ProVari Version 3 Variable Wattage and sub ohm vaping...

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If it ain't broke don't fix it... I got my ProVari after just a week of vaping and now it's been about a month since I got it, I have noob written all over me, I own several different tanks all different ohms and have never had an issue adjusting my voltage, I check my ohms, check my current setting, move the voltage to where I like it for that resistance, then I move up and down a few points to taste and I'm good, takes longer to read this than to adjust it!!!

A matching color tube ring and base stand would be nice made by them, I really don't like 3rd party parts on my ProVari (just a personal preference), Other than that leave it alone!!!
 

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ProVape makes an excellent product and has a loyal customer base. The members of ECF are a very small faction of the vaping community and those obsessed with VV vs VW is even smaller. ProVape's target consumer is someone like myself: I want a durable, American made device that can be sent in for repairs if necessary. I'm more interested in pretty colors than amp limits. My friends who have bought ProVaris did so because they liked mine. VW would in no way be a selling point for any of us. I currently have 6.

Yeah... What she said!!!

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Also, take a que from the eVic / SvoeMestro / Poldiac folks and make the ProVari a modular device.

this + 1

we shouldnt have to go to outside sources for accessories to get full functionality. the days of just cartos is passing and the refusal to redesign the top cap is slightly annoying, more and more there are so many devices adding up that cant get airflow or even reach the pin inside the 510. would take them all of 5 minutes to put out a more modern end cap. and yea there are adaptors but i shouldnt need accessories to make my device function.

even then you shouldnt have to traverse the internet to get all these accessories, i dont understand their refusal to make anything for the provari themselves and it becomes harder to understand knowing they could probably charge more and still sell them with the provape name stamped on them..

personally they dont need to touch the electronics in any way. but the tube could use a few new features.
 
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I have 3 ProVaris and 1 vw device (iTaste 134), and several kicks for my mechs. They all are set and forget for me. If you don't do sub ohm and use mostly carto tanks with the same cartos in them, you really don't need to adjust things too much. So, really I don't need ProVari to come out with a vw device. I'm happy with what I got. :)
 

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dam718 said:
This would likely draw the sub ohm crowd back to the ProVari.
What if we don't want them?
Exactly. Why would Provape wish to attract a smaller group of sport vapors and cloud chasers who admittedly or not are pushing battery technology to its safer limits? That would essentially be like attracting a lawsuit on purpose. What company would want to attract that segment of potential customers?
 
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we shouldnt have to go to outside sources for accessories to get full functionality. the days of just cartos is passing and the refusal to redesign the top cap is slightly annoying, more and more there are so many devices adding up that cant get airflow or even reach the pin inside the 510. would take them all of 5 minutes to put out a more modern end cap. and yea there are adaptors but i shouldnt need accessories to make my device function.

even then you shouldnt have to traverse the internet to get all these accessories, i dont understand their refusal to make anything for the provari themselves and it becomes harder to understand knowing they could probably charge more and still sell them with the provape name stamped on them..

personally they dont need to touch the electronics in any way. but the tube could use a few new features.

It could be the Provape Team is discussing some type of flat top Provari at this time. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/342610-dear-provape-why-isnt-there-flat-top-option-provari-4.html#post10336974

STVNMR said:
I wish ProVape would offer a flat top ring on their site - one with matching teardrops would be nice - but I like the way the beveled top cap looks with 19mm juice delivery systems, so I wouldn't want to have to choose one permanent option either way.
MonsterKenny said:
Let me mention this to the team.. Lets see if we can get an official flat cap for the provari
 

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I don't think sub-ohm is a good idea for ProVape, but a VV/VW ProVari V3 is good marketing sense.
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People just getting into vaping looking for "the best" will no longer question, "Why?" The questions will stop. Those who don't care about VW can easily ignore the setting. ProVape can justify increasing the price. Some of the existing customer base will jump onto the bandwagon and put their 2.0/2.5s in the FS/FT section. And I'll be waiting with a finger on the F5 key.
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I'm kinda glad they are sticking to their guns, TBH...

If they make a V3, I would like to see them make it a true 20W capable device, yet keep it as VV only...

Continue the 2.9V to 6V range... Raise current limit to 7A. Every time it fires it calculates device resistance immediately before firing the coil or passing an error code. Allow for a range of resistances to fire the device at 20W throughout the voltage range.

For example:

Voltage Setting | Minimum Resistance

2.9V | 0.42 Ohms
3.0V | 0.45 Ohms
3.1V | 0.48 Ohms
3.2V | 0.51 Ohms
3.3V | 0.54 Ohms
3.4V | 0.58 Ohms
3.5V | 0.61 Ohms
3.6V | 0.65 Ohms
3.7V | 0.68 Ohms
3.8V | 0.72 Ohms
3.9V | 0.76 Ohms
4.0V | 0.80 Ohms

And so on and so forth until you reach 6V with a low limit of 1.8 Ohms

This would likely draw the sub ohm crowd back to the ProVari. As it is, the 3.5A limit is pretty restrictive. I think it's high power limit is fairly restrictive as well (I don't have the current spreadsheet with max power available...)

