Price comparisons for finished, unflavored, 12%, 80/20 DIY e-juice

[RaRvn]

I'm brand new at this DIY thing and before ordering supplies I want to check if costs are reasonable.

PG & VG from http://www.essentialdepot.com

PG: 3785 mL = $26.50
VG: 3785 mL = $26.50

Price per mL = $0.014

Nic from http://www.nicvape.com

500 mL of 25mg/mL = $26.10

Cost to make 1000 mL of 12% 80/20 = $0.064/mL.


The reason for the extravagant purchase of PG&VG is that it's way cheaper to buy in gallons and it's a free shipping offer. I have co-workers who vape so I'll give them the excess at cost.

So, is 6 cents/mL about right? What does everyone else pay if you don't mind me asking?

Thanks!

 

[AzPlumber]

6 cents/ml is way cheaper than pre-made but remember any flavoring used will increase your cost. Flavors are by far the most expensive item we use. Even factoring in the flavors, bottles and labels we are still well below even the cheapest pre-made.

 

[RaRvn]

Hi AzPlumber. I hear you about the cost of flavoring. I'm still bouncing between a number of websites comparing prices/shipping etc. I don't have a huge need for variety so I'm just going to order small sizes of flavors I already like and mess around until I find a few I really like.

Honestly, after doing some research I'm a little shocked at the mark-up on pre-mixed e-juice. It's pretty high. I don't see a need to pay that if I don't have to.

 

[AzPlumber]

The cost is one of the main reasons most of us DIY along with knowing exactly what's in your vape. Just be for-warned, the purchasing of flavors will become an addiction. By nature ex-smokers have an addictive personality and the quest for "that" flavor becomes a journey.

 

[Murdock Ruml]

I costs me about $6 to make 30ml. That's not including flavoring and at 36mg. That's .05￠per ml

 

[RaRvn]

I costs me about $6 to make 30ml. That's not including flavoring and at 36mg. That's .05￠per ml

Actually, that's about .20 cents per mL (.20 x 30 = 6.00). It's 3x more nic than mine though, so that's pretty close considering the nic difference.

I think I'm going to proceed with my purchase plan; seems like pretty close to the best value I'm going to find. Thanks, Murdock!

 

[Rocketman]

Cost to make 1000 mL of 12% 80/20 = $0.064/mL.

I hope that was a typo. You don't want to make that kind of mistake with DIY.

Try and get the math right before mixing.

 

[RaRvn]

I hope that was a typo. You don't want to make that kind of mistake with DIY.

Try and get the math right before mixing.

Thank you! Where did I go wrong...?

 

[Murdock Ruml]

Actually, that's about .20 cents per mL (.20 x 30 = 6.00). It's 3x more nic than mine though, so that's pretty close considering the nic difference.

I think I'm going to proceed with my purchase plan; seems like pretty close to the best value I'm going to find. Thanks, Murdock!

Okay I feel dumb now. LOL, I did 30/6=5. Didnt think that one through.And to think, math used to be my strong point in high school. Well atleast you got the info you were after.

 

[Rocketman]

Thank you! Where did I go wrong...?

12% is 120mg/ml. I saw it in the title of the thread.

little bitty errors are waiting for you

 

[AzPlumber]

Thank you! Where did I go wrong...?

I also noticed that your pg/vg should be .007 per ml 26.50 divide by 3785 = .007. Didn't bother to check the nic calc., it's sunday evening and i'm lethargic

 

[Murdock Ruml]

I also noticed that your pg/vg should be .007 per ml 26.50 divide by 3785 = .007. Didn't bother to check the nic calc., it's sunday evening and i'm lethargic

He had it right. He had .007 for the vg and .007 for the pg. Together totaled .014.

 

[AzPlumber]

He had it right. He had .007 for the vg and .007 for the pg. Together totaled .014.

Price is per ml, you can't put two ml's together and make one. It's either one or the other or fractions of both.

 

[RaRvn]

12% is 120mg/ml. I saw it in the title of the thread.

little bitty errors are waiting for you

I don't understand. I am buying 500mL of 25mg/mL. The cost is $26.10. The end result I want is 12%. I mix 480mL nic with 520mL of PG/VG, which makes 1000mL of 12% nic, 80/20 PG/VG. Where did I go wrong there?

Lord, I hate math!

 

[RaRvn]

I also noticed that your pg/vg should be .007 per ml 26.50 divide by 3785 = .007. Didn't bother to check the nic calc., it's sunday evening and i'm lethargic

Oh, wow you are absolutely right. That means my nic/PG/VG base is only 2.7 cents per mL. Can that possibly be right??? This is giving me a headache. Lol.

 

[AzPlumber]

I don't understand. I am buying 500mL of 25mg/mL. The cost is $26.10. The end result I want is 12%. I mix 480mL nic with 520mL of PG/VG, which makes 1000mL of 12% nic, 80/20 PG/VG. Where did I go wrong there?

Lord, I hate math!

I think what Rocketman is refering to is the 12%. 12% nic is actually 120 mg/ml and not something you want to vape. 12 mg/ml is a 1.2% concentration.

 

[canoeist]

I am making 30ml for about 1.50 excluding shipping charges. A little more depending on flavoring but still very near 5 cents/ml.

 

[AzPlumber]

Oh, wow you are absolutely right. That means my nic/PG/VG base is only 2.7 cents per mL. Can that possibly be right??? This is giving me a headache. Lol.

Looks like your cost per ml minus any flavoring is around 3 cents. Using 12.5 mg/ml half of each ml will be nic base @ $0.0265 and the other half pg or vg @ $0.0035.

 

[RaRvn]

I think what Rocketman is refering to is the 12%. 12% nic is actually 120 mg/ml and not something you want to vape. 12 mg/ml is a 1.2% concentration.

Right, I see. So the formula is correct, but the terminology is 12mg/mL, not 12%? I understand. I think. LOL!

No, I would never vape 120mg. I'm only using 6mg at the moment and don't really even want to handle the 25mg, but it's the lowest formulation I can find so far. I figure nothing bad can happen if I mess up with the 25mg/mL.

You've been a great help, AzPlumber, thank you. And I'm a her BTW, not a him.

 

[AzPlumber]

Right, I see. So the formula is correct, but the terminology is 12mg/mL, not 12%? I understand. I think. LOL!

No, I would never vape 120mg. I'm only using 6mg at the moment and don't really even want to handle the 25mg, but it's the lowest formulation I can find so far. I figure nothing bad can happen if I mess up with the 25mg/mL.

You've been a great help, AzPlumber, thank you. And I'm a her BTW, not a him.

I apologize if I referred to a gender, try not to do that. Being a user you should be fine handling 25mg nic just watch out for any little ones as they will be less tolerant. Just clean up everything with a damp cloth that can't be washed off.