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[cobalt327]

I do not buy into the "scaring away" theory. Not to be argumentative, but I don't get it- there's just no reason someone can't rebuild a coil on day two- like I did- and that instead, they need to wait until they've burned through a couple dozen factory coils, and in the process spend more than the supplies cost to rebuild them. I mean, it's not like you acquire some secret knowledge on rebuilding Kanger heads by buying/using a bunch of factory heads.

But to each their own. Not gonna twist anyone's arm here- just note that it does require some effort. And there's the distinct possibility there will be a failure or two along the way. Such is life. The main thing is to not smoke tobacco.

 

[Toastyroadie]

Damn Toastie.

Pretty much tells you something when the thread for the GS Air is almost as long as the one for ITCvapes eh?

It sounds like an IStick 30 and a GS Air or 5 may be an answer to What is the meaning of vape life?

Thanks!

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

Huge thread, lol, three more pages at 40 posts since yesterday too.

I'm really liking this gs air, it's totally rebuildable too, another plus.

I do not buy into the "scaring away" theory. Not to be argumentative, but I don't get it- there's just no reason someone can't rebuild a coil on day two- like I did- and that instead, they need to wait until they've burned through a couple dozen factory coils, and in the process spend more than the supplies cost to rebuild them. I mean, it's not like you acquire some secret knowledge on rebuilding Kanger heads by buying/using a bunch of factory heads.

But to each their own. Not gonna twist anyone's arm here- just note that it does require some effort. And there's the distinct possibility there will be a failure or two along the way. Such is life. The main thing is to not smoke tobacco.

I agree, the material and tools to get started and a little determination go a long way. Youtube videos also help a lot.

 

[OcalaFlGuy]

Toasty, I have been on forums since 1998 or so.

I don't think I'VE EVER ONCE asked For Moderation in Any forum.

Until now. Some Moderator Seriously needs to step into that Eleaf GS Air thread.

There are 3 members in there that have turned it into their own chat room. Page after Page after Page of completely off topic garbage.

I've come close several times to messaging the 3 while Trying Like Hell to actually wade through their garbage to get to the post here and
there that has Anything to do with the Eleaf GS. I still have about 1/2 of the 300 pages left to read, hopefully, I can continue to resist the temptation.

I hope these three are enjoying themselves. They are making it Difficult for people who'd actually like to learn something about the thread topic.

THAT is EXACTLY what happens when someone like Sara doesn't toss in a friendly reminder now and then.

Thanks for pointing me there though, I DO appreciate that.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

[Toastyroadie]

It's all good, they're a bunch of great folks over there, if you have a specific question, they answer pretty quick. I'm used to that sort of chatty thing on the forums I frequent.

The title is Eleaf GS Air Fan, maybe start a thread where we can keep it to the tank, this one is for the fans.

 

[aznnp77]

I do not buy into the "scaring away" theory. Not to be argumentative, but I don't get it- there's just no reason someone can't rebuild a coil on day two- like I did- and that instead, they need to wait until they've burned through a couple dozen factory coils, and in the process spend more than the supplies cost to rebuild them. I mean, it's not like you acquire some secret knowledge on rebuilding Kanger heads by buying/using a bunch of factory heads.

But to each their own. Not gonna twist anyone's arm here- just note that it does require some effort. And there's the distinct possibility there will be a failure or two along the way. Such is life. The main thing is to not smoke tobacco.

I hate to keep disagreeing with you, but I really have to point out from my own experiences. When most people start vaping as a cigarette substitute, they have to get used to doing the things necessary to make it work. With cigarettes, you buy some, you light it, you smoke it, you throw it away. Very simple.

When you switch to vaping you've got to remember to charge your batteries, keep e-juice on hand, deal with leaking, change coils, etc. I've had 2 friends fail at switching to vaping because they said it was "too much maintenance." If they think charging a battery and changing a coil every few days is too much trouble, I can only imagine what they would think about rebuilding. I told them myself that I have spare wire, wicking material, screwdrivers and that I could teach them how to do it myself if they wanted. They always turned me down.

