Pre-vet workshop thread

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whiskey

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True, but AFAIK, nobody signed any contracts or anything. We're all free agents and we are not being compensated for our work--and we do work hard here. I'm not trying to stir the pot--this is a straightforward question--why is there no way of getting around it???? We agreed to the contest at some point in time because some of us ;) believed it was a good idea/it would work/whatever, but now we've discovered that that wasn't the case. We acted in good faith and tried to accomodate the contests idea as best we could. Since it obviously didn't work out, why can't prevets be separated from the contests, as Fran had suggested?

We are stuck with the contests because those members that got entered into the contests for one.
and the rules advertise what they are to do, to be able to get entered in them and that can't be pulled out mid stream, there would be some ...... off members if we did that...so yeah...we are stuck with the contests
 

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I'm willing to be part of the solution...and I don't want to see pvt crash and burn. But while I can contribute, make suggestions, and show up when I can, even if I had the dedication I don't have the time that's been necessary to maintain the organization. That's the issue, pvt means a lot to me, but even with the more manageable pace, it takes a substantial amount of time to keep it organized.

When it runs it's worth it, and we have new people who are getting invested in the thread, which is fantastic, but it all comes back to trying to keep it running smoothly- and that's what takes time and energy, and dedication.
 
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whiskey

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Pre-vet got too complicated, now it's about to crash. I'm not putting the blame on anyone, but I can see that it has affected nearly everyone who has posted here in the last few days.

The turning parties, no doubt were fun for many, but they involved a lot of work and became tiring as many of you are finding out.

Like it has been suggested, the contest should be separated from PVT. Perhaps it's time to go back to the roots of PVT and just have the welcome threads in the Veteran's Forum. Clean, simple and a good chance of longevity.

I am not being rude or sarcastic, but Jerry I am wondering why you are chiming in???After all, you stopped attending most turnings and only show once in a while. I am just wondering...
 
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Hi all. Was doing a flyby, but decided to check here. :facepalm::facepalm:

I'm glad to see the discussion is starting up. Also encourages by people's opinions.

I've received no other external communication... so what you read here is what you get. Now, for some ramblings:

Resolved Issues (until/unless it needs to change for some reason):
A) Like CES, Kat, others have mentioned, the thread should stay a thread. Fine by me. Thread is still a thread.
B) We have no extremely urgent time issue, although to respect Tib's and whiskey's wishes we need to resolve this.

Open Issues:
C) The list thread needs a home. I suggest a neutral place, with neutral people. That last bit needs some explaining. The list cannot be associated with a single person. Pre-Vet Celebration has grown beyond a person. Although I have no intention of removing whiskey's name from post #1, and grant her full credit for the creation of the thread, it's clear that her leaving results in a "list move" at minimum. Also, since the contests are associated there is a "bigger than a thread" concept at work here. I don't want the thread "owned" by whiskey, tibs, jj, me, you, your sister, your brother, the abominable snowman or even Elvis. It doesn't make sense to me. I suggest a group "owned" AND moderated by ECF admin/moderator staff.

The social groups say that they can be monitored by moderators. Fine. That's all we need. Some of us may have special privileges to edit the list thread. IDK if that can be assigned on a thread-basis or not. Those of you that admin groups may know more about this or the possibilities. I'm having a hard time defining the possibilities since I don't know the software or the available options.

The contest on a monthly basis is not an issue that I know of. But:
D) What if there is no PVT member available to do "fireworks" at the assigned time? What happens to the contest Grand Prize entry? Also, how do we make it up to the vet?
E) Some seem to think that rescheduling the time (because they can't be there at the normal time for "fireworks") violates the contest rules for Grand Prize entry and disqualifies the vet. I want double confirmation on this. If they arrange it ahead of time, and the list is update with a new date and time, they show up for the fireworks...why are they not eligible? What is the real issue, or is it a communication problem?


The easiest solution to D is to ensure that there is someone available. This will be easier with more participation. The intent is to not only grow participation in avatar parties/threads but to grow PVT group members. Having a social group for them may raise some awareness of the group... while keep the thread itself a thread. So an open group where everyone can join/drop and that encourages a "party/celebrate" accomplishments is a positive thing IMO.

If E is clarified it would help. Another option (I stress option) is to hold fireworks celebrations in advance. Now, this takes some explaining due to E. However I think it could work. Let's say we hold celebrations 4 times a day at pre scheduled times....example midnight, 6 am, noon, 6 pm. We publish fireworks along with congrats messages for anyone about to turn before the next "window" (midnight.. anyone that turns from midnight ->6:00 am. Yeah, I know they are at :25 past, but that still works for the windows. So, all the member has to do is post "Thank You!" during their assigned turning time and they are still eligible since they are "there" at that time... even if we aren't. We would have posted links to their welcome threads in the fireworks. That may take the pressure off. I still want E clarified though.

