Problems using MF cartos with certain juice vendors

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PGA is pure grain alcohol, such as Everclear or high quality vodka. I prefer to use PGA over distilled water. How much to use really depends on the juice. Start with a few drops & shake it up good. If you have a juice that you think wicks well, take note of it's consistency. Try & thin out the others based on that juice. The good thing about PGA, is that if you do go a little too far, you can leave the bottle open, & it will evaporate. Try not to thin it too much though!

AG, I gotta say, love the name, and 5,000 post in under 6 months is DAMN impressive. :thumb:
 

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thanks for all the tips! so, the condom fill method,,, i fill the condom up how far? halfway? all the way full? then slowwwwwly submerge the battery end into it? then drip some drops on the top? may i ask, what is the "thermometer shake"? i guess i've been so used to do the taryn spin for so long, i never really stopped to learn any other methods,, but that's surely interesting and i'm SOOO hoping that this will cure my misery of not being able to fully appreciate these juices with the MF cartos! thanks!
 

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I count 15-18 drops, which is about a 1/2 filled condom, and slowly push the battery end into it. I also take the cap off the mouth end so I can watch to see it come up to the top. If it doesn't, I'll add more to the condom and do it again.

I don't spin or shake afterwards, but if you do want to use the thermometer shake, that would be to hold the carto from the battery end and do like you are shaking the old glass thermometer. Like cracking a whip with your wrist doing sharp downward motion, to force the juice down. Or if you're gonna use the spin instead, then put it in the pouch with the mouth end down.
 

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Actually, I use the thermometer shake after I've already bottom-loaded and while trying to drip thick juice in the mouthpiece end.

- load condom half full and slowly push battery end down.
- remove the plain condom and insert the .... plug condom
- drip 3-4 drops in the mouth piece end while rotating the carto.
- thermometer shake while holding the mouth piece end (fingers on the condom so it doesn't fly off). The goal here is to get the thick juice floating on top of the polyfill to push down into the polyfill
- 3-4 more drips and one more thermometer shake
- replace rubber mouthpiece, remove .... plug, wipe it clean and vape. :)
 

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thanks so much for all your help guys! one thing though,,,, i tried the condom fill from the bottom method,,, maybe i'm doing something wrong? it seems QUITE messy... in other words,, using a condom (no buttplug side) from the original bloog cartomizer, and filling it halfway full, and pushing the battery down verrrry slowlly,,, i seem to get a lot of liquid that is rising up on the sides of the condom and squeezing out of the sides,, resulting in a verrrry messy cartomizer that i have to wipe off... seems like i'm wasting a lot of liquid this way... what am i doing wrong? thanks ;)
 

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Gosh, I just:
1 - remove soft cap
2 - drop (2 drops at a time) into the interior carto wall while holding the carto at 45º
3 - rotate the carto 90º and repeat n2 until carto is full (30 drops).
4 - replace soft cap
5 - (don't even need this anymore, but it's essential for beginners) wipe battery end and/or gently blow through mouthpiece while holding a tissue over battery end

The whole thing takes something like 20 seconds.
 

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it seems QUITE messy... in other words,, using a condom (no buttplug side) from the original bloog cartomizer, and filling it halfway full, and pushing the battery down verrrry slowlly,,, i seem to get a lot of liquid that is rising up on the sides of the condom and squeezing out of the sides,, resulting in a verrrry messy cartomizer that i have to wipe off... seems like i'm wasting a lot of liquid this way... what am i doing wrong? thanks ;)

This happened to me once, and it's because I accidentally used the condom that had the plug in it. You need to use the plain one. Does that help, or is this happening with the plain one?

The only other thing I can think of is to hold the carto on the sides as you push down. if you put your finger over the mouth end opening, it causes an airlock/pressure so the juice won't load as easily.
 

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I'll see a little juice around the sides, but I have never had juice actually come out up the sides. It sounds like it fits too loose. Find one with a snugger fit if you can.

pmos: the dripping from the top works good with thinner juices, but for the thick ones doing the bottom fill seems to work better as we are forcing it up into the filler rather than waiting for it to soak in. I used the drip/spin method when I first got the vaperite 50/50 and it didn't work as well as bottom filling.
 

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Using the bottom fill method on BMF cartos seems to more closely approximate the original TH and draw of carto, imho.
I use a sharp T pin and poke the filler and fluff it up after bottom fill and then drip a few drops on top.
It's so different that hubby (actually) learned how to do it himself in case he ran across ones I had top filled for him.

I have only used Vapor Station juice and experimented with adding a few drops unflavored PG to any flavors that didn't draw as well as others did, and that seemed to help.
 
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