good vape, I could get the pre-made ones... I might have found someone to trade it to in the Classies already tho.

 

[ScandaLeX]

Yah... I didn't know there were 2 wires with it... I thought I'd just cut the right length wire, wrap it around my cotton twine (with the husk chunks in it), and vape. Then, I found out there were 2 wires involved... uhh...

BUT, if you guys think it's a good vape, I could get the pre-made ones... I might have found someone to trade it to in the Classies already tho.

Since you already have it at least give it a good try out before trading it.

Sent from a big phone!

 

[chadsmo]

Technically it's three wires lol , NR - R - NR. I have five attys that use this setup and two of them are amazing and worth the effort.

An attempt to bring this slightly back on topic, The Dripper PRO uses NR wire and it's what I've vaped nearly all day for 9 months. Though these days the Sofia (another NR atty) has stollen it's spot for some Provari love.

The Dripper PRO

 

[Kn0ttYFive]

Are you using a Diver? I was really daunted by that whole 2 wire thing, do you have one and like it??

I use my Diver atty all of the time, I love it. I use the pre-made wires/wick from the link I sent. Easy-Peasy. I prefer 2.5-3.0ohm. Don't over think it.
You don't have to use the NR-R wire, you can use Standard Resistance wire as well which they also have pre-made.
If you want to rebuild the coil yourself that's easy to do also.

 

[glassgal]

Well ok, since you're on the subject of Drippers... AND we are on the subject of RBA, despite my huge effort to pull this thread back on track *cough*...

can one of you tell me the REAL differences between the RBA beyond the cosmetics? I mean Pbusardo and others review each one like it's completely unique... but after looking at a load of pix, and seeing 4 of them in my face (so far, have er... a lot more coming). What is actually different about them if they are the same type?

Ie., what is the DIFFERENCE between a Sophia and a Diver? They are both carto tanks. The Diver is pretty simple, it's a carto tube, with a ceramic cup that you put 2 wires into. Why can't you just put 1 wire in? Why use 2 types of wire and not 1? What's the difference?

Here's the Diver... it's just a metal tube with a ceramic cup...

I got some others already... like the dripper one on the left. I have NO idea what it is (trade and he doesn't remember either), but it's the same general size and configuration as your dripper top right minus the little indents:

Shouldn't that build the same way? Nope... it uses regular kanthal wire. Why are they different?

And here's how I set it up (so I could test JetCity's Ahlusion Maple Dream - which is lovely). If it wasn't already built, I'd be pretty stumped... once I ruin it, I'm going to be more stumped, so how do you rebuild that Dripper Pro Chadsmo?

 

[chadsmo]

To briefly answer one of your questions, the Dripper PRO rebuilds exactly the same as the Diver and the Sofia. The other part of your post is a huge answer to say it right which I can't get to right this second sorry, but there are answers for all your questions.

 

[kas122461]

I am no pro on this, I am waiting on my sophia's, but you have to use the nr wire because of the design. if you don't use it the legs get to hot and will damage the devise. I can't buy one yet but I think I will get a zapper to join the 2 wires.

Zappers

 

[qorax]

The Killer, Diver/s & Sophia ~ Comparison & History:

1. The Killer indeed is the first. It is the pioneering Carto-RBA by Leo! Followed soon by Atmistique in the 1st quarter of this year ~ with their Diver... mainly to weed out the issues ppl had popping in/out their Killer (from their tanks) due to it's bloated waistline.

2. The Diver made it easier... with it's uniform tube it soon won the hearts of the masses. However, it till date stands marred with the "must have a morning leak" syndrome. However we built it - it'd pee. If we could fix it's 'usual' leakage - it'd yet take a routine pee when not in use for a few hrs. I had two - thus I know. And I'm considerably handy with 'building'!

Which is why, many like me, swore by the Killer. Come what may, however difficult it was to load/unload, it wouldn't spill, wet or pool up the mod's 510. Has a warmer vape ~ fixed by the use of long column driptips ~ but vapes well. Incidentally, it (the Killer) is also better built than the Diver. Better gauge steel, better finish, sturdier, robust and hmm, has a Serial#! I, for one, can never trade my Killer705 (Septero) for anything else. It has a nostalgic value - though the Sophia is in my arms!

3. Then came The Sophia... better design, trimmed hemlines, ballistic internals ~ and the rest is history! We all know very well about it by now. It is the 3rd iteration of a Carto-RBA. Has taken it's hints from her elder sibling - and has perfected it to a point of no return! A must have in our vape bowl.

4. Atmistique listened. Thus, the birth of The Diver v2. Which is definitely a take on the Sophia, but redefining it's earlier version with a couple of worthy tweaks. Then again, it is a lower end design ~ lower materials (ditto as the 1st Diver) ~ sans the awesome 'juice control' of Leo's Carto-RBAs... as such, trick-or-treat(?) - only time will tell. So, do I buy it? If you need one - get the Sophia - it doesn't get any better than that! If you already have a Sophia - No Need. However, if you are one of them who insists on some variety in their tanks - you're most likely to bag it as well. Hmm, I did.

BOTTOMLINE: Sophia (ΣΟΦΙΑ) is the Killer... the best Carto-RBA out there√

Why use NoResistance Wires in the above:

Why do NR-R-NR in CE2 type setups?

It's all about heat dissipation. We all know about "Hot Legs" (HL) and "Hot Spots" (HS) right? They are the bane of our builds. Will get you metallic taste, poor VTF* and nil or low vape satisfaction.

In a regular SRTAº the coil rests in close proximity to the terminals (+/- posts), thus HL & HS are avoided. However, in a CE2÷ type RBA the coil is distant from the terminals... the legs are stretched, which produces two hassles - (#1)HL/HS obviously and (#2)the 'heat' runs beyond the actual coil towards the terminals, along the length of the wires.

This #2 is the dogma. Which further does two things - (a)renders wastage, as the 'heat' is everywhere without tactfully remaining in the coils and (b)effects the ceramic and the Delrin insulators, which might melt/break/weaken.

The aforesaid twin snags can only be avoided by keeping the heating element within the periphery of the coil - thus the use of a 'resistance' (R) wire. And the legs remain inert by using a 'non-resistance' (NR) wire.

BOTTOMLINE: Pls don't do a straight "R" build in these RBAs.
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*VTF = Vapor Throat-Hit, Flavor
ºSRTA = Silica Rebuildable Tank Atty
÷In this case the Diver, the Killer or the Sophia

 

[LoganCrane]

It was a long night at work, stressed and hoping my Sophia's can help relax me with the fresh Five Pawn liquids...

 

[kas122461]

It was a long night at work, stressed and hoping my Sophia's can help relax me with the fresh Five Pawn liquids...

How do you like the Bowdens mate, I have a jar of it, and the mint was a bit overwhelming for me, I was hoping that the chocolate was going to be stronger.

 

[LoganCrane]

How do you like the Bowdens mate, I have a jar of it, and the mint was a bit overwhelming for me, I was hoping that the chocolate was going to be stronger.

By far my favorite...can't...stop...vaping...

 

[kas122461]

I am waiting on my sophia's to get here, for some reason usps sent them to Flordia, but when I do get them, I think I will try the Bowdens mate again.

 

[baghandler]

Just wanted to say that I successfully built my very first coil for the Sophia last night (actually, my very first coil ever). Kantha ready wire and organic cotton balls for the win! Vaping happily on some TV Pralines & Cream right now.

 

[Highwayman1224]

My new mini & I at the zoo, lol.