Prodigy and Chuck. Same thing?

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McCordRM

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I realize the Chuck is handcrafted, etc.
What I'm asking if these are basicaly the same in regards to longevity?

What I'm looking for in my first E-Cig is:
1. The whistle/pipe tip.
2. The ability to give good "throat burn" and vapor.
3. However one rates "life of product" with these things. I'm still trying to
figure that out.

My understanding of the Chuck (from what I've read) is that THAT piece
of the E-Cig is pretty durable and doesn't "go out" like the atomizers and
batteries. Is this correct? And if I went with the Chuck (since it can be
customized) what other parts are good to use with it to meet the above
objectives?

P.S.
I'm military, so use small words. <Grin>
 

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Okie, here's the scoop:

The Chuck is basically a big manual battery with a few significant differences from your regular manual batteries (like you get in an e-cig kit):

1. The ability to run at 3.7v or 6v. 6.v is supposed to deliver more vapor and a better throat hit. I say "supposed to" because I don't have a high voltage mod, or any mod for that matter, because I'm poor.

2. It's built like a brick house, although you still shouldn't do anything silly with it like intentionally drop it.

3. It takes rechargeable batteries that you can buy cheaply online or (I assume) at a local electronics store like Radio Shack. This is good because rechargeable batteries are fundamentally disposable and because you can just swap batteries when your Chuck runs low, much like you would with a flashlight.

4. The batteries last WAY longer than your typical e-cig battery.

The atomizer factor isn't changed by a mod. It still uses your standard 510, 901, or 801 attys. I've read that the high volts will burn through an atomizer quicker than the standard 3.7 ish volts, but again, I can't confirm this. I would assume that with the cost savings in batteries, even if you blow through attys at a faster pace, you'll save money in the long run. Attys are cheap, especially if you buy in bulk.


Hope this helps.
 

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They are very much different.

1st however, it is important to realize that all of these mods are simply battery tubes that you attach an atomizer to. But aside from that, each have a special reason for people to love them.

I'll make it simple on this comparison...

Prodigy:
Vapes at 5v, which is perfect for intense flavor, warm vapor, and an all-around great experience.
Switch is semi-recessed and glides with a quality feel. Also not prone to breakage if dropped.


Chuck:
Vapes at 6v or 3.7v (little Chuck only at 3.7 I believe)
Can be customized with silkscreens or paint
Big, heavy tube with 5 cent switch. The switch can be broken if you drop the device.


That's as simple as I can make it. On the long list of PV's available, the Chuck is on the absolute bottom for me personally. While the Prodigy is indeed large, the Chucks are just unrealistically big as compared to devices in the same price range that perform just like them. If they ever put the time into developing a new switch (or just adopting a pre-existing one) that's of higher quality, the Chuck might be a more viable contender.
 

McCordRM

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OK, so this brings up a few more questions: (sorry for coming across as such a newb...
I am one.)

1. So, if I got the Chuck, what is the real difference between the 510, 901, or 801
atomizers? The E-Cig units I've seen look different for each model... but if I get the
Chuck, wouldn't it look basically the same regardless?

2. Thanks for the suggestions on other devices... but what's with the price on the
Silver Bullet, Prodigy and BB? WOW.

3. I'm looking at the buttons (I plan to go manual after researching a bit) and I see
what you mean about the button on the Chuck. I've also looked at Vapornine's device.
Of the ones I've seen, the Protege seems to have the most durable looking button.

4. So... I'm assuming with these devices I can't just throw a Duracell in them?

5. The E-Pipe. I'm certainly going to miss my real pipe, so are these any good?

Thanks again!
 

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I (still) smoke a pipe too. I think the differences between an ecig and an anolog aren't as great as the difference between a pipe and an epipe. Basically, a pipe is going to be much different than it's electronic counterpart. There are many reasons why i haven't bought an epipe. Mostly, i just love the quality of burl in the pipes in my collection (which i inherited). I'm a fan of both technology and beauty.
 

