i ordered on the old site and also paid on a tuesday but there is a possibility they wont ship until wednesday for us either. thats okay with me as i am headed out of town on friday.Thanks for the notice. Protovapor just posted an update on their site stating that the lead times have been pushed back a little:
Orders that were ordered on the old site using the form, that have been paid via the new payment gateway: 5-7 business days from payment.
Orders that are ordered and paid entirely on the new site via the new payment gateway: 10-20 business days from payment.
I placed my order on Tuesday 2/18, which would mean Monday 2/24 would be my 5th day since payment.
Alsooo, I saw that they don't operate nor ship on Saturdays. I'm glad; they deserve a relaxing, stress-free weekend since they have created such a beautiful thing.
Here's to hoping
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Wait.. I put a KFL+ and some spares in my cart, and was browsing to see if there was anything else I should get while I was there, and... Their store crashed. Why do I think they won't have any left once they fix it?
It seems the vaperev shop site is down. Can't get to it on my phone or computer. Most be to many people trying to get one.
They're $99, which I find pretty good considering the Made-in-China R91 has a minimum advertised price of $92.50..
Their store came back up, with my cart intact. So my order is now placed.
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I just ordered one too. It's my first rebuildable i've bought so far. I was thinking about buying the limited edition stainless steel R91 but now i'm glad I didn't. Really excited to see what all the fuss is about.
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You'll love it. If you've never built a coil before, here is a video of a very basic and very easy coil to build.
Once you're used to that, you can try some of the more exotic coils, but this one fits my needs for now.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sic-starter-build-kayfun-newbies-like-me.html
Once you're used to that, you can try some of the more exotic coils, but this one fits my needs for now.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sic-starter-build-kayfun-newbies-like-me.html
So the payment for my protovapor was taken from my account on 2/20... This could be good right???? And for some reason I just bought a kayfun...cause I need 8 rbas........... OMFG THE BIG NASTY... TIME TO BUY ANOTHER MOD!!!!
only in vaping is this considered "honorable"- the russian91 is no more a blatant "rip-off" than any other product. it is an evolution of the kayfun(and even forced kayfun to respond with the kayfun lite plus). do you own carrier air conditioning? after all , mr carrier invented
it and everything made after that must be considered a rip-off. except, that is not how business works. i prefer my r91 over the original kfl- it is a better product and and is cheaper and more readily available. i don't spend my $$ paying some imaginary homage when other products come along that are less expensive and improved. like i said in the beginning, somehow that is considered ok in vaping when it is ignored in every other aspect of our commercial life. i own a samsung tv and i am pretty sure they didn't invent it. maytag washing machine. whirplool refrigerator- well , you get the idea... why should anyone buy a hard-to-get kayfun when there is something better and already for sale. if someone puts out something better than a russian then that will be the product that captures our $$.isn't that what capitalism is about?
Unless someone has a known sensitivity to it, I'd go straight to a "micro coil" (really a contact coil) wicked with cotton -- it simply works better and it isn't any more difficult to do.
Of course you do need some high-tech tools for it; 1/16" and/or 5/64" drill bits.
I dont think people on this thread have problem with clones. Its just a case of what pwople want to spend their money on
Unless someone has a known sensitivity to it, I'd go straight to a "micro coil" (really a contact coil) wicked with cotton -- it simply works better and it isn't any more difficult to do.
Of course you do need some high-tech tools for it; 1/16" and/or 5/64" drill bits.
Micro coils work really well on the kayfun. My favorite setup. 28 awg kanthal on 8 wraps with silica coming to 1.5 ohms. Perfect for me
Sir, you are putting words in my mouth. I said they were "blatant copies", I did not call them "rip-offs". I generally reserve the phrase "rip-off" for the clones that use the original maker's trademarks (name & logo) and/or make false claims about where they are made.
I agree, it is an improvement over the original KLF due to the adjustable airflow. But it would never have come into existence if SvoeMesto hadn't designed the Kafuns to begin with. You see, it's always cheaper to copy an existing design that works (and maybe make some small improvements) than it is to do the R&D required to come up with your own original design that actually works substatantially better than anything else on the market. If you don't understand this, then you've obviously never created a new, innovative product from scratch.
If it were truly an original design, then I'd have nothing but respect for them, not matter where they're located. But if the "better" product is just a copy of someone else's original design, then there's a reason it can be sold cheaper, and that's because little or no actual R&D went into it -- someone else had the idea, hand-built all the prototypes, did all the testing, etc, etc.
There's a reason why all intellectual property rights are limited in term, i.e. they are not perpetual.
I think its interesting that this new batch of Kayfuns has adjustable airflow so now svoemesto is copying off of the R91.
Unless someone has a known sensitivity to it, I'd go straight to a "micro coil" (really a contact coil) wicked with cotton -- it simply works better and it isn't any more difficult to do.
Of course you do need some high-tech tools for it; 1/16" and/or 5/64" drill bits.
Do you know of a good video for a micro coil on a kayfun?
I just got in a KF3.1 clone...but I think the 3.1 is actually just a KFL clone. Not really sure. Only cost $21 and works like a charm. I still am getting a muted, not-excellent flavor and not the best vapor production. The vapor production is most likely since I currently have it on an eVic which is capped at 2A output... 
That'll all change when the XPV gets here
That'll all change when the XPV gets here
Maybe go to SvoeMesto's site and look at how the 3.1 is supposed to differ from the KFL?
Then how do you figure it "works like a charm"?
What did you put in it for a build? With something like an eVic that can produce decent voltage but not much current, you'll need reasonably high resistance to make decent power. A KF wants something around 10 watts to perform well. 5V into a 2.5 ohm coil would put you right at 2A and 10 watts.
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I was referring to successfully setting it up; the process went swimmingly and I know in a few more builds I'll have it the way I want it.Then how do you figure it "works like a charm"?
IIRC, my current build on it is 7 wraps of 30ga which comes out to 1.7. Next build I'll throw a few more wraps on it and aim for 2.5. Thanks for the insight.
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