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Why Provari? The Vmax and the Zmax are really nice. the Vmax is VV and the Zmax is Variable voltage and wattage. Why spend the extra cash on a Provari?

BTW the Zmax is an accurate VV mod, at least much more accurate than the provari.

As a side note, if you don't spend the extra 100 bucks on just the provari name you can pick up other accessories or e-liquid.
 
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Why Provari? The Vmax and the Zmax are really nice. the Vmax is VV and the Zmax is Variable voltage and wattage. Why spend the extra cash on a Provari?

BTW the Zmax is an accurate VV mod, at least much more accurate than the provari.

As a side note, if you don't spend the extra 100 bucks on just the provari name you can pick up other accessories or e-liquid.

I was wondering the same thing.
 

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Why Provari? The Vmax and the Zmax are really nice. the Vmax is VV and the Zmax is Variable voltage and wattage. Why spend the extra cash on a Provari?

BTW the Zmax is an accurate VV mod, at least much more accurate than the provari.

As a side note, if you don't spend the extra 100 bucks on just the provari name you can pick up other accessories or e-liquid.

The Zmax is "much more accurate" than the Provari? You mean equivalent to according to the data I have seen. I am still waiting on that judgement. After you pay your money (Smok Tek is $120) what do you get in 8 months if it breaks? Where is your warranty service after 90 days? Who do you call, china? Good luck with that.

With the Provari, you just send it to ProVape. And next year, send it to ProVape. Out of warranty? ProVape will rebuild your ProVari for less than buying a new one. Once you own one, you own it until you lose it. With the Zmax, you own it until it breaks. I don't see the ProVari being over $100 more than the Zmax either, last I looked they were only $159.95 a mere $30 more than the Vmax.

I wouldn't pay $120 for a disposable Vmax. No way, no how. I did pay $159.95 for the ProVari. It had to do with that customer service thing and peace of mind that it won't be tossed out when if/when it dies.
 

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I'm waiting on a couple of Caravela's to sail home. Once I have them, I'll be done with the Ego style 510 batt and I'll order a Provari to take on the road, and leave the Caravela's to enjoy at home. I only want to use one set of chargers and batteries. If I lose a Provari, I can get another just like it. Not true for the Caravela. I think the Provari is a wonderful device, but for aesthetics, I'm in love with Pedro's mods.
 
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Just get a provari. You'll love it. Caravelas are good to take out of the display case, use for a tankful, polish up and return to case. Provaris will take abuse. There are much more choices that are imho better than the caravela AFTER you own a provari.


If I may ask, which all mechanical pv's are better than the Caravela?? I need to look into them. I only use the hardest hitting, best made devices, so I need to know which ones you speak of. Whatever they are if it indeed it is true I will buy one of each.
 

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Relax guys. It was just a wrong choice of words. The OP is a beginner and what I meant was money for a Caravela would be put to better use acquiring other stuff suitable for him with his budget constraints. The Caravela is the Ferrari of Mods, OP is a novice driver, recommending a novice driver to drive a ferrari would be silly. Also seeing him post a question about did clone in another thread, I would cry if he tops off a Caravela with a did clone. :facepalm:
 

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Why Provari? The Vmax and the Zmax are really nice. the Vmax is VV and the Zmax is Variable voltage and wattage. Why spend the extra cash on a Provari?

BTW the Zmax is an accurate VV mod, at least much more accurate than the provari.

As a side note, if you don't spend the extra 100 bucks on just the provari name you can pick up other accessories or e-liquid.

Just wondering about the z-max - I have a lot about the INACCURACY of the z-max. On the contrary only good news about the provari ACCURACY and dependability.
 

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In my view, all these clumsy polished metal tubes, like Caravela and GG, with different engravings and other gadgets are very uncomfortable and look ridiculous in the hands of men.

What did you find uncomfortable, Ulmer? Did they not fit your hand well? Button placement? Diameter or length? Weight? What do you prefer, and why?
 

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Just wondering about the z-max - I have a lot about the INACCURACY of the z-max. On the contrary only good news about the provari ACCURACY and dependability.

The first version of the Zmax was inaccurate in terms of output matching display.
The Zmax 2 is very accurate and maintains voltage under load.

pbusardo's review below - pretty thorough. BTW - the pulsing spound he talks about is so quiet I couldn't hear it. I've managed to hear it twice with mine. Its not an issue.

 

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Relax guys. It was just a wrong choice of words. The OP is a beginner and what I meant was money for a Caravela would be put to better use acquiring other stuff suitable for him with his budget constraints. The Caravela is the Ferrari of Mods, OP is a novice driver, recommending a novice driver to drive a ferrari would be silly. Also seeing him post a question about did clone in another thread, I would cry if he tops off a Caravela with a did clone. :facepalm:

The OP started this thread with the statement that they wanted to buy either a Caravela or a Provari for Christmas. It was his choice to buy a ferrari, so who are you to tell him as a novice he shouldn't buy one? If I had good advice when I started I would have a Caravela and a ProVari and a lot of extra money saved from NOT buying the crap from China. Those 2 PV's are investments in vaping, hold their value if you want to ever sell them, and are 2 of the best out there.

Better start crying. I am going to top my Caravela with any number of clones. In time I will buy a well made RBA, and haven't chosen which one yet. I have been busy buying the PV's to power one and learning if they are for me by buying mesh and wick and practicing on the cheapo ones. It isn't like a clearo where you just screw on a new premade head, there is trial and error learning involved. Maybe I will start a thread like the OP did asking for opinions on which one to buy and why.
 

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The first version of the Zmax was inaccurate in terms of output matching display.
The Zmax 2 is very accurate and maintains voltage under load.

pbusardo's review below - pretty thorough. BTW - the pulsing spound he talks about is so quiet I couldn't hear it. I've managed to hear it twice with mine. Its not an issue.



But alas, it is only a Zmax. It too shall die with no warranty. Poor OP wasn't asking for suggestions other than the 2: Caravela or ProVari. Sounds like he wants a PV he can invest in rather than a disposable.

The Caravela is a beautiful and extremely well made mechanical. The ProVari is a well functioning and well made VV. Neither are disposables like a Zmax and once bought, are solid choices until you lose it or sell it.
 

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In my view, all these clumsy polished metal tubes, like Caravela and GG, with different engravings and other gadgets are very uncomfortable and look ridiculous in the hands of men.

There is NOTHING clumsy about the way these are made.
I think perhaps you don't understand what they are. That is the only thing I can think of when I read this. I find them quite sexy actually, and it has nothing to do with the hands holding them. It has to do with the fine machining and precision the crafters who made them put into them along with their functionality.
 

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But alas, it is only a Zmax. It too shall die with no warranty. Poor OP wasn't asking for suggestions other than the 2: Caravela or ProVari. Sounds like he wants a PV he can invest in rather than a disposable.

The Caravela is a beautiful and extremely well made mechanical. The ProVari is a well functioning and well made VV. Neither are disposables like a Zmax and once bought, are solid choices until you lose it or sell it.

My Zmax has a 6 month warranty. I wasn't responding to the OPs request, I was responding to another poster, who I quoted. That's why I quoted him, and I was giving him info.
So here's the link to the video again for him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cCBSl1ty_J8
The Zmax is not a "disposable". I was not comparing it to anything else anyway. The Provari is a nice variable voltage mod. The caravela is a beautiful looking mechanical mod. The Zmax is a very good variable wattage mod. They are three different kinds of pv.
I'm not going to generically knock pvs made in China. They have kept me off cigarettes for nearly 8 months and all my pvs that I've had from day one (bar one that I broke through user error) still work fine.
 
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