Provari battery question

[CloudMerc]

First off, sorry if this has been talked about before. Kind of hard to find threw all the info on here.

Now, to the point!
I just ordered my Provari and it will be here Monday (yay!) but my problem is i didn't order any batteries with it because i thought i already had an AW IMR. Well i checked last night (should of checked sooner) and its an AW IC. I know Provape says to use IMR high drain batteries. So i guess my question is this, will this AW IC work in my Provari (is the IC high drain?) ? or do i need to flip out and find some batteries asap before monday comes ?

Really hope i don't need to get another battery, i just got this one and this sucker was expensive. Here's a link to the battery i have if it helps any. Link

Thanks in advance for any feedback!

 

[CloudMerc]

Well after doing more digging i found a couple threads that people mentioned the AW IC's are just as good to use as the AW IMR's. So unless this is wrong or someone has more info to add i think i found an answer! and i like it haha.

 

[dirfm]

Never used them. I spend the money on high drain for everything. Let us know how it works!

 

[CloudMerc]

Definitely will, hope the mail man comes early tomorrow haha. Think to be on the safe side im gonna order at least one AW IMR. If anything ill at least have it as a backup since my other 18650's are just plane.

 

[conan]

Well after doing more digging i found a couple threads that people mentioned the AW IC's are just as good to use as the AW IMR's. So unless this is wrong or someone has more info to add i think i found an answer! and i like it haha.

You need high drain batteries. If I were forced to use the IC's temporary I would vape at lower voltages until I got the high drains.

 

[VapPornRules]

I have been/still am a big proponent of non-IMR batteries. They last 1.5 to 2 times longer than IMRs.

But there is are potential downsides.

1. Batteries are slightly larger - they used to sell a spacer but I don't know if they do anymore. Since I lost my spacer I just don't tighten the cap all the way.

2. The original provari switch cut out at 2 amp draw. This is well within the capacity of a non-IMR battery. The newer provaris go up to 2.5 amp draw. This could possibly strain the non-IMR batteries (but maybe not).

If you overstrain the battery -- well I'm not sure what the results of that are but probably not good for battery and some safety risk. Keep in mind these batteries are protected so I don't think the safety is a big issue but if you are using high volts on low resistance cartos then you should probably stick to IMRs.

I use 3.0 resitance cartos at up to 6 volts and the non-IMRs have plenty of capacity for this.

 

[CloudMerc]

Thanks a lot for the input!

Was doing some more reading and came to the conclusion I'm just gonna use the IC's at lower volts till my IMR's arrive, which i will be ordering shortly. Gonna get the highest mah AW IMR's i can find haha. just hope i don't need a different charger than the one i use for my normal 18650's. As far as i know i don't need a different charger.

Last thing i want is for it to somehow mess up my new mod ha. Also want the best performance i can get out of it. Miss my Silver Bullet, well at least till tomorrow haha.

and really, thanks a lot everyone. This has been the most helpful forum and polite, that ive ever been on.

 

[CloudMerc]

Almost forgot, for the moment I'm gonna be using 1.5ohm dual coils for my tank till i run those out (left over from my SB). After that I'm not totally sure what ill use. i have a smoktech 3.0ohm single coil carto coming with some juice i ordered, gonna start there i guess haha.

Though I've been vaping for about 9months im still kind of a newbie when it comes to some things lol.

 

[mwa102464]

I would say the AW 3100 is a good batt to run because of its specs if your gonna run anything different then an IMR Batt I would use the 3100 AW,,If ya dont have the Provape spacer use an Oring it works fine. On the flip side the Panasonic CGR18650CH is by far the best batt on the market in the 18650 hybrid side of things and run times are extremely good and beat out the AW's IMR's all day long.

 

[tinstar15]

I might be mistaken but I think the protected AWs are flat top batteries. I think that the new Provari's have the positive connection recessed to prevent a reversed battery from being used. I just checked by putting one of my 2600mah AW protected batteries in and nothing happened. If the ones you have are flat tops, then I don't think they'll work.