Just kicking it around.
 

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atty - i was just about to sign off - but let me dedicate a few more minutes. we went through E in length back in april and jj made it very clear that, for contest eligibility, it has to be the exact turning time as given by the ecf software.
remember, we had come up with better solutions then and were told a pointblank 'no' at which time you left the discussion group.
 

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Thanks for the offer bud, but I'm not one to put anyone out, and there are plenty of other regulars turning vet that'll keep you guys busy changing avatars. A simple "Congrats on making it a Year" is more than sufficient for me.
Now that I'm up till all hours of the morning for my job, I'll try to drop by more often and see what's going on over here. Have a great night folks, and Attypops thanks again for the offer
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PMs notifying PreVets that they are approaching veteran status will not be sent out. Members must make it to the PreVet thread on their own, or with the help of a friend.:)

Please read the First Post in the PreVet thread for additional information.

Welcome to the ECF Pre-Vet thread!

And, as an added bonus, celebrating your special day with us entitles you to an entry in the Veteran 2012 Contest!

You can find further information here:http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/contests/256629-veteran-2012-contest.html

Times for our turnings are all Eastern and looked up by an ECF Moderator.
Dates are checked by at least two people but, when dealing with different time zones and the forum software not recognizing leap year, mistakes can happen. ;)

If you don't see yourself listed, or don't see a theme listed for your day and you want one, let us know.
Your presence on the PreVet thread is required if you requested an Avatar Party. Please, join us in advance of your turning time and enjoy the celebration


June


June 19 - Loveridden - (23:47 - 12:25 AM) Avatar Party: ''House'' & Characters {Fran}
Attn West Coast Crew - this turning will happen 9:25pm your time on the 18th
June 20 - Xaiver - (2:03 = 2:25 AM) Welcome thread: new version of Dr. Who pictures {Lost}
June 20 - Ever1ast - Welcome thread >>>>>>> time needed
June 21 - MrsCasey - (0:57 - 1:25 AM) Avatar Party: Crows and Butterflies {Katya}
Attn West Coast Crew - this turning will happen 10:25pm your time on the 20th
June 25 - VapingTurtle - (12:23 = 12:25 PM) Avatar Party: Turtles and Cowgirls {tib}



July

July 08 - carpedebass - (19:08 = 7:25 PM) *Avatar Party: Fishing and Pretty Women {Catt}
July 08 - rkayw - Avatar Party: Blue Butterflies (Thyroid Awareness) >>>>>> time needed
July 09 - LauraBolyard - (18:05 = 6;25 PM) Avatar Party: Her PhotoBucket pictures here in conjunction with baby polar animals{Whiskey}
July 11 - Jefferson62 - (14:04 = 2:25 PM) Avatar Party: Chihuahuas, Exotic Cars & Women {Whiskey}
July 13 - Shannon65 - (4:51 = 5:25 AM) Avatar Party : Chris Rene & his music
July 15 - bully mom - (20:31 = 9:25 PM) Avatar Party: Anything Bulldog {CES}
July 15 - milo hobo - (9:20 = 9:25 AM) Avatar Party: Meditation gardens/groves {Fran}
July 17 - JustaGuy - (21:30 = 10:25 PM) Avatar Party: Star-crossed lovers {Katya}
July 20 - Allazar - (6:22 = 6:25 AM) Avatar Party: Alphonse Mucha {Katya}
July 20 - Airborn3 - (18:57 = 7:25 PM) Avatar Party: Muscle cars {CES}
July 24 - Woody55 - (10:01 = 10:25 AM) Avatar Party: Sheriff Woody or ''anything Texan" {tib}
July 28 - Sundrinkr - (16:39 = 5:25 PM) Avatar Party: Funny,Jokes, and Quotes {JAG}
July 29 - krazynavybiker - (12:48 = 1:25 PM) Avatar Party: Girls on bikes {Meggers}


Please note Anniversaries & Birthdays are now kept separate from Pre-vet list:)
 

AttyPops

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It's in the rules as follows:
and you have to be on the PreVet thread when you turn and when the fireworks go off!!!

And it's the software that determines when you turn. However IF YOU DON'T LOG ON, YOU DON'T TURN.

So if "AbsenteeAbe" is not going to be available during his "normal" turning time... we reschedule and he doesn't log in. As long as he "turns" at the right time, and we do fireworks I don't see where that's a violation or even a rule change. So I still think its a communication problem.
 
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