provari vs full mech pv

[digital_karma]

guys I have a question, if you'll be given a chance to have one, what will you choose? the provari or a full mech pv? why? pros & cons? how bout the price? sorry to many question. thanks!


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[Completely Average]

Me, personally, I'll take a mech.

VV is overrated. If you want VW then a mech with a Kick does anything that a VW mod can do, it just takes a little more effort to change the wattage setting.

The VV/VW mod always drains the battery more than a mech, and it drains the battery even when the device is turned "off". There is more resistance in the system which means less of the battery power actually makes it to the coil. And then there is the issue of "what if something breaks". With a VV/VW mod, if something breaks the mod is almost always junked. With a mechanical if something breaks you can always fix it.


And then there is the size....

Do you really want to carry the giant thing on the right when the little one on the left hits just as hard and lasts just as long on a charge?

 

[State O' Flux]

If you understood the difference between an unregulated mod and a regulated one, you'd not be asking that question... as they are two distinctly different methods of power delivery. Not so much one or the other... but rather, both would be desirable. This is assuming you're comparing a genuine, high end mech to a Provari... values being roughly similar.

One requires that you simply determine the correct voltage for a selected known resistance - the other requires that you build or obtain a coil, again with a desired resistance... then choose a battery with adequate and safe amperage to perform well with that resistance. A bit more complication and user involvement for the latter... where we think in terms of amperage, not voltage.

You either are capable of using ohms law calculations to determine a safe battery selection for your resistance... or if that is beyond your depth of interest, you go with a regulated mod that allows for the more convenient calculation ~ where resistance + 2 = starting a point voltage value.

To answer your question specifically... I have no interest in owning regulated mods beyond what I have. If they were a preference, then the Provari is certainly one of the "unicorns" of the VV world.

 

[sawtoothscream]

ill take the mech, I can get the vape I want with rebuilding and my batteries last longer. my zmax will suck the battery down fast, really fast compaired to my sentinel m16 with a .7 build.

if I was going to get another regulated device it would be a dna 30 device, not a provari

 

[PeteC2]

Hmm, I do not see this as an "either/or" proposition.

While there are adherents to each device, it really comes down to YOUR preference.

Though I have mech mods and RBA/RDAs that I build my own coils for, I generally prefer the simplicity of having a vv/vw variable power regulated mod. Simply more safety built in and I can adjust the strength of my vape without having to replace coils to do so...but then perhaps I am lazy!

While the Provari is a fine device, from a price vs. vape-quality vantage, there are a slew of variable power devices which cost a fraction of the price and provide just as good a vape.

If you are a new/newer vaper, I'd recommend trying a Vamo, SID, or other lower cost, full featured regulated mod ($50 price point) before buying a Provari. See if that is what meets your vaping needs, and if so, then you may decide to get a Provari...or not.

Same with a mech mod. Plenty of perfectly vapable $29 - $49 models to start with.

Based on the nature of your question, I get the impression that you are at the "exploration" stage of vaping...and that is good! Until you really develop your own preferences, why spend substantial coin on a higher-end unit?

PS - Size is not a matter of mech mod vs regulated...plenty of both smaller and larger mods in each format.

 

[maxd]

pls read guys above this post - not much to add

 

[digital_karma]

thanks to your answer guys. well I'm new to vaping. I have a clone nemesis & a cyclone afc. I still don't know how to build a single coil, actually I'm trying to wrap a wire in a wick (practice makes perfect right).

maybe I'm just comparing the price of a 2nd hand provari against bnew nzonic black ed, that's why I asked your opinion.

anyways, I think I need to study first ohms law & etc so I can vape safely!

thanks everyone & have a good day!


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[edyle]

guys I have a question, if you'll be given a chance to have one, what will you choose? the provari or a full mech pv? why? pros & cons? how bout the price? sorry to many question. thanks!


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That's like asking if given a chance to have one, which would you choose: a Harley, or a full mech bicycle ?

 

[sawtoothscream]

thanks to your answer guys. well I'm new to vaping. I have a clone nemesis & a cyclone afc. I still don't know how to build a single coil, actually I'm trying to wrap a wire in a wick (practice makes perfect right).

maybe I'm just comparing the price of a 2nd hand provari against bnew nzonic black ed, that's why I asked your opinion.

anyways, I think I need to study first ohms law & etc so I can vape safely!

thanks everyone & have a good day!


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there are several calculators online that do all the math for you. look up micro coils, they are really easy to build and last a long time before you need to build a new one. rebuilding IMO is simple. as long as you have the right batteries and a multimeter to check the resistance and shorts and stay within the batteries limits, you will be fine. Feel free to ask questions, lots of people to help you with your build.

 

[Caridwen]

That's like asking if given a chance to have one, which would you choose: a Harley, or a full mech bicycle ?

No it's not. This is a new member asking for some information.

 

[Ryedan]

thanks to your answer guys. well I'm new to vaping. I have a clone nemesis & a cyclone afc. I still don't know how to build a single coil, actually I'm trying to wrap a wire in a wick (practice makes perfect right).

maybe I'm just comparing the price of a 2nd hand provari against bnew nzonic black ed, that's why I asked your opinion.

anyways, I think I need to study first ohms law & etc so I can vape safely!

thanks everyone & have a good day!

I suggest you spend some time with the Nemesis clone and see what that is all about. You can try LR cartos on it and definitely should experiment a lot more with the Cyclone. Be sure you know how to do that safely though as there are no safety features built into a mech mod. You need IMR or hybrid Li-ion batteries and you must not build coils at too low resistance so you draw too much current from the batt.