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Get a Chuck if you want your own custom design. I was pretty much set on a Silver Bullet because of the recessed switch, but the lure of customization won out. The switch won't be a problem if you're careful and know how to solder (at least it's field-replaceable friendly). If you wanna stick it in your pocket, unscrew the atty a touch. No big deal.
 

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If you want to do the Chuck mainly at 6v go with 891 atty connector type. less burnt taste than using the 510 or 901.

If you want to use the Chuck at 3.7v Id say 510 or 901 atty type.

The 801s will hold more eliquid and give a cooler vape at 6v.

The Chuck is a solid built tank!

Little Chuck is 3.7 only whereas the CHUCK is 6v or 3.7

Go with big Chuck so you can do both.. IMO
 

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OK, so this brings up a few more questions: (sorry for coming across as such a newb...
I am one.)

1. So, if I got the Chuck, what is the real difference between the 510, 901, or 801
atomizers? The E-Cig units I've seen look different for each model... but if I get the
Chuck, wouldn't it look basically the same regardless?

510: Warmest vapor. Most throat hit. Most flavor
901: Warm vapor. So-so throat hit. Good amount of flavor.
801: Cool temp vapor. Almost no throat hit. Weakest flavor of the three choices.


2. Thanks for the suggestions on other devices... but what's with the price on the
Silver Bullet, Prodigy and BB? WOW.

SB is about the same price (within $10) and superior in every possible way
BB is cheaper
Prodigy is more expensive
GG-T is more expensive by a lot, but you get what you pay for (3 devices in one)
Protege is about the same price, but far superior materials (stainless) and switch)
VP2 is about the same price

The Chuck is not the cheapest solution, although they do tend to 'look' the cheapest when you compare them to others.



3. I'm looking at the buttons (I plan to go manual after researching a bit) and I see
what you mean about the button on the Chuck. I've also looked at Vapornine's device.
Of the ones I've seen, the Protege seems to have the most durable looking button.

SB has the best switch available
BB/Prodigy/Protege right behind the SB
GG-T switch protrudes like the Chuck, but doesn't break if dropped like the Chuck, and also locks unlike the Chuck


4. So... I'm assuming with these devices I can't just throw a Duracell in them?


Uhhhh, no. Li-Ion rechargeables only.

5. The E-Pipe. I'm certainly going to miss my real pipe, so are these any good?

Thanks again!

Hope that helped.
 

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I realize the Chuck is handcrafted, etc.
What I'm asking if these are basicaly the same in regards to longevity?

What I'm looking for in my first E-Cig is:
1. The whistle/pipe tip.
2. The ability to give good "throat burn" and vapor.
3. However one rates "life of product" with these things. I'm still trying to
figure that out.

My understanding of the Chuck (from what I've read) is that THAT piece
of the E-Cig is pretty durable and doesn't "go out" like the atomizers and
batteries. Is this correct? And if I went with the Chuck (since it can be
customized) what other parts are good to use with it to meet the above
objectives?

P.S.
I'm military, so use small words. <Grin>

Completely two different units
 

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They are very much different.

1st however, it is important to realize that all of these mods are simply battery tubes that you attach an atomizer to. But aside from that, each have a special reason for people to love them.

I'll make it simple on this comparison...

Prodigy:
Vapes at 5v, which is perfect for intense flavor, warm vapor, and an all-around great experience.
Switch is semi-recessed and glides with a quality feel. Also not prone to breakage if dropped.


Chuck:
Vapes at 6v or 3.7v (little Chuck only at 3.7 I believe)
Can be customized with silkscreens or paint
Big, heavy tube with 5 cent switch. The switch can be broken if you drop the device.


