Prob with cap not making contact with the allen screw

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eclypse

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I PMed you on the 13th i believe and got no response to my problem.. so i thought i'd try here.. thinking maybe you'll see my post.


As i mentioned to you when i first got my Xhaler. The bottom cap cant make contact with the alan screw. I dont know if its the screw is too short or its the cap thats not made right.

I tried it tight and loose and no difference.. Then i grabbed a allen wrench and while the batteries are in the tube i loosen the screw to make it come out farther so it will touch the cap.. I ended up loosening the screw to the max to where it would fall off if i unscrewed it more. Then i put the cap on and i can screw the cap in all the way.. So i dont think its touching the cap. I'm not forcing the cap at all.. it stops when its flush with the tube.

Let me know if theres somethin i can do to make this work or if i'm doing something wrong.

Tonight i made a test rig so i could test the voltage as you and others have done. Loaded it up with 2 3v batteries. Tested the voltage with no load and my DMM read 6.55v. Then i installed a 510 atty. With the cap tight the mult read 5.50ish volts. Then loosened the cap and it was the same voltage.. I then unscrewed the Allen screw to where it was sticking out the max and holding by the last thread. Looked like it was sticking out a 1/4" from the end of the tube. I tightened the end cap all the way.. didnt seem like it was touching the Allen screw though. The voltage was the same 5.50ish volts.

Is my Allen screw too short or the cap made wrong?? The inside bottom of the cap is inverted so in my mind the scrw would have to be pretty long to reach the end of the cap.

??? What am i doing wrong..

Help me out Drew.
 

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I can say I have the exact same issue. My set screw comes up quite short from touching the cap. There is no way I can see to make the screw come in contact with the cap. My cap is milled out very deeply where it would contact the screw. the screw protrudes very slightly from the body if you look at it from the side, but with the cap on you can see the screw comes up short from making contact.
 

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Is my Allen screw too short or the cap made wrong?? The inside bottom of the cap is inverted so in my mind the scrw would have to be pretty long to reach the end of the cap.

??? What am i doing wrong..

Help me out Drew.


I was looking at mine and I can see the allen screw does not reach the end of the cap, but the sides touch and make good contact. After taking the cap off completely I can actually see where the allen screw has threaded the sides of that interior hole.

If yours isn't doing this then I would say faulty cap.
 

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Can anyone post a picture looking down the Xhaler tube and point out to me where this set screw is? I don't know what I'm looking for.

Can't take a pic for you right now but I can try to explain.

-Unscrew black end-cap. You will see the the switch mechanism which is brass. It is the silver allen screw that is sticking out of that.:)
 

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Also please dont start trying to make adjustments on the set screw...This may cause problems that are unnecasary...The set shouldnt need adjustment... The set screw does not touch on the end, because if you look it is machined , so at its widest point(top Thread) it touches the cap...The slot in the end of the cap is there for air...If that wasnt there it would be virtually air tight, except for whatever air would come through the switch mechanism... The set screw will rarely NEED and adjustment as it fits only one way...If it is crooked the end cap will not go on properly and will require a side to side adjustment as witnessed in my famous video poted the other day...THe other vids that I made that day in HD will be posted later today and will make things clearer for all to see...
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eclypse

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Also please dont start trying to make adjustments on the set screw...This may cause problems that are unnecasary...The set shouldnt need adjustment... The set screw does not touch on the end, because if you look it is machined , so at its widest point(top Thread) it touches the cap...The slot in the end of the cap is there for air...If that wasnt there it would be virtually air tight, except for whatever air would come through the switch mechanism... The set screw will rarely NEED and adjustment as it fits only one way...If it is crooked the end cap will not go on properly and will require a side to side adjustment as witnessed in my famous video poted the other day...THe other vids that I made that day in HD will be posted later today and will make things clearer for all to see...
DRew

Well, it would be a bad day for a phone call over here with me alone taking care of my 9 month old and 4 year old kids. heh.

