Provari, the ax has come for you

[havoc1967]

There wasn't a 2nd spring included in your box?

I've yet to mess with the spring.

Nope. No second spring included, I was using AW IMR's.....and the spring would compress enough to impede function regularly. Not a huge issue, just annoying. Not the reason I got rid of it though. Just not into variable devices. Oh, and the provari looks more like a vibrator than all my other mods

 

[DPLongo22]

I just wonder they can survive with much lower profit margins once Uncle Sam takes his cut. Or is that cost going to be passed onto the consumers? That's my whole issue with this, really because businesses have built their comfort level and bread & butter around an unregulated market.

Sent from my HTC One M8 Harman/Kardon edition

ALL costs are passed on to consumers, or there would be no businesses left to sell us stuff. It might turn out to be yet one more reason why the entire lot of our legislators deserve an orange jumpsuit and three squares per day. Anything over and above standard sales tax, the same as we pay at the grocery stores, will be viewed as more criminal behavior (by me) of the very people we've placed our trust in. And voted for.

Stopping there.

 

[DPLongo22]

Oh, and the provari looks more like a vibrator than all my other mods

I don't see it.

 

[Thrasher]

That would be a bit more relevant if people were holding $600 flip phones. Those $600 phones have replaced everything from peoples flashlights to walkmans to cameras & video recorders to their PC's. Most also get those phones either free or up to $200 on contract. My girlfriend rents her iPhone 6 from Sprint for like $5 a month.

Now there will always be people complaining about prices and I've seen people complain about DNA 40's only doing 40w. But watts are only part of it and there is a lot more that those devices bring to the table. I also don't expect those devices to always cost that much or close to it. Especially when $300+ DNA 30 devices now sell for $75 to $100.

The ProVari price made a lot of sense when it was a newer device. But pretty much all tech drops in price once new stuff comes out. It's wrong to assume vaping devices should follow the same pricing patterns as pretty much every other piece of electronics? After spending a bit of time in this thread though, it's clear to me that the P3 could cost $600 and people would defend it.

And I don't just blame ProVape since the majority of this industry is over priced. Its like the whole business model was built around "cheaper than smoking" since we were spending $2500 to $5000+ annually on tobacco products. I just wonder they can survive with much lower profit margins once Uncle Sam takes his cut. Or is that cost going to be passed onto the consumers? That's my whole issue with this, really because businesses have built their comfort level and bread & butter around an unregulated market.

Sent from my HTC One M8 Harman/Kardon edition

Oh you pay for that phone, convincing you its cheaper to rent or finance is the real scam.
I buy mine cash, and for 60 bucks I have unlimited data, zero cap and no throttling

. I even hotspot my tablet and laptop. And all those people with app'd out phones are suckers, the amount of data collection and spying going on in a free app is pathetic.and I don't use many of those either.

Only in america are phones " free" and data plans 100 bucks, showing what I been saying, most people don't understand value like they think. I know people in Europe telling me unlimited internet and data is 20-30 bucks at top speed if you buy the phone yourself. So kind of a bad example

 

[AstroTurf]

That would be a bit more relevant if people were holding $600 flip phones. Those $600 phones have replaced everything from peoples flashlights to walkmans to cameras & video recorders to their PC's. Most also get those phones either free or up to $200 on contract. My girlfriend rents her iPhone 6 from Sprint for like $5 a month.

Now there will always be people complaining about prices and I've seen people complain about DNA 40's only doing 40w. But watts are only part of it and there is a lot more that those devices bring to the table. I also don't expect those devices to always cost that much or close to it. Especially when $300+ DNA 30 devices now sell for $75 to $100.

The ProVari price made a lot of sense when it was a newer device. But pretty much all tech drops in price once new stuff comes out. It's wrong to assume vaping devices should follow the same pricing patterns as pretty much every other piece of electronics? After spending a bit of time in this thread though, it's clear to me that the P3 could cost $600 and people would defend it.

And I don't just blame ProVape since the majority of this industry is over priced. Its like the whole business model was built around "cheaper than smoking" since we were spending $2500 to $5000+ annually on tobacco products. I just wonder they can survive with much lower profit margins once Uncle Sam takes his cut. Or is that cost going to be passed onto the consumers? That's my whole issue with this, really because businesses have built their comfort level and bread & butter around an unregulated market.

Sent from my HTC One M8 Harman/Kardon edition

Here it is in a nutshell...

Take that HTC you got and after two years of ownership, sell it. Whatcha got? Not much.

Now take an iPhone 6S, and after two years of ownership, sell it also. You made alot more on the iPhone sale than you did the HTC.

The same applies to the value associated with Provi Vs PRC Clown Junk.

