Premature Atomizer Failure....

What was in use when you suffered most of your premature atty failure...

  • VG base using mini atty on standard battery (less than 5v.)

  • VG base using mini atty on passthrough (5v.)

  • VG base using mini atty on a mod (5+ volts)

  • VG base using pen style atty on standard battery (less then 5v.)

  • VG base using pen style atty on passthrough (5v.)

  • VG base using pen style atty on mod (5+ volts)

  • PG base using mini atty on standard battery (less than 5v.)

  • PG base using mini atty on passthrough (5v.)

  • PG base using mini atty on mod (5+ volts)

  • PG base using pen style atty on standard battery (less than 5v.)

  • PG base using pen style atty on passthrough (5v.)

  • PG base using pen style atty on mod (5+ volts)


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There are so many variables that could be listed but only having 15 options just won't cut it. I'll put up some more polls if people can let me know the different variables that need to be mentioned. I did originally place this in the General Discussions but within a few minutes it was moved.

This was a great move; i applaud it :)

Only something like a questionaire with s sequence of multiple choice questions can give the full picture though.

Meant well maybe, but moving this poll was a seriously bad move.
 

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Kin..a questionnaire with multiple choice would've been great but you are still limited to 15 options. The use of a poll would better demonstrate, in one easily viewable place, what the general consensus is as opposed to people randomly placing information throughout a thread...just my opinion.

I am more than willing to put up numerous polls...just give me the different variables involved.
 
Kin..a questionnaire with multiple choice would've been great but you are still limited to 15 options. The use of a poll would better demonstrate, in one easily viewable place, what the general consensus is as opposed to people randomly placing information throughout a thread...just my opinion.

This will probably need to be setup elsewhere. I'll think about it ...
 

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This is premature, I know, but I see something already, with PG penstyle and other styles as well.
I have an 801, and am convinced the batteries do not deliver enough juice to vap to the 801's capability, and life of my batteries have been bad also. Have lost 4 or 5, lost track, in just over 2 months. That's too high a death rate to take for granted, and am convinced the attys foul prematurely also because of the batt. (have lost 3 attys). Am I crazy or is this being made apparent already?
Maybe its just that there are more penstyles in use, don't know that. And don't know percentage that use VG either. May not be enough info for good comparison. Lower numbers of VG users would scramble the data.
 
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I think there may be other new e-cig smokers out there who don't know how to answer the poll because we haven't been vaping long enough to know for sure why ours quit. I have only had one quit, but have only been on e-cigs for less than a month - also was using original carts with PG for awhile and now cutting my nicotine juice with Glycerine (Wilcox brand from Michael's) so unsure which thing might have made a difference - or if it was just me being too new to the e-cig and what I was doing. I figure my answer might skew the poll as I really don't know yet what I was doing. Just lost one battery today (or maybe tips from the forum I have gotten will revive it, not sure yet). I smoke DSE 801 Penstyle - also have a 501 but can't quite get the carts right to enjoy, still working on it.
Darlene
 

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I think there may be other new e-cig smokers out there who don't know how to answer the poll because we haven't been vaping long enough to know for sure why ours quit. I have only had one quit, but have only been on e-cigs for less than a month - also was using original carts with PG for awhile and now cutting my nicotine juice with Glycerine (Wilcox brand from Michael's) so unsure which thing might have made a difference - or if it was just me being too new to the e-cig and what I was doing. I figure my answer might skew the poll as I really don't know yet what I was doing. Just lost one battery today (or maybe tips from the forum I have gotten will revive it, not sure yet). I smoke DSE 801 Penstyle - also have a 501 but can't quite get the carts right to enjoy, still working on it.
Darlene

I see what you mean Darlene unfortunately there are so many variations possible that it is difficult to make a poll that will cover them all. That's why it's hard to pin anything down.
 
This is premature, I know, but I see something already, with PG penstyle and other styles as well.
I have an 801, and am convinced the batteries do not deliver enough juice to vap to the 801's capability, and life of my batteries have been bad also. Have lost 4 or 5, lost track, in just over 2 months. That's too high a death rate to take for granted, and am convinced the attys foul prematurely also because of the batt. (have lost 3 attys). Am I crazy or is this being made apparent already?
Maybe its just that there are more penstyles in use, don't know that. And don't know percentage that use VG either. May not be enough info for good comparison. Lower numbers of VG users would scramble the data.

I believe there's an optimum voltage for each atomizer and that both under and over voltage could lead to premature failure.

Over voltage by overheating (exaccerbated by heat insulating deposits and physical restraint of normal expansion).

Under voltage by not vaporising the juice fully.

Sadly, the optimum is only a minimum in the combined effects; with nearly all present juices, some deposit formation is unavoidable.

Certainly there is a good case for voltage regulation of the atomiser power supply, if not also temperature control.
 
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breakfastchef

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This poll is interesting in that I expected the highest number of failures to be from using 5v+ devices. There is a learning curve to high-voltage vaping. What I am seeing in this poll may be that some atomizers just die. Why? There are so many reasons. This is curious since high-voltage can certainly fry an atty very easily till you figure out how to do it well, but folks using conventional power sources are seeing more failures. I am still uncertain what conclusion could be deducted from the poll, thus far.
 

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I'm not sure what conclusions can be obtained from this poll either. I was trying to post a number of them to come up with, maybe, a common reasoning for premature failure.

Its funny that, so many people have looked at this thread but are unwilling to participate. Is it that they have never suffered a premature failure, or that they just don't care?

Actually, I am surprised that so many failures were suffered during the use of PG while using a standard battery, I would have thought the opposite...VG and hi voltage.

I just wish more people would participate..it only takes a second or two..I guess asking people to participate in the other polls would cause a brain hemorrhage or something.
 
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