People live busy lives, and when you tell them "if you want to switch to vaping, you've got to do this, this, and this" some of them are going to be scared away. "F-it, too much trouble, I'll stick to cigarettes." It's another one of the issues with today's generation. Short attention spans and people not willing to put in the time. Some people don't like fiddling with things and turning vaping into a hobby. Do I like rebuilding? Not really. With the gunky Mach 10 I've got to rebuild my coil every 2-3 days or deal with diminished flavor. It's a chore, but a necessary one. That's all I have to say about that.

On a separate note, I'm just about to try the Lemon Bar. Many of the reviews say this one needs extra steeping, but I'll go ahead and try now since someone mentioned it tastes better unsteeped with the lemon really popping out. I don't have any protanks available, so I'm gonna have to jump straight to the Kayfun on this one. I'll report back after I've had a chance to try it.

 

[sarahhonald]

I hate to keep disagreeing with you, but I really have to point out from my own experiences. When most people start vaping as a cigarette substitute, they have to get used to doing the things necessary to make it work. With cigarettes, you buy some, you light it, you smoke it, you throw it away. Very simple.

When you switch to vaping you've got to remember to charge your batteries, keep e-juice on hand, deal with leaking, change coils, etc. I've had 2 friends fail at switching to vaping because they said it was "too much maintenance." If they think charging a battery and changing a coil every few days is too much trouble, I can only imagine what they would think about rebuilding. I told them myself that I have spare wire, wicking material, screwdrivers and that I could teach them how to do it myself if they wanted. They always turned me down.

People live busy lives, and when you tell them "if you want to switch to vaping, you've got to do this, this, and this" some of them are going to be scared away. "F-it, too much trouble, I'll stick to cigarettes." It's another one of the issues with today's generation. Short attention spans and people not willing to put in the time. Some people don't like fiddling with things and turning vaping into a hobby. Do I like rebuilding? Not really. With the gunky Mach 10 I've got to rebuild my coil every 2-3 days or deal with diminished flavor. It's a chore, but a necessary one. That's all I have to say about that.

On a separate note, I'm just about to try the Lemon Bar. Many of the reviews say this one needs extra steeping, but I'll go ahead and try now since someone mentioned it tastes better unsteeped with the lemon really popping out. I don't have any protanks available, so I'm gonna have to jump straight to the Kayfun on this one. I'll report back after I've had a chance to try it.

About the scaring away- I think both of y'all are right- depending on the person. Some like to tinker, others are willing to do it out of necessity and others are unwilling/intimidated. For the longest time I was intimidated by it and my poor husband coiled everything. Then I got to the point he put his foot down and told me that if I wanted coils I needed to build them. Thankfully I have one of the new coil jigs that work like a charm. I still pop coils once in a while when I tighten stuff down too much but pretty much build great now. Granted my husband can do it in 1/2 of the time, but he naturally is better at technical type stuff (he is a diesel technician floor/shift manager) and I am more of an analytical type... but I digress.

I also agree with the new generation mentality, and it is a pity in many aspects. Even with advanced vaping, I come across people in my FB vaping group who have all these high wattage box mods and have no real knowledge of battery safety(pairing batts. chip specs and limitations, ohms law, CHOOSING the right battery, I could go on) and that is a big thing. I guess I take for granted that I am the type that once I am interested in something- I want to learn everything about it. So we are always trying to educated people and help.But it seems like some shops are not doing any due diligence to make sure customers leave with the proper knowledge, and customers that are more interested in the clouds than safety... (sorry for the rant)

And finally, do you have to actually re-coil every few days? I know you use tanks and I mostly use drippers, but I usually just rewick until I can tell that the coil is too worn out. My big TOBH's on my raptors (which I run at 80-90watts @ 0.32 so I probably weaken my wire much quicker) I recoil approx once a month or when I can tell they aren't burning as nice but I usually rewick 1-2 times a week.