That is what they need to do with V3... Not a VW gimmick... Make it even more beastly by doubling down on the current limit and pumping the max power to 20W. All while making it the safest sub ohm mod on the planet...

I would never use it for sub ohm vaping, to be quite honest... But I am pretty sure a lot of mechanical users who are safety conscious would grab one up...

Also, take a que from the eVic / SvoeMestro / Poldiac folks and make the ProVari a modular device. Give us a control head, swappable battery tubes, and a user replaceable top cap. I personally don't care for the extension caps... Give me an 18350 tube, and 18490 tube, and an 18650 tube... This way any time they improve the guts, all you have to do is buy a new control head and BAM you're upgraded. They would actually make more money this way rather than the current method of charging $20 for an upgrade, sell a new control head for $100... I would buy a new one!

And give us better color options!

IMO, if ProVari came out w/a mod that has VW, VV, plays jingle bells and does laundry, the haters will still hate and find something wrong with it. Too expensive, too heavy, too small, too big, Jingles Bells not fast enough and laundry not clean enough.

Even if it had every single brand new, best feature for every single vaping need, there are peeps that would find something wrong with it just because its a ProVari. So, can't please everyone, don't fix it if it ain't broken.

And wouldn't shoot you Seapup!!! Your info you give me is way too valuable..need to keep you around! ;)
 

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That's just another reason the eVic didn't interest me.
I actually won a FREE evic in a raffle drawing at an AltSmoke grand opening party. Frankly, I didn't want an evic, even a free one. In private, I asked the store manager and owner (who I know) if I could exchange the evic for an MVP, which they allowed.
 

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I do like the following options for a ProVari V3:

Higher power limits. 5+ amps.
Workable to 0.6 or 0.7 ohms. Both of mine (V2.5) will fire to 0.8.
Flat top option.

I could care less about VW. But I think a bit more range for RBAs would be nice. It would be cool for ProVari to provide a safer option for "high" sub-ohm.
 

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Exactly. Why would Provape wish to attract a smaller group of sport vapors and cloud chasers who admittedly or not are pushing battery technology to its safer limits? That would essentially be like attracting a lawsuit on purpose. What company would want to attract that segment of potential customers?

One must also consider that the potential sales to the small group of people certain features would appeal to is even smaller and likely wouldn't make a dent in the cost of development and manufacturing.

Worldwide Vaping Community - ECF - extreme vapers - extreme vapers who would buy a ProVari - $

ProVape is a business. They are motivated by profit. A purple LED would generate more sales, at a higher profit margin, than redesigning the electronics. In case you guys don't remember my posts from last spring, I not only predicted green before VW, I even predicted the correct shade of green. I was wrong about the gecko though.
 

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Sub-ohm vaping only exists because they want the 35W+ vape. High current and low impedance is not the only way to get 35W. Increase Vin, and you can get 35W out of a safe 3.5 amp current and a 2.8 ohm coil. Provari could change the face of vaping, again.

My wish list for V3
- Type III HA, Type II for colors
- IP67 or at least IPX-8 Waterproofing
- Clicky button
- Integrated AFC in top cap
- Display closer to the window so it's viewable at angles
- fingerprint scanner, A7 chip w/ 64-bit architecture, M7 coprocessor, iSight Camera, available in Silver gold and gray..oh wait ;)
 

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Sub-ohm vaping only exists because they want the 35W+ vape. High current and low impedance is not the only way to get 35W. Increase Vin, and you can get 35W out of a safe 3.5 amp current and a 2.8 ohm coil. Provari could change the face of vaping, again.

My wish list for V3
- Type III HA, Type II for colors
- IP67 or at least IPX-8 Waterproofing
- Clicky button
- Integrated AFC in top cap
- Display closer to the window so it's viewable at angles
- fingerprint scanner, A7 chip w/ 64-bit architecture, M7 coprocessor, iSight Camera, available in Silver gold and gray..oh wait ;)

Purple LED.
 

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Sub-ohm vaping only exists because they want the 35W+ vape. High current and low impedance is not the only way to get 35W. Increase Vin, and you can get 35W out of a safe 3.5 amp current and a 2.8 ohm coil. Provari could change the face of vaping, again.

My wish list for V3
- Type III HA, Type II for colors
- IP67 or at least IPX-8 Waterproofing
- Clicky button
- Integrated AFC in top cap
- Display closer to the window so it's viewable at angles
- fingerprint scanner, A7 chip w/ 64-bit architecture, M7 coprocessor, iSight Camera, available in Silver gold and gray..oh wait ;)
You do make a point about Air Flow. I personally have NO beef with the chipset and what it offers. I do believe the tube itself and top cap are a bit tired. A redesign to maybe better fit certain juice delivery systems may not be a bad idea. I do not miss my VW when pulling out a Provari for the day. I actually somehow wind up using VV more often, even when using, my VW VV devices.
 
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