Problems getting vapour and flavour

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Scotticus93

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I have an eleaf iStick 30W set at 16W/5.5V with a kanger aerotank using 1.8ohm VOCC.

The problem is that I don't get a lot of vapour or flavour. Any suggestions?
To be blunt. I would upgrade to a kanger subtank personally. Its a much better built tank with better airflow. Shouldnt be that expensive. Just my two cents. Aerotank is kind of outdated now.
 

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Flavor and vapor are two factors based on two different methods. You get flavors based off of what eliquid you're using and what temperatures really make those flavors pop.

Vapor is based off of resistance, cotton, and partially if you're using max VG or a mix of PG VG.

The method you're using is fine. But if you want something cheap and cheerful, that has the option to flex between vapor and flavor, I'd suggest a basica kbox starter kit. The kbox nano tanks come in options 1.5ohm and .5 ohms so you can sub ohm (with the .5 ohm), at a higher wattage with great vapor. And get great flavor out of the 1.5 ohms that'll give you that great mouth-to-lung hit you get with the 1.8ohm.

What kind of eliquid do you have?
 

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When starting my vape low, I find that the wattage that works for me is usually 1 to 2 watts over the lowest watt setting (where i can barely see the vape cloud on the exhale). Lower watt settings lessen the chance of burning the liquid and generates the best flavor IMO. This formula applies to non sub ohm'g YMMV (1.0 ohm is iffy non sub ohm'g--2.0 ohm's here).
After I get my Atty (coil and chamber heat up) going for awhile, I will often times turn the mod down a watt or so to see if I can taste more flavor. I'm often surprised at how much better the vape is by lowering the vape temp/wattage.
 

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You may want to raise your wattage just a little. Maybe try to gradually work up to 20 -25 watts. If raising the watts doesn't help then I would think about getting a new tank. A decent inexpensive tank is the Cubis. Good Flavor, top fill and tons of vapor. My brother loves his because it does not leak and a 5 pack of coils is under $10. His coils last almost a month.
 

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Hello, welcome to ECF.
Your istick 30 will allow for a resistance of down to 0.5ohms.
More performance, better flavour and clouds are generally achieved at lower resistance levels.
An isub tank might be a good option for you.
As others have stated, what you are using was a great tank a few years back. We've come a long way from there. Cheers.
 
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That is my exact "old setup" that I have sitting next to me right now.

My settings are 4.9V 13W and I'm getting as good flavour as it can dish out.

DO NOT increase the wattage too much, those coils can only handle so much or you'll burn them instantly.

I used this tank for many months and enjoyed it quite fine but at some point, I wanted more.. as the testers in stores where giving a fuller flavour when tried, so I went with a sub-Ohm mod kit (I went with the Eleaf TC60W with the Melo2) and never really looked back.

The reality is that while it's a great tank, it's very limited, simply, the coils are just too small. The big advantage though, is it doesn't go through juice all that fast because of it.

I did go and got the lowest Ohm coils they have and it does help a bit, but again, make sure you go find the maximum settings for the coils on their site. (the 0.8Ohm are 3.1 -3.6 V).

I still use my old rig once in a blue moon, but I can see the difference very easily.
 
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What can I say...

There is only so high you can push VOCC, SOCC, TOCC coils.
They are not the same as OCC subtank coils or the latest SSOCC subtank coils.

With SOCC, you'd be hard pushed to go past 12 watts.
VOCC should go higher, but not a lot.

If you are running it at 16w and not getting nasty burned taste and there is little vapor or flavor, I would rather unhelpfully call that flogging a dead horse.

Everybody had difference experiences with these technology tanks (some good, some bad), but other than a genuine problem with the atomizer head or mod itself, you may have hit a barrier.

I thought it was one of the worst things ever myself, (and the Protank 3 series) but that doesn't mean many, many people thought the Aerotank was Kanger's best effort at the time and still love it.
With the right juice ratio and careful power, it should be OK.... :)

Maybe you just have a dreadful factory coil.
 

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Isn't the Aerotank for tooting ?. I am pretty sure it was never designed to produce a substantial cloud. And usually these tanks will only produce a decent flavour for a day or two at most. Then it begins to taste rather dull. Turning up the volts/watts isn't going to help. You'll just have to make do with what that tank is capable of, and obviously change out the coils more regularly if you can. Other than that there is no solution.
 

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    ^^-- Tootling, not tooting. As in Tootle Puffer. Mouth to Lung.


    I wasn't impressed with the Aero -- actually I'm considering putting it back into use, but with a single coil. My RDA blows it away at the exact same power level in both flavor and vapor, and my fleet of $2 generic EVOD clearos blow it away in flavor at 5.5 watts and a tiny stick battery, with about a third as much juice consumption. About the only thing I can say in favor of the dual coil Kanger series is they have a clean taste, but otherwise they're kind of a black hole, power and juice go in, but not enough comes out.
     