That's as simple as I can make it. On the long list of PV's available, the Chuck is on the absolute bottom for me personally. While the Prodigy is indeed large, the Chucks are just unrealistically big as compared to devices in the same price range that perform just like them. If they ever put the time into developing a new switch (or just adopting a pre-existing one) that's of higher quality, the Chuck might be a more viable contender.
WELL OUR 5 CENT SWITCH'S DON'T STICK!!! :evil::evil: Find a negative thread on the Chuck!!!! OPPS thier are none never mind8-o
 

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First of all, I don't own any of these. Like you said before, ultimately they are battery holders with switches and atomizer connections. I think "far superior" is a bit of an overstatement. The switch on the chuck is not the greatest. The SB and BB seem to have good switches, but as far as puresmoker products, I see a lot of issues people are having with swiches. Not to say that puresmoker wouldn't do everything they can to service their customers, but there are issues. So "Far superior" it is not. Oh, I left out the GG. Everything associated with the GG comes off to me as pompous and arrogant, and the only thing far superior is the price. Not trying to rub anyone the wrong way this is just my interpretation.
 
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WELL OUR 5 CENT SWITCH'S DON'T STICK!!! :evil::evil: Find a negative thread on the Chuck!!!! OPPS thier are none never mind8-o


Probably the thread where Zofryer talked about dropping his one day old Chuck and destroying the switch on contact. That might count huh?

Listen, we've all seen your blind-love posts for the Chuck, we know you love it, we know what you'll say before you say it, and we know you're the rudest of all Chuck supporters... so get over it and let the adults talk here.

First of all, I don't own any of these. Like you said before, ultimately they are battery holders with switches and atomizer connections. I think "far superior" is a bit of an overstatement. The switch on the chuck is not the greatest. The SB and BB seem to have good switches, but as far as puresmoker products, I see a lot of issues people are having with swiches. Not to say that puresmoker wouldn't do everything they can to service their customers, but there are issues. So "Far superior" is a matter of opinion. Oh, I left out the GG. Everything associated with the GG comes off to me as pompous and arrogant, and the only thing far superior is the price. Not trying to rub anyone the wrong way this is just my interpretation.


No, far superior is certainly applicable here.

3mm thick Aircraft grade 6061 aluminum used in the SB is far superior to the standard cheap aluminum bodies of the Chuck and many other mods.

The sure-touch, recessed switch in the SB with the safety vent under it is in every way far superior to the Radio Shack special switch in the Chuck.

The finishing (and I don't mean just the polish) of the SB is in every way superior. Once you screw the body together for the first time and feel the threads gliding together, you'll know the quality difference.

And as far as the GG-T goes, name one other device that:

Supports 6 different types of batteries
Vapes at 3.7 and 6v in 3 different sizes from large to medium to insanely small
Is wholly mechanical with no electrical and no soldering

No device does everything (or even anything) that the GG-T does. I agree it is expensive, but when you break it down you have to buy 3 devices to do what the GG-T does, so it comes out cheaper when you think about it.
 

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Probably the thread where Zofryer talked about dropping his one day old Chuck and destroying the switch on contact. That might count huh?

Listen, we've all seen your blind-love posts for the Chuck, we know you love it, we know what you'll say before you say it, and we know you're the rudest of all Chuck supporters... so get over it and let the adults talk here.




No, far superior is certainly applicable here.

3mm thick Aircraft grade 6061 aluminum used in the SB is far superior to the standard cheap aluminum bodies of the Chuck and many other mods.

The sure-touch, recessed switch in the SB with the safety vent under it is in every way far superior to the Radio Shack special switch in the Chuck.

The finishing (and I don't mean just the polish) of the SB is in every way superior. Once you screw the body together for the first time and feel the threads gliding together, you'll know the quality difference.

And as far as the GG-T goes, name one other device that:

Supports 6 different types of batteries
Vapes at 3.7 and 6v in 3 different sizes from large to medium to insanely small
Is wholly mechanical with no electrical and no soldering

No device does everything (or even anything) that the GG-T does. I agree it is expensive, but when you break it down you have to buy 3 devices to do what the GG-T does, so it comes out cheaper when you think about it.
HUG my CHUCK:evil: YOUR A IDIOT! Chucks are copper
 
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