 

[aznnp77]

About the scaring away- I think both of y'all are right- depending on the person. Some like to tinker, others are willing to do it out of necessity and others are unwilling/intimidated. For the longest time I was intimidated by it and my poor husband coiled everything. Then I got to the point he put his foot down and told me that if I wanted coils I needed to build them. Thankfully I have one of the new coil jigs that work like a charm. I still pop coils once in a while when I tighten stuff down too much but pretty much build great now. Granted my husband can do it in 1/2 of the time, but he naturally is better at technical type stuff (he is a diesel technician floor/shift manager) and I am more of an analytical type... but I digress.

I also agree with the new generation mentality, and it is a pity in many aspects. Even with advanced vaping, I come across people in my FB vaping group who have all these high wattage box mods and have no real knowledge of battery safety(pairing batts. chip specs and limitations, ohms law, CHOOSING the right battery, I could go on) and that is a big thing. I guess I take for granted that I am the type that once I am interested in something- I want to learn everything about it. So we are always trying to educated people and help.But it seems like some shops are not doing any due diligence to make sure customers leave with the proper knowledge, and customers that are more interested in the clouds than safety... (sorry for the rant)

And finally, do you have to actually re-coil every few days? I know you use tanks and I mostly use drippers, but I usually just rewick until I can tell that the coil is too worn out. My big TOBH's on my raptors (which I run at 80-90watts @ 0.32 so I probably weaken my wire much quicker) I recoil approx once a month or when I can tell they aren't burning as nice but I usually rewick 1-2 times a week.

I'm also a person that tends to learn everything about something once I'm interested. It took weeks of reading ECF to even get beginner's knowledge of what's out there and how stuff works. It wasn't because of hobby purposes. It was because I was so frustrated with my protanks leaking and my coils burning out so quickly. They still leak a tad, but rebuilding has helped for the most part. Coils were still lasting 3 days, but it was costing me next to nothing to rebuild them. At $1 a coil it wasn't so bad, but with these $3-4 subtank and nautilus coils I imagine that could get expensive.

Most of my friends don't have the dedication I do to learning things. Many of them prefer shoes - go figure, to which I have no idea about. I know a lot about computers, audio/video, pricing of consumer products new and used, and I do most of my car maintenance and repair =). And I have a moderate understanding of vaping of course.

Yes, I do rebuild my coil every 2-3 days. I tried dryburning it once and rewicking, but it tasted like char so I stopped doing that. The coil looked grayish/whitish. I figure if I'm going to go through the trouble of draining my kayfun and taking it apart, and rewicking it, that I might as well spend the extra 2 minutes to twist up another coil. I don't do exotic builds. Just a standard single coil to 1.8 OHMs vaping between 7-9 watts.

This week I tried a different build for the first time in months. Went from a 3/32 screwdriver 28 gauge, 11 wrap (1.8-1.9 ohms) to a 5/64 (2mm) 8 wrap (1.2 ohms). I still vape it in the same wattage range, and my first coil lasted about the same and tasted about the same as my old one. I think I'll keep this build though because the coils tend to stay more straight when I'm squeezing them together since there's less wraps.

 

[OcalaFlGuy]

Allow me to solve one mystery. About ME and rebuilding coils.

It's a couple things. I'm NOT that mechanically inclined and frankly, I'm just not That Into that part of vaping Right Now.

I just Don't want to screw with it, Right Now.

Now. I actually restore some vintage fountain pens, so it's not that I'm completely inept, but not only do I enjoy that but with pens, you don't have
a lot of options. You learn to fix them yourself or you get the money to send them off and Pay someone to do it for you.

Right now I am looking at using a less than a dollar coil every 3 weeks. I don't intend to get equipment that routinely use coils ay faster.
I really have no desire to get into any breath of hades, sub ohm stuff. Wading my way through the ELeaf GS Air thread, it seems that and a IStick 30
should make me happy for some time to come after these EVODS.

