AB: I was just thinking the same thought. Possibly getting rid of the notifications. That would save some memory. Right?
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First of all I think almost everyone will be using Titanium wire. If you can get the auto detection on there it's a good thing to have but I'd rather have one without it sooner than later.
soul: Agreed! And I have complete faith that Imeo is way ahead of my concerns and it's going to be functionally awesome. As always..
Getting rid of notifications would mean doing another round of removing code, retesting, adding code, retesting. Can you wait another 4 months for that?
There's also a big elephant in the room that no one is talking about anymore -- from a IP legal perspective, VIR and Proteus need to be released. Delays and feature chasing could have some very serious consequences on the marketability of the features that work.
I want Proteus to make it to market even if it's only with VIR version 1. If it is a hit, Imeo will release V2 later.
I am hopeful I will love VIR but there's a big chance some will not. No micro coils, no VW, no kanthal, different vape technique, etc could turn people off who are set in their ways.
I think this will be a game changer for those of us who want a safer vapor. But there are many more folks who just don't care -- and there are competitors in the market who might try to shut down an amazing step forward.
Proteus will be released with VIR V1. I'll be one of the first. I can afford $250 to be one of the first even if the tech changes later. I wasted $7000 a year on analogs. Some day I'll likely say I wasted $1500 a year on old kanthal equipment.
There's also a big elephant in the room that no one is talking about anymore -- from a IP legal perspective, VIR and Proteus need to be released. Delays and feature chasing could have some very serious consequences on the marketability of the features that work.
I want Proteus to make it to market even if it's only with VIR version 1. If it is a hit, Imeo will release V2 later.
I am hopeful I will love VIR but there's a big chance some will not. No micro coils, no VW, no kanthal, different vape technique, etc could turn people off who are set in their ways.
I think this will be a game changer for those of us who want a safer vapor. But there are many more folks who just don't care -- and there are competitors in the market who might try to shut down an amazing step forward.
Proteus will be released with VIR V1. I'll be one of the first. I can afford $250 to be one of the first even if the tech changes later. I wasted $7000 a year on analogs. Some day I'll likely say I wasted $1500 a year on old kanthal equipment.
I should also mention that Imeo has stated that VIR will be the end to vape enhancements. He doesn't mean that VIR V1 will be the final technological miracle, just that the technology base will be what is needed to make a more perfect vape.
The idea of constantly inquiring the coil of its temperature is a game changer. That is what VIR mode is, as defined most basically.
But what VIR mode electronics can do in the future, and what metals it will support, is to be seen in the future.
VIR is not a device specifically, it is a MODE of operation. Modes are VV, VW and VIR. Proteus will only run in VIR mode, but future chips will likely run in VIR with more options.
The idea of constantly inquiring the coil of its temperature is a game changer. That is what VIR mode is, as defined most basically.
But what VIR mode electronics can do in the future, and what metals it will support, is to be seen in the future.
VIR is not a device specifically, it is a MODE of operation. Modes are VV, VW and VIR. Proteus will only run in VIR mode, but future chips will likely run in VIR with more options.
exactly that Sad. The only that will be missing (if its finally missing) is this function.
Of course it will detect ohms and it will do all the rest. The only difference is that it will vape Ti only. But lets not be in a hurry. Maybe I will finally manage to put SS wire too there.
The advantage is that all functions are automatic 67. New technology at its best! There is no need to know what wire you put on your atomizer.
without autodetection there is no need to put the material type AB. You will only vape Ti
Yep, that was what I was stating to 67 exactly. For me, personally, I think I'd rather stick with Ti grade 1 from a known source rather than deal with SS anyway. I don't care if SS is supported in a future chipset -- as long as we aren't capable of running Ti over the oxidation temperature, it isn't a concern for me. And as long as i'll be able to get my Ti grade 1 supply from a reputable dealer in the States, I care even less about SS support.
Getting rid of notifications would mean doing another round of removing code, retesting, adding code, retesting. Can you wait another 4 months for that? If it takes that long its useless AB. It will only take a few days
There's also a big elephant in the room that no one is talking about anymore -- from a IP legal perspective, VIR and Proteus need to be released. Delays and feature chasing could have some very serious consequences on the marketability of the features that work.
agree
I want Proteus to make it to market even if it's only with VIR version 1. If it is a hit, Imeo will release V2 later. agree
I am hopeful I will love VIR but there's a big chance some will not. No micro coils, no VW, no kanthal, different vape technique, etc could turn people off who are set in their ways. kanthal is just a wire, so nothing special. Microcoil is a regular coil with not so close threads, so nothing special too. VW is totally useless if you have Temp function (you raise temp, so its like you raise watt but without the danger of burn taste). Also there is no difference in vaping technique
I think this will be a game changer for those of us who want a safer vapor. But there are many more folks who just don't care -- and there are competitors in the market who might try to shut down an amazing step forward. agree
Proteus will be released with VIR V1. I'll be one of the first. I can afford $250 to be one of the first even if the tech changes later. I wasted $7000 a year on analogs. Some day I'll likely say I wasted $1500 a year on old kanthal equipment.