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    Isn't the Aerotank for tooting ?. I am pretty sure it was never designed to produce a substantial cloud. And usually these tanks will only produce a decent flavour for a day or two at most. Then it begins to taste rather dull. Turning up the volts/watts isn't going to help. You'll just have to make do with what that tank is capable of, and obviously change out the coils more regularly if you can. Other than that there is no solution.

    Um... You are right!

    I think I just had a very British chuckle at that comment. :)
     

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    Isn't the Aerotank for tooting ?. I am pretty sure it was never designed to produce a substantial cloud. And usually these tanks will only produce a decent flavour for a day or two at most. Then it begins to taste rather dull. Turning up the volts/watts isn't going to help. You'll just have to make do with what that tank is capable of, and obviously change out the coils more regularly if you can. Other than that there is no solution.

    LOL... "tooting".

    And you're right, while my Aerotank would kill my wife's Nautilus in terms of... cloud production, flavour, ease of use, air flow, refilling... aw heck, everything was better with it, it's simply not a cloud chaser tank.

    But I'd go with a good week, depending on the liquid used and the settings. Some coils lasted me a good week, even two, others just a few days... the biggest thing with them is simply how small the coils one, but they are "tooters" after all.

    Now, my wife and daughter (who's followed us into the realm of vaping) who both went from the Nautilus, to the Aerotank, to the Melo2, both agree (and I do too) that it's been a great evolution, and you look back and see how much better vaping has gotten.
     
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    evan le'garde

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    LOL... "tooting".

    And you're right, while my Aerotank would kill my wife's Nautilus in terms of... cloud production, flavour, ease of use, air flow, refilling... aw heck, everything was better with it, it's simply not a cloud chaser tank.

    But I'd go with a good week, depending on the liquid used and the settings. Some coils lasted me a good week, even two, others just a few days... the biggest thing with them is simply how small the coils one, but they are "tooters" after all.

    Now, my wife and daughter (who's followed us into the realm of vaping) who both went from the Nautilus, to the Aerotank, to the Melo2, both agree (and I do too) that it's been a great evolution, and you look back and see how much better vaping has gotten.


    Yeah, it's the RTA's that have taken off into the stratosphere.

    My search for a decent tooting tank ended when i got my hideously expensive Kayfun V4.

    Still hitting my Zephyrus with a quad coil assembly though. God that thing took ages to get the hang of. Damn difficult to wick. Got a good handle on it now though. Can even make adjustments when the tank is half full. Plenty of people found fault with this RTA. And you know how a tank can perform better when it's either full or half full or whatever ?. I only half fill the Zephyrus and so have no difficulty making adjustments when i need to. Well, i did need to, now though, i can wick this little pocket rocket with no problems. Plus i get fed up with an entire tank of one flavour, so prefer half tanks at a time.
     

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    Yeah, it's the RTA's that have taken off into the stratosphere.

    My search for a decent tooting tank ended when i got my hideously expensive Kayfun V4.

    Still hitting my Zephyrus with a quad coil assembly though. God that thing took ages to get the hang of. Damn difficult to wick. Got a good handle on it now though. Can even make adjustments when the tank is half full. Plenty of people found fault with this RTA. And you know how a tank can perform better when it's either full or half full or whatever ?. I only half fill the Zephyrus and so have no difficulty making adjustments when i need to. Well, i did need to, now though, i can wick this little pocket rocket with no problems. Plus i get fed up with an entire tank of one flavour, so prefer half tanks at a time.

    Quad coil... half a tank.. that's what? three puffs? :p
     

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    You may want to raise your wattage just a little. Maybe try to gradually work up to 20 -25 watts. If raising the watts doesn't help then I would think about getting a new tank. A decent inexpensive tank is the Cubis. Good Flavor, top fill and tons of vapor. My brother loves his because it does not leak and a 5 pack of coils is under $10. His coils last almost a month.
    When you say his cubis coils last almost a month, do mean one coil or the whole 5-pack?
     
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    each coil, so a 5 pack will last him 5 months, unless he accidentally burns one.
    Woah, I feel lucky when my coils last over a week lol! Most of my cubis coils burns up around 5-7 days. But then again this could be because i'm using the eGo AIO where I can't change the amount of power being regulated. What kind of juice is your brother using and whats the watts he's vaping on? I intend to buy the cubis and a boxmod once i'm ready :D
     
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    Woah, I feel lucky when my coils last over a week lol! Most of my cubis coils burns up around 5-7 days. But then again this could be because i'm using the eGo AIO where I can't change the amount of power being regulated. What kind of juice is your brother using and whats the watts he's vaping on? I intend to buy the cubis and a boxmod once i'm ready :D
    He is using the .5 ohm coil at 25 watts. I diy his juice 70/30. If you are using a really sweet juice it can gunk up your coils and they won't last as long. The higher ohm coils don't last as long either. We use ours on the Cuboid.
     
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