Understand?

Jim

 

[The Ocelot]

meep

 

[stevegmu]

Oh you pay for that phone, convincing you its cheaper is the real scam.
I buy mine cash, and for 60 bucks I have unlimited data. I even hotspot my tablet and laptop. And all those people with app'd out phones are suckers, the amount of data collection and spying going on in a free app is pathetic.and I don't use many of those either.

Only in america are phones " free" and data plans 100 bucks, showing what I been saying, most people don't understand value like they think.

This is true. I have an old grandfathered government discount T-Mobile plan. It is active as long as I pay every month- $40/month- more minutes and data than I could ever use. I buy unlocked phones at full cost to use with the plan, however...

 

[yuseffuhler]

Oh you pay for that phone, convincing you its cheaper is the real scam.
I buy mine cash, and for 60 bucks I have unlimited data. I even hotspot my tablet and laptop. And all those people with app'd out phones are suckers, the amount of data collection and spying going on in a free app is pathetic.and I don't use many of those either.

Only in america are phones " free" and data plans 100 bucks, showing what I been saying, most people don't understand value like they think.

I pay cash for mine as well And go with an MVNO. Cheaper in the long run, I've saved about 2 grand in the time I switched. I pay 45 a month for what other people pay 80, and I'm the one they call crazy lol.

 

[AstroTurf]

Nope. No second spring included, I was using AW IMR's.....and the spring would compress enough to impede function regularly. Not a huge issue, just annoying. Not the reason I got rid of it though. Just not into variable devices. Oh, and the provari looks more like a vibrator than all my other mods

Hum... Vibrator huh?!?

Perhaps, That's where my popularity on Karaoke Night comes from?!?

LOLz, Jim

 

[Oberon75]

Oh you pay for that phone, convincing you its cheaper to rent or finance is the real scam.
I buy mine cash, and for 60 bucks I have unlimited data. I even hotspot my tablet and laptop. And all those people with app'd out phones are suckers, the amount of data collection and spying going on in a free app is pathetic.and I don't use many of those either.

Only in america are phones " free" and data plans 100 bucks, showing what I been saying, most people don't understand value like they think. I know people in Europe telling me unlimited internet and data is 20-30 bucks if you buy the phone yourself. So kind of a bad example

Actually I'm not paying much different then I did at Metro PCS.

Sent from my HTC One M8 Harman/Kardon edition

 

[Oberon75]

Here it is in a nutshell...

Take that HTC you got and after two years of ownership, sell it. Whatcha got? Not much.

Now take an iPhone 6S, and after two years of ownership, sell it also. You made alot more on the iPhone sale than you did the HTC.

The same applies to the value associated with Provi Vs PRC Clown Junk.

Understand?

Jim

Except iPhones aren't better phones.

Sent from my HTC One M8 Harman/Kardon edition

 

[yuseffuhler]

Except iPhones aren't better phones.

Sent from my HTC One M8 Harman/Kardon edition

Oh lord..... can we keep the flame war down to one topic? (this is a joke.)

 

[Thrasher]

Do you argue this much in real life too? Lol

The thread was nice and calm and BAM back to arguing about the price of a provari.

 

[alicewonderland]

Do you argue this much in real life too? Lol

one could say the same about others.

 

[Thrasher]

one could say the same about others.

 

[AstroTurf]

Except iPhones aren't better phones.

Sent from my HTC One M8 Harman/Kardon edition

Perhaps you didn't understand the resale value after two years???

Just because you say that doesn't mean your going to get more for your superior HTC at the end of two years then the inferior iPhone.

Now, who's right and who's wrong?

I like to believe the sales/resell market first. And you second. People vote with there wallet, and they say otherwise. The same holds true with a ProVari also!!!

Cheers, Jim

 

[alicewonderland]

Perhaps you didn't understand the resale value after two years???

Just because you say that doesn't mean your going to get more for your superior HTC at the end of two years then the inferior iPhone.

Now, who's right and who's wrong?

I like to believe the sales/resell market first. And you second. People vote with there wallet, and they say otherwise. The same holds true with a ProVari also!!!

Cheers, Jim

Which also kind of leads to another topic. Branding and Advertisement. BeatsbyDre headphones anyone? But lets not get into that arguement lmao.

 

[AstroTurf]

Which also kind of leads to another topic. Branding and Advertisement. BeatsbyDre headphones anyone? But lets not get into that arguement lmao.

Are you jelly of them too?

 

[alicewonderland]

Are you jelly of them too?

only of the $3billion dre got by selling it to apple.

 

[stevegmu]

Maybe I should buy another iPhone before Apple goes out of business...