But Kenny, why won't the UltraFire 18650 3000mAh Protected Li-ion 3.7V fire it up and work?
They are a little longer.
They are a little longer.
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Got my provari last wk with the 18650 batts. They were working great, each lasting about 1.5 days. Now they are only lasting about 8 hours or so. I test the batts after I take it off the charger and they read 4.2. Is that normal? Is it normal for battery life to diminish this quick. I have a couple of 18490's coming in today so I will see how those work.
Paulie P.
Paulie P.
Paulie, have you started using LR attys/cartos? LR stuff draws more amps so will drain your batts faster, so if you were using high ohm stuff before and now are using LR, then this could be a possibility
Beezer, I have no solid theories as to why they won't work. I googled "ultrafire 18650 3000 mah" and found a couple of retailer descriptions touting a "new protection circuit", so maybe it has something to do with that? So far I've only used the provari power batts in mine and haven't had any problems with those
Beezer, I have no solid theories as to why they won't work. I googled "ultrafire 18650 3000 mah" and found a couple of retailer descriptions touting a "new protection circuit", so maybe it has something to do with that? So far I've only used the provari power batts in mine and haven't had any problems with those
I see on the website the new 2500 batteries are longer as well. They come with a new spring and spacer. These items are for sale separately as well. From what I see these batteries should work with the new spring. The rating in mah has nothing whatsoever to do with why they are not working. They have the same amount of power @3.7V. When I go to install them the light goes on but goes off as I screw it in further so it's trying to work. These 2 batteries were $5 shipped instead of $13 for less longevity plus shipping for 1. From what I see the spring is the difference.
Maybe the new protection circuit has something to do with it but aren't they all protected. Time will tell. I need a spring and spacer even if I have to buy a battery to get it.
Maybe the new protection circuit has something to do with it but aren't they all protected. Time will tell. I need a spring and spacer even if I have to buy a battery to get it.
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I have a question for you beezer. You mentioned that you are using 3ohm cartos. You did not mention what voltage you have your Provari set at. That has a lot to do with battery life.
As for all batteries being protected, the answer to that is no. The AW IMR batteries are a safe chemistry battery that does not require protection circuits. The IMR are also a high drain battery which is highly advisable with the Provari since it handles higher voltage settings much better.
You also mentioned that with your new batteries the light (button) went on briefly when installing the battery and bottom. That is what it's supposed to do. As the battery makes contact with the base spring and the positive pole inside the Provari the light will turn on briefly then go off. It's not supposed to stay on. It is only supposed to stay on when you are pressing the button.
3 ohm cartos Parmacrafter @ 5-5.2V
Boy, I'm getting an education here.
I emailed Provape in regards to buying the spring and spacer and didn't get a response. Are they on vacation? Now that I have another Provari coming I need more batteries and I'd like to get the 2500 mah and try it but have no idea when they'll be in stock.
Is MonsterKenny the owner? Can you chime in here again if you are Kenny? Maybe set 1 aside for me and let me know when you've done that so we can square up?
Boy, I'm getting an education here.
I emailed Provape in regards to buying the spring and spacer and didn't get a response. Are they on vacation? Now that I have another Provari coming I need more batteries and I'd like to get the 2500 mah and try it but have no idea when they'll be in stock.
Is MonsterKenny the owner? Can you chime in here again if you are Kenny? Maybe set 1 aside for me and let me know when you've done that so we can square up?
I am using the same setup as you Beezer. I have the Provari set at 5v. I also use Boge 3ohm cartos all the time. My batteries are the AW IMR 18650. As a rule I get no less than 12 hours off a fresh battery. Keep in mind I am going through roughly 3 mils of juice in that time. My batteries and Provari were bought new. The provari is about 2 months old and my batteries are closer to 4 months old. Unless you are going through 10 mils of juice in a day you should be getting much better battery life. Since we are effectively asking a 3.7v battery to put out 5v, we are pushing it. That is why I will only use IMR batteries from AW. They are made to withstand that kind of abuse. I would say that 1 of 2 things is going wrong. Either your Provari has something wrong causing it to drain much faster than usual or your batteries are old and ready to be replaced.
3 ohm cartos Parmacrafter @ 5-5.2V
Boy, I'm getting an education here.
I emailed Provape in regards to buying the spring and spacer and didn't get a response. Are they on vacation? Now that I have another Provari coming I need more batteries and I'd like to get the 2500 mah and try it but have no idea when they'll be in stock.
Is MonsterKenny the owner? Can you chime in here again if you are Kenny? Maybe set 1 aside for me and let me know when you've done that so we can square up?
I believe Dave is the owner not Kenny, but Ken works for Dave or Provape, I would definitely try the new Provape Batts, you will get longer run times then the AW IMR. Sounds like your Batts are ready for the trash can too, nothing like fresh Batts, as far as the spring the unit should work with either but the new spring has less resistance and should work better.
Thanks mwa. I ordered a new 2500 from Provape a couple hours ago. The other day they were out of stock but today they must be back in stock.
Hopefully the new battery will work out for you, beezer. I ordered two of those with my Provari, they're the only thing I've used in it so far, and they are awesome in terms of how long they last me
Thank you.
I didn't start this thread to upset anyone, I just have alot of questions and that's how I learn.
I didn't start this thread to upset anyone, I just have alot of questions and that's how I learn.
Hi Beezer,
Not sure why you didn't get a response as were pretty quick about emailing back..maybe it got caught in the spam trap.
As for batteries the trustfires and ultrafires are not very good batteries and can cause issues. The protection circuit on those cannot handle the power output that the ProVari demands and it might be causing the battery to shutdown early. Those cells also have a much higher internal resistance which would cause them to give you a low battery alert after a short time. Stick with the AW high drain or the ProVari Power cells
Hi Beezer,
Not sure why you didn't get a response as were pretty quick about emailing back..maybe it got caught in the spam trap.
As for batteries the trustfires and ultrafires are not very good batteries and can cause issues. The protection circuit on those cannot handle the power output that the ProVari demands and it might be causing the battery to shutdown early. Those cells also have a much higher internal resistance which would cause them to give you a low battery alert after a short time. Stick with the AW high drain or the ProVari Power cells
I am using the red AW. I can unscrew the end cap and retighten it and get the battery to work a little longer. I haven't used any others yet but maybe they are getting tired. I'll see when the new one I ordered from you comes in.
Ok, I know you were waiting for the outcome. The new 2500mah battery came along with the new spacer and spring and it worked. I put in the 3000mah which although is the same length as the 2500 would not function.
You guys at Provape know your onions and do your homework very well.
You guys at Provape know your onions and do your homework very well.
I know this is late but for future readers do not lubricate the end cap threads with vaseline. I did on my day old provari and 18650's lasted 2-3 hours, cleaned it off with solvent and back to 14 hours per charge.
Have you tried dielectric grease? That is after all basically what Naolox is, and you can get dielectric grease in a small packet from Auto Zone for $1.79.
So is vaseline and most other things like that. It isn't necessary that it be conductive, only that it impedes oxidation at the molecular level. If I can find it I'll post a link to an interesting article about how dielectric grease works by preventing oxidation, without impeding the flow of electricity.
Obviously you only want to use a thin layer of course.
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