Provari Mini first impressions...

[Baditude]

This is not a deal breaker for me, but let me try to explain it.

I'm just mess'n with ya. I understand. I had two brothers that were left handed. I often "two hand" when going into program mode; using both hands to balance the Provari while clicking through the functions. I don't know why I do it, maybe its the weight of the device. Only time when I might "one hand" it is when I'm driving. Ummm, stopped at a light, of course.

 

[WayneH86]

I think my hand is cramped from vaping today. All I'm sayin' is that never happened with my kGo!

 

[zapped]

It's 8 watts at 3.7v, and 10 watts at 4.2v. Don't know why you would want hotter than 10 watts with a single coil carto.

Why are watts even being brought into the equation here? Provari doesnt display watts so its not needed unless you actually LIKE looking at charts and doing math that goes around your elbow to get to your head

1.7ohm can go as high as 4.4 bolts before I get E1s from my Provari. As youve already pointed out it starts to taste smoky and burnt at 4.0. Ive found for me that 3.7 volts is my sweet spot.

If you apply that same reasoning to the 3.0ohm atomizer then 5.0 volts should be about perfect for you.

I know I said I hate math, what I should have said was I hate complicated math that brings variables into the equation you have no way of knowing unless youre online looking at a chart.

As a general rule of thumb on a single coil carto or atty take the number of resistance and add 2 to get the voltage for your target sweet spot.You might have to adjust up or down .01 volt either way but this pretty accurate for a lot of people.

With a dual coil (which I dont recommend) double the ohms of the atty and add 2 so a 3ohm dual coil would need 8 volts for optimum flavor and vapor production (physically impossible with a Provari)

 

[Baditude]

Why are watts even being brought into the equation here? Provari doesnt display watts so its not needed unless you actually LIKE looking at charts and doing math that goes around your elbow to get to your head

I read where people seem obsessed with what watts everyone is vaping at. Who cares? Does everyone vape every juice they have at the same voltage or watts? Mine taste better at different voltages depending upon the individual flavor, and I adjust to taste, not by some chart.

I don't think I'm missing anything by the way I do it.

 

[zapped]

I read where people seem obsessed with what watts everyone is vaping at. Who cares? Does everyone vape every juice they have at the same voltage or watts? Mine taste better at different voltages depending upon the individual flavor, and I adjust to taste, not by some chart.

I don't think I'm missing anything by the way I do it.

Exactly! Knowing the wattage with a Provari is nice I guess but hardly needed. I use that simple equation I just pointed out to find a nice starting off point and adjust from there.

Ive noticed that when Im enjoying a cocktail (or three as the case may be) I like to bump the voltage up a notch or two.No math needed and I could care less what wattage Im at as long as it tastes good to me.

 

[gavind4]

This is not a deal breaker for me, but let me try to explain it.

If you're right handed and vaping, to check the screen you pull the e cig away from you (straight down) and turn it to the left. The screen will be upright.

Left handed you pull it away and down from you. The easiest motion after that is to turn it right (inward towards your body). If you do that the screen is upside down. So you have to turn it left which strains your wrist.

The action of looking at the screen should be mirror images of each other whether you're right or left handed. Left handers getting screwed again. Haha lol

Take the 2 screws out and flip it. Its under war. & we wont tell!

 

[kiwivap]

I use variable wattage on my pv. It has variable voltage too but I prefer watts. People who use variable wattage will compare in watts. Not worried about the voltages as the pv adjusts those automatically.

For those who just use variable voltage a chart is helpful and people use them to avoid underpowering the vape, or over-powering and popping a coil.
The chart on this link has been useful to a lot of folk:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...el-power-worksheet-voltage-vs-resistance.html

You can click on the image there for a bigger view. Green is the optimal area.

This chart is useful too:

 

[zapped]

Comparison in watts do no good when youre talking to someone with a device that reads only volts.Might as well be speaking in a foreign language in a thread that was started in English. See what Im talking about?

Your chart is the Rosetta Stone but since youre the one speaking a foreign language the burden should be up to you to translate IMO.Either that or be prepared to get ignored by newbies and veterans alike who havent or wont make the jump onto the runaway wattage train.

 

[kiwivap]

Comparison in watts do no good when youre talking to someone with a device that reads only volts.Might as well be speaking in a foreign language in a thread that was started in English. See what Im talking about?

Comparison in watts is useful for people using variable wattage. If I want to compare voltages with some-one who uses only variable voltage that's no problem. I can see the volts my pv has automatically set to as well, and compare my voltage with theirs. Comparing watts with volts would be pointless of course.

Your chart is the Rosetta Stone but since youre the one speaking a foreign language the burden should be up to you to translate IMO.Either that or be prepared to get ignored by newbies and veterans alike who havent or wont make the jump onto the runaway wattage train.

I posted two charts - neither of them is mine, but a lot of people just using variable voltage have found them helpful on the forum. So I posted it for those who may find it helpful.

The one at this link is good;
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...el-power-worksheet-voltage-vs-resistance.html

You can click on the image for a bigger view. The left side is ohms, and the top is the voltage you set your pv at. Green is the optimal area. I've found a lot of people like to see a chart.

 

[DC2]

As someone who always vapes at a minimum of 10 watts, I hate that chart.
I use standard resistance 510 atomizers and they hold up just fine.

I'd really like to know how the creator of that chart came up with those numbers.
I think it unnecessarily scares people away from higher voltages that might prove much more satisfying to them.