If you have not done it yet I also suggest you get an inexpensive regulated device and see what that can do. You can get a eGo Twist or Spinner, or a MVP if you want to spend a bit more. They all do the same thing though and you will be able to learn which type of device is better for you with any of these.

 

[ZeroWayCool]

As already stated it is a matter of preference - most seasoned vapers (still probably) have both - it may be for convenience or other factors. I have a few provaris in different forms as well as many mechs - it just depends on what i am doing and where i am going and how much time I have as to what I use.

If you understand Ohms law (again as already mentioned) and battery safety you could consider a mech (which since you are getting into this I see - this is a must). If you don't want to worry about all that when you are starting out use a regulated device and it will take care of the majority of safety measures for you - you get to just pop on an atty of juice set to about what V you think is right for the pre-built coil (there are guide charts to help) and vape. Provaris are tanks and seem to last well, but are expensive - you could try something smaller and cheaper to start like an MVP2 and an atty that comes with prebuilt coils or cartos and a carto tank. If that floats your boat get a provari.

As stated it is knowledge and personal preference, patience or convenience.

 

[Unclefunkle]

I have both. My mech/dripper combo is for the house, and Aqua iTaste SVD is for the road. The SVD with tank in 18650 mode is about 9 inches long where my mech and rda is pocket size. I have put the tank on the mech and traveled ike that also. The great thing about the svd is the built in ohm reader when I am building. You can get a SVD for about 40 bucks and it performs on a similar level as the Provari

 

[serenity21899]

I have both. But I think for a new vaper, a regulated mod is the way to go. If you cannot afford a ProVari, there are many more mods available that are also good.

Before owning a mech, I think it is a good idea to learn about resistance, battery safely, what I kick does, coil building, and so on.

 

[Hernan Sabai]

Almost always use mechanicals mods. But sometimes use provari too.

 

[dchest02]

For a newbie, I would suggest the Provari. It was my first mod, and I still own it. It doesn't get much use now that I have a rotation of Reos, but a good carto tank on top of a Provari is a pretty solid setup.

 

[Completely Average]

Before owning a mech, I think it is a good idea to learn about resistance, battery safely, what I kick does, coil building, and so on.

That all depends on how you intend to use the mech, doesn't it?

Does someone REALLY need to know all of that stuff if all they intend to do is use a retail topper and retail coils? Why should they learn about coil building and resistance if they aren't building their own coils? How much of an issue is battery safety with retail coils? They are all made to work on eGos after all.

Too many people fall into this "a mech mod is dangerous" mindset. It's FALSE.

A mech mod is no more dangerous than a flashlight, which just so happens to be designed the exact same way. The ONLY thing that is dangerous is YOUR HOMEMADE COILS. Buy a retail coil and it's already designed to work safely with any large enough ecig battery, be it an eGo, regulated mod, or mech mod. If you're using a retail topper you can forget all of those safety fears of yours, someone else has already done all of that for you.

For example, my wife, who uses a 69 mod with an iClear 30s tank. She couldn't even tell you who makes the battery, much less things like the type, mAh rating, amps, or anything else about it. She knows hers is red, and that's about it. Does that put her in any danger? Of course not, it's not even close to the limits of her battery. By design, the safety margin is built into the coils.

 

[Cool-breeze]

That all depends on how you intend to use the mech, doesn't it?

Does someone REALLY need to know all of that stuff if all they intend to do is use a retail topper and retail coils? Why should they learn about coil building and resistance if they aren't building their own coils? How much of an issue is battery safety with retail coils? They are all made to work on eGos after all.


Too many people fall into this "a mech mod is dangerous" mindset. It's FALSE.

A mech mod is no more dangerous than a flashlight, which just so happens to be designed the exact same way. The ONLY thing that is dangerous is YOUR HOMEMADE COILS. Buy a retail coil and it's already designed to work safely with any large enough ecig battery, be it an eGo, regulated mod, or mech mod. If you're using a retail topper you can forget all of those safety fears of yours, someone else has already done all of that for you.

For example, my wife, who uses a 69 mod with an iClear 30s tank. She couldn't even tell you who makes the battery, much less things like the type, mAh rating, amps, or anything else about it. She knows hers is red, and that's about it. Does that put her in any danger? Of course not, it's not even close to the limits of her battery. By design, the safety margin is built into the coils.

I have to slightly disagree. I agree in a mech is as dangerous as the person using it. I also agree that a factory made coil would generally be safer than the homemade for someone learning. Where I disagree (again slightly) is I found a variety of small issues with coils before. To my knowledge I've never gotten a coil with a short but I also have used regulated devices with the safety so I wouldn't have known. We like to think factory made products are at a 'standard' and to a degree they are BUT if you have ever gotten anything with a factory defect you have to acknowledge the possibility it COULD happen.

To the original post: if you NEED to buy an expensive mod I'd say provari just for the learning as someone who is new. I agree with the others that suggested a mvp2 would be a better approach to learning for an easier price. If I was personally given the choice I'd want a high end mech. Why? Because I own a provari and love it. A lot! But I do not own a mech... Yet

 

[Credo]

Since you already have a Nemisis style mod...just drop in a Kick or Crown if you want to regulate the power.

 

[digital_karma]

ok I think I'll try to study first the rebuilding part and here's my first build using 3mm wick & .28 gauge wire. next project is micro coil with cotton but before that I should buy an ohm meter.

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