Also, even if I Were That Into the rebuilding idea, I'd Still Question doing it if the main result was saving $3 every 3-4 Weeks on cois. Not to mention
the Eleaf GSA coils aren't the easiest to get apart To rebuild.

PS; Oh, and be it pens or vaping, Those People who get cranky because the way *I* desire to do things isn't the way They'd Desire me to do them?

Well those people can sod right off.

But I Do Certainly appreciate all the help the helpful here Do give.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

[aznnp77]

Initial reaction to Lemon Bar..... Very Good! It tastes just like a lemon sugar cookie. The lemon/citrus exhale is a nice touch. It really reminds me of a cookie I've had before but I can't really think of it. Maybe girl scouts?

I'll vape on this for a bit and see how it changes in the next week or so, but I'm regretting not buying a bigger bottle of this. I've also got my 120ml Winter Breeze unboosted, and can tell I'm going to like it more than the flavor boosted version I had before. It feels like it needs to be steeped a tad though as it's not "there" yet. That's all my comments for now.

I'm undecided on how I feel about the Kanger Subtank right now. It's really airy and I feel like it really takes away from the flavor. I've only vaped it between 8 and 14 watts so far because I don't want to burn up my coil and wick, so I'll probably try some different wattages later. My friend has already offered to buy it from me so he can have two of them, so I'll decide in the next few days.

It wouldn't become a primary tank, but I could see it being my home, cloud chasing tank. My Mutation X V3 is coming next week though. Beautiful weather in Virginia, I hope everyone else is enjoying a nice Saturday.

 

[aznnp77]

Also, even if I Were That Into the rebuilding idea, I'd Still Question doing it if the main result was saving $3 every 3-4 Weeks on cois. Not to mention
the Eleaf GSA coils aren't the easiest to get apart To rebuild.

You're doing very well if you can last 3-4 weeks on one coil. It wasn't really about the money for me though. It was the better flavor, better nicotine hit, and the ability to hit it repeatedly without getting a dry hit that keeps me rebuilding. Sometimes I've got to get back inside quickly and don't have time to wait for the juice to re-saturate the wick. I also think it helped with the leaking a little bit, and I don't have to vape it until the end of it's life where it starts to get nasty, or feel bad about wasting a coil by throwing it out prematurely.

Again, I'm not pushing you to rebuild. But I figured you should at least clearly know the benefits. It's more than just saving a few bucks.

 

[man00ver]

You're not alone, Ocala. I get plenty of mileage out of factory coils, along with greatly enjoyable vapor and flavor. The ST Nano I picked up last month is really as far as I want to go, and I haven't even had the urge to try out the 0.5ohm coil. Although I've gotten good at rinsing and filling, the whole experience is still a damn sight more fiddly than smoking ever was, and I want to maximize ease of use and pleasure.

I'm eyeballing DIY juicemaking, since there are significant savings to be had there, but still not off my duff on it yet. Maybe one day when my ITC stock run low (which won't be for quite a while, I assure you).

But these particular high-powered twisty-wicky folks are VERY good people!!!

 

[sarahhonald]

Allow me to solve one mystery. About ME and rebuilding coils.

It's a couple things. I'm NOT that mechanically inclined and frankly, I'm just not That Into that part of vaping Right Now.

I just Don't want to screw with it, Right Now.

Now. I actually restore some vintage fountain pens, so it's not that I'm completely inept, but not only do I enjoy that but with pens, you don't have
a lot of options. You learn to fix them yourself or you get the money to send them off and Pay someone to do it for you.

Right now I am looking at using a less than a dollar coil every 3 weeks. I don't intend to get equipment that routinely use coils ay faster.
I really have no desire to get into any breath of hades, sub ohm stuff. Wading my way through the ELeaf GS Air thread, it seems that and a IStick 30
should make me happy for some time to come after these EVODS.

Also, even if I Were That Into the rebuilding idea, I'd Still Question doing it if the main result was saving $3 every 3-4 Weeks on cois. Not to mention
the Eleaf GSA coils aren't the easiest to get apart To rebuild.