Oh wait, I hate this chart much more...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...el-power-worksheet-voltage-vs-resistance.html

 

[kiwivap]

It may not be helpful to you but its been very helpful for some newer vapers. I remember spending a lot of time with some-one on the forum one night until he saw one of those charts and realized what he had been getting wrong. He was using an Ego twist at the time.

 

[zapped]

Im not knocking you Kiwi, I appreciate you posting that.Ive looked at that chart a few times myself when just starting out and trying to figure out my setup. It pretty much confirms what Ive found just by pressing buttons.

Someone a few posts back was talking exclusively in watts though and thats when it starts to get confusing if you dont know Ohms law by heart or have a chart memorized

 

[Plumes.91]

I don't care what anyone says. I firmly believe that you'll have to adjust your voltage to a wide variety of variances in what you've got on top of your PV. It doesn't only matter what OHM your atomizer is. For instance... Before I was using cartomizer tanks, sure, the chart was pretty accurate. Now that I'm using cartomizer tanks its a whole NEW GAME. Where a 2ohm cartomizer would be good for me at 3.7 to 4 volts... With a 2ohm cartomizer in a carto tank, I like up to what? 4, 4.5 volts because the carto can get so saturated with juice from being inside the tank. If I'm using DUAL coil cartomizers its a whole new world as well because the two coils makes the resistance higher all together. Props to Zapped for pointing this out or I'd of forgotten to add that. Dual coils require much more voltage. OR, if I'm using lower nicotine juice and its not giving me throat hit, clicking my voltage up allows me to vaporize more nicotine in each puff which gives me a better throat hit with very low nicotine leveled juice. For instance, I'm vaping 6mg juice right now in a cartomizer tank. The carto tank is so saturated with juice that I hear gurgling in the carto every few vape sessions because so much juice is getting in through the hole. So, I vape this 2ohm carto at 5 to 5.5 volts, and the coils are completely satisfied, the plumes of vapor are great, and I'm happy with the throat hit. Likewise, if I were using a thicker VG based juice, I would lower my voltage because the thicker juice would have a harder time getting into the carto. And if I were using 18mg juice my voltage would be lower because I would need to vaporize less to achieve the same TH. With all this in consideration, I also keep taste in consideration and some juice flavors like lower voltage (fruits) some like medium (bakery) and some like higher voltages (tobacco) so I keep all of this in consideration when vaping on a VV device.

 

[Plumes.91]

I wanted to comment though, that my provari mini DOES lag. Its not user error. If it were user error I would know. I extensively tested this last night and it is the Provari. Its just regular lag. ANY electronic device can and will do this. I press the voltage up button, the Provari waits a moment, and then the voltage goes up. It happens. Its not me. I don't think theres any way that it could be me. Its the computer inside the Provari lagging a bit. Its not bad though. I can now fly through the menu like I've owned it for a month so I'm happy with the menu system so far. I like it and I think its a good system. But it DOES sometimes lag.

 

[tj99959]

You'd think, with this e cig being 5x more expensive than my other model (which works fine) they would have a left handed option. Lol oh well!

I WAS right handed, but that was 5 surgeries ago. The Provari is one of the few PV's that I can still use with my right hand.
So there ...... pft-pft-pft

 

[username9]

cool but im getting an eroll as a newb

 

[Plumes.91]

You have a lot of options when it comes to cig-alike set ups username, I hope you do your research.

 

[Mystee]

Not to hijack this thread...but username9, I bought an eRoll last week. I do love it. It's not perfect. But for a newbie like me...it is great. Great for the car and out in the world. That being said, I am getting another device this week. Probably a Provari. I am a week without cigarettes and I want to be prepared the best way I can be. Whatever you do...good luck to you!

 

[flintlock62]

I don't think he's talking about pressing the button to fire it, he's talking about holding it in your left hand while attempting to change the screen. If you look at the screen in your left hand, the display will be upside down. Yes, it is a problem for us lefties! If the screen was flipped over, I'd bet you right handed people would raise a BIG stink!

Yeah... I don't really understand the left handed thing at all lol. Like.. if I switch it to my left hand.. its the same configuration, but its now in my left hand? lol. If I use my pointer finger to press the firing button.. It doesn't matter what hand I have it in... the screen is facing my body and I can easily see the screen if I need to cycle through the menu. If I am using my thumb to press the firing button (which is what I prefer) it also doesn't matter which hand I have it in... I still turn it around and use my pointer finger to cycle through the menu. lol. For the price, your getting a mod that feels like a block of steel, with the custom teardrop machined grip, the most accurate and advanced variable voltage technology on the market today, a 1 year fix or replacement warranty and a lifetime of fix or replacement for a fee after the 1st year. Considering you can't get a good medium rare steak dinner at a 5 star resturaunt for under a quarter of the Provari's price, I'd say its a pretty good deal without the left handed option lol.

 

[WayneH86]

I'm getting used to the weight of the Provari Mini and how to hold the thing when I vape. I'm glad I bought it. It's sexy as hell. I've had it a day and two people already said it looks like a screwdriver. Haha. These 3.0 ohm cartomizers are shorter than the 1.7 ohm's, so I have to fill them up a little sooner. Not a big deal. I really need to get a tank (I'm thinking the Vivi Nova), the extension cap (plus two larger batteries) and one or two nice, funky drip tips. Then my model will be complete. I'm in no rush though. This device already looks 10x better than my cheap kGo. I went from having a Sharpie-like e cig to a screwdriver-like one. Lol

Looks like the battery life on the mini is about the same as the kGo. Probably because the higher voltage on the mini. I'd like the extension cap eventually. One thing I noticed is the battery for the mini charges a lot faster than the kGo battery.

To the n00b, I'd recommend a kGo. It's cheap and reliable.