We did already have a talk pn the phone back when i first got the Xhaler as the 510 adapter was not shipped with the order. You explained how it worked to me in clarity then.

I guess a picture of the bottom of the inside of the cap would help verify that its correct.. and a messurement of the allen screw.

I'm thinking of taking a marker and scoring the bottom of the cap where it should make contact with the screw and close it up.. if it makes contact with the screw, the ink should end up on the screw. Then afterwards i could esily clean the ink off with some alcohol.
 

Drewsworld

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You could actually put the cap on(bateries OUT) take a dental probe and feel that it will not pass the scre except where the slot is...If that is the case it may very well need a new cap or set screw....Let me know....You can actually call me anytime...Actually its easier for me to take calls later at night most of the time...Thanks
DRew
 

eclypse

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Well i tried the long tooth pic and i cant get it to reach the center cause of the engle of the tip and skinny tube.

Anyways... i tried just using a thin piece of paper. With the screw normal (not tight or loose) it dont touch the end cap.

Then i gave it a few turns and tried the piece of paper threw the hole on the bottom to see if it gripping the screw as i close it and no.. I basicly ended up needing to have the screw most of the way out to finally make the connection.

Then i tried the voltage test under load with a 510 atty and 2 3v batts. Unloaded its reading 6.55v. With the cap tight and making contact with the end cap, its reading 5.40ish volts. With the end cap loose its reading the same.

?? I guess i'll try it again when i get a chance as my son is now awake.

EDIT: I guess a possable prob i'm having with loosing the allen screw is that it may not be lining up right with the bottom of the cap.. so maybe thats messing it up or something.
 
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eclypse

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Seen the newest videos posted XHALER VIDEO And instrutions to Come!!! .

Played with it and tried it again.. same results. Again i loosened the allen screw all the way to were it would just catch the thread and stay and tightened the cap and tried it again same results.

If the screw should touch the end cap with the screw snug.. how is it possable to loosen the screw all the way and tighten the end cap all the way with absolutly 0 resistance while tightening the cap as it should if it was touching. i've even checked the inside of the cap for scratch marks from the screw touching and theres none.

Could it be possable that my tube is too long or the hole cut for the switch too high? maybe the vinyl bubbled under the switch causing it to not lay flat against the tube and the switch is crooked?

Would love to post a video showing the screw all the way out and me tightening the cap all the way to show what i'm talking about but going threw all that and finding some software to compress it for you tube would take too much time.
 

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Have you tried to call Drew tonight? I am 100% positive he will make things right for you and fix your issue! I am not having this issue at all. As far os the video you can just upload to your picture files with camera software then right to youtube if under 8 min with no stress.. its very very easy!
He has been very patient and on the phone with a few others and guided them through many issues in the past and I am SURE he will do same for you.
Lori B
 

SurvivorMcGyver

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Hey Eclypse,
Help me to understand...You said you backed your allen screw all the way out and tightened the cap and it is not touching?

Vapes and works as advertised for me -- no need for technical testing other that pure vaping experience -- tight is less -- lose in more -- proven fact from my stand point -- no need to Mcgyver here

Hope everything works out for you E! Drew will gett to ya -- have patience
 
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Mosin

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Played with it and tried it again.. same results. Again i loosened the allen screw all the way to were it would just catch the thread and stay and tightened the cap and tried it again same results.

If the screw should touch the end cap with the screw snug.. how is it possable to loosen the screw all the way and tighten the end cap all the way with absolutly 0 resistance while tightening the cap as it should if it was touching. i've even checked the inside of the cap for scratch marks from the screw touching and theres none.

Could it be possable that my tube is too long or the hole cut for the switch too high? maybe the vinyl bubbled under the switch causing it to not lay flat against the tube and the switch is crooked?

I'm still having the exact same problem after watching the video twice and trying all possible adjustments. I get nothing but 6.6v with the cap in any position. It seems to be that the hole in the cap is machined too deep, or the set screw is too short to make contact. Any additional tips/tricks would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
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