PS; Oh, and be it pens or vaping, Those People who get cranky because the way *I* desire to do things isn't the way They'd Desire me to do them?

Well those people can sod right off.

But I Do Certainly appreciate all the help the helpful here Do give.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

Yeah thats why different people are into different equipment and that is why there is so much variety in vaping. Different strokes for different folks. I just recently started using some of the newer tanks and I like them. But Its sooo cheaper for me to build my own coils. I can get a huge spool of wire for I think like ~$10 that usually lasts forever. The premade coils I use in my tanks are ~$20/5-pack and are much more expensive for the amount of wire/cotton etc that is in the premade coils. But I remember using carto tanks for over a year before I moved on to other things and before that I was using CE-series clearos. Some people know what is best for them and forget that much of this is subjective not objective... ie preference, equipement, juice profiles, etc. All that matters is that you enjoy what and how you vape and it keeps you off the stinkies

 

[sarahhonald]

You're not alone, Ocala. I get plenty of mileage out of factory coils, along with greatly enjoyable vapor and flavor. The ST Nano I picked up last month is really as far as I want to go, and I haven't even had the urge to try out the 0.5ohm coil. Although I've gotten good at rinsing and filling, the whole experience is still a damn sight more fiddly than smoking ever was, and I want to maximize ease of use and pleasure.

I'm eyeballing DIY juicemaking, since there are significant savings to be had there, but still not off my duff on it yet. Maybe one day when my ITC stock run low (which won't be for quite a while, I assure you).

But these particular high-powered twisty-wicky folks are VERY good people!!!

Manoover- its always great to see you here I hope the next ATL vape meet you consider going. I would love to meet some of the GA ppl in this thread if they go... or maybe I am just silly...

 

[man00ver]

Manoover- its always great to see you here I hope the next ATL vape meet you consider going. I would love to meet some of the GA ppl in this thread if they go... or maybe I am just silly...

Please mention the next event on this thread! I'll try to spot you through your cloud-cover....

 

[OcalaFlGuy]

I am at 2 weeks on the original EVOD coils and they've been cleaned once. 3 weeks each will be a shoe-in, maybe even 4 weeks.

The wicks are still fluffy white after being washed. Just the very tips are still scorched(?)

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

[OcalaFlGuy]

Manoover- its always great to see you here I hope the next ATL vape meet you consider going. I would love to meet some of the GA ppl in this thread if they go... or maybe I am just silly...

Maybe even Georgians being held POW near Gatorsvile might like that.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl-Tormenting the Gators is a nasty job but someone has to do it

 

[sarahhonald]

Please mention the next event on this thread! I'll try to spot you through your cloud-cover....

I definitely will. We usually look around but unless it is worth it- I dont buy much hardware but get free juice and they usually have special prices on juices. I prefer my online shops but enjoy trying new stuff. I did buy a Zen copper mech but it was also really cool to talk to Zen in person. Here are a few pics from last year...I have more but can post on ECF...

 

[puffon]

That's what great about vaping, there is something for everyone.
Still vape my Halo Triton, but added a VSrdna 40, wrapping Ni200.
This week added a REO, and am converting addys to BF.
My ITC juice tastes great in all. So good they have kept me from cracking open the 3ltrs of nic in the freezer........

 

[xDarkRelic]

Alright guys, I got a Istick50w on the way with a subtank mini. I'm looking forwarding to venturing into sub ohming, but I have a question.

Not only am I finally ordering spoon licker og (you guys persuaded me!) but I'll be vaping in the mini tank at .5. What ratio of pg/vg should I go with?!

I'm excited to finally try it.

 

[Croak]

Three weeks in and my Nilla Gorilla 30/70 6mg is finally starting to shine, been dripper testing it every week since that first day. I think next week it'll be tank ready. Which is good timing, as my Cinnagram is now past its prime and on the downward slide in flavor. Really really like Cinnagram FOOB, but it loses something as it steeps for me. Next order, maybe I won't speed steep it OR give it the daily shake routine. That or just order smaller quantities more often.