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To my opinion, features are nothing if they dont work well AB, so we agree here. I have to give you a perfect temp control rather than give you a lot of functions but some of them dont work very well.
That's why I want the Proteus -- all I care about is temperature control, and not just temperature limiting.
A proper temperature control device will reduce temperature as e-liquid fails to wick, and also prevent wasted energy released from the battery.
I don't need an OLED display. I don't care about knowing what resistance my coil is (resistance changes anyway based on joules). I don't want to use kanthal anymore, but I don't trust Ti in a VW or VV regulated mod (and even less trustworthy in a mech unregulated).
The only feature I would love, and I wouldn't expect it to ever happen, would be for the LED light to display for the first second of vaping with a color that correlates to remaining battery power. So a fresh battery, the button would light for a second as green, a battery at 3.7 would light it as yellow, and a battery at 3.4 would light it as red. This is only because I like being ready to swap a battery before it runs out! But that is not a feature request of any kind, just an idea.
A proper temperature control device will reduce temperature as e-liquid fails to wick, and also prevent wasted energy released from the battery.
I don't need an OLED display. I don't care about knowing what resistance my coil is (resistance changes anyway based on joules). I don't want to use kanthal anymore, but I don't trust Ti in a VW or VV regulated mod (and even less trustworthy in a mech unregulated).
The only feature I would love, and I wouldn't expect it to ever happen, would be for the LED light to display for the first second of vaping with a color that correlates to remaining battery power. So a fresh battery, the button would light for a second as green, a battery at 3.7 would light it as yellow, and a battery at 3.4 would light it as red. This is only because I like being ready to swap a battery before it runs out! But that is not a feature request of any kind, just an idea.
We've been waiting on VIR for what? At least 2 yrs? Imeo you keep saying a few day or next wk, and now your saying back to the drawing board? I'm losing faith but holding onto hope that this will actually hit the market this yr... I'll check back in 4 months and keep on trucking with my DNA 40 that is working awesome. I just wish you would just release it as competition and choices are good for the market and the consumer. Good luck to you Imeo
We've been waiting on VIR for what? At least 2 yrs? Imeo you keep saying a few day or next wk, and now your saying back to the drawing board? I'm losing faith but holding onto hope that this will actually hit the market this yr... I'll check back in 4 months and keep on trucking with my DNA 40 that is working awesome. I just wish you would just release it as competition and choices are good for the market and the consumer. Good luck to you Imeo
Maybe you have trouble reading but he said 2 pages back that the list will close tomorrow and preorder will start a week later.
While this excites me, I also know that people who committed to a position will either not pay on time (delaying everyone else), or will find another way to create a delay. I've bought in a bunch of pre-orders in the past, and I've seen OEMs get slaughtered because they can't go public and say "These specific people haven't paid, so they are holding everyone else up."
I like how Imeo is putting the pre-orders into the hands of the resellers rather than doing it all himself. We buy from resellers who all send their wholesale cost to Imeo who begins production. Less for him to juggle, and more parties to hold accountable.
very nice "battery feature" AB. I have thought of it
But it cant be done. The reason is that Temp control works different than VV-VW devices. What I mean is that even if battery is full but your atomizer is overflooded or very very saturated, the watts will go so high that battery will not be able to handle them. So a green led for battery at 4,2 volts will be useless because battery may go immediately to 3,4 volt with only one push
very nice "battery feature" AB. I have thought of it
But it cant be done. The reason is that Temp control works different than VV-VW devices. What I mean is that even if battery is full but your atomizer is overflooded or very very saturated, the watts will go so high that battery will not be able to handle them. So a green led for battery at 4,2 volts will be useless because battery may go immediately to 3,4 volt with only one push
Actually, it could technically be done with one catch: it would only show the voltage prior to energizing the coils.
Basically, upon VIR receiving the signal to fire, it goes and does its sampling (at 1000 times a second or whatever). The initial sample or samples (maybe 1, maybe 2 dozen, but only the initial ones) would read the battery BEFORE energizing the coils.
This battery reading would at least tell the user where the battery was before energizing. If the battery happens to drop in voltage due to flooding, it wouldn't matter for THIS read. The next energizing stage would show a lower battery reading before energizing the second press.
I don't know what LED unit you are using, but you could technically have "infinite" colors in the spectrum from greed to yellow to orange to red for the pre-energizing battery storage level. Again, not a feature request, just something I would love to have on ANY device I use. I hate LED readouts, they are far too time consuming to deal with. A colored LED reporting battery storage would be great just because I could read it peripherally.
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I'm assuming you're new here because Imeo has made countless preorders throughout the years and from what I can recall there has never been a serious problem from his side.
Oh, I'm aware of that, but part of my concern is that the extensive engineering time frame up to now may have created some disconnect with those excited about specific features that may not make it into the initial product release (or ever).
This isn't like other pre-orders (mech mods, atomizers, etc). This is different. I know some Penelope V1/V2 customers that are on the fence about Proteus. I say just get the Proteus and a V3 and be done with it -- it will likely be a game changer, why worry about old technology you've used for 1-2 years already?
we already have 2 working leds while vaping AB. One of them shows you that you vape lower because battery cant give the nessesary current and the other led shows you that you run out of liquid. One more led would be annoying
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