 

[tinstar15]

2. The original provari switch cut out at 2 amp draw. This is well within the capacity of a non-IMR battery. The newer provaris go up to 2.5amp draw. This could possibly strain the non-IMR batteries (but maybe not)

Pretty sure that was just a typo.....

From Provape's website:
V2 - Version 2 now has a higher amperage limit of 3.5amp for low resistance atomizers and cartomizers.

 

[VapPornRules]

Pretty sure that was just a typo.....

From Provape's website:
V2 - Version 2 now has a higher amperage limit of 3.5amp for low resistance atomizers and cartomizers.

Right, thanks (I actually didnt know they went that high).

Standard, non-IMR (Lithium Cobalt) batteries can handle approximately 2x their amp hour rating so 3100 mahs can handle about 6.2 amps. However, it takes a certain amount of amps to boost batteries from 3.7v up to 5 or 6 volts but...I don't know how many they use to do that.

IMR batteries are necessary for smaller batteries, but 18650s are sufficiently large to handle all but the most demanding combinations of high voltage, low resistance applications!

IMR 18650s are safe to a very high amp draw (like 20 amps) which make them pretty much foolproof.

Based on the way I vape, I go for the longer life which still gives me more wattage than I need - but to be safe I only use standard resistance cartos. If I used LR I could probably strain the battery by mistake if I set the voltage too high.

 

[denali_41]

i think you are totally safe using those in your provari,,provape sells those for use in their provape 14500 size

 

[CloudMerc]

aah lame. i just figured most posts talking about using the IC in the provari meant all IC batteries (also was thinking all the AW IC's were flat top). Mine are flat top but the "nipple" does stick out from the top a little. But from my understanding i can at least use my current normal 18650's at 3.7 till i can get the imr's shipped to me. at least i hope. Really wish i could just walk into walmart and grab some IMR's ha, that will be the day!

Do you mean this battery ?
New! Panasonic CGR18650CH With Top Button, 2250mAh IMR High Drain 18650 Battery Cell-Made in Japan

 

[tinstar15]

The one on the right in the pic would work. The one on the left has a + terminal that is too wide. Basically, Provape cut a notch in the circuit board and put the + contact at the apex of that notch. It's deep enough and narrow enough to keep the contact from touching the + contact on my flat tops, which also protrude very slightly. You could probably make contact by attaching a small rare earth magnet to the + terminal, but if it slips or dislodges, it could possibly short. If it was a cheapo device I might try, but the Provari's are pricy enough to make me not want to risk it.

 

[CloudMerc]

Awesome, think i might just grab one of these panasonics then. Wish the mah was rated higher but thats still not bad, should get me threw a day but never used any lower than 3000mah (besides my ego) and those last me 2 days usually. Anyone know of anywhere else that sales them around the same price ? Was hoping to get faster shipping but that site charges way to much for it.

 

[CloudMerc]

Ok well i read the description on that site about the panasonic battery and they suggest you using only a high quality charger. Well my charger isnt high quality, got it on amazon with two 3000mah batteries for 10 or 12 bucks, so i wonder if i should try and find a better charger or if this one will do ok ? (starting to spend more than i planed at this point ha)

btw sorry for making a whole other post instead of editing my previous post, cant find the edit button....i know im a ..... ha..

 

[CloudMerc]

ha weird it edited me out saying mor_on at the end, and i noticed it says i cant edit messages....that sucks.

 

[tinstar15]

It depends on what their definition of "high quality" is. An xtar or pila charger are nice, or maybe just a standard trustfire will be fine. I've gone for years with a trustfire 4bay charger without a hitch yet.

 

[CloudMerc]

Made a post about the charger and found someone with a charger almost exactly like mine (maybe newer model?) and he uses the panasonic batteries. Says they work together just fine. ordered two of the panasonics so i should be set once everything gets here Wednesday!

ATM I'm just running the provari at 3.7 with normal batteries in it. Love this sucker and i cant even really kick up the voltage yet haha. A lot smaller than i expected. Didn't think it would be that much thinner than a SB and with the 18650 extension its only a little taller.