provari vs full mech pv
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The OP already said he has a cyclone afc. That's a rda.
People have experienced shorts in the 510 connection, in switches and in production attys. Unsafe battery wrappers have caused batteries to short when the switch was activated. K100 tubes have been screwed on too tight and they have auto-fired. Shiite happens
Mech mods safe or unsafe? IMO they are less safe than regulated mods but neither is completely safe. Mech mods depend on the user much more than regulated mods for safety. I would not give my wife a mechanical mod if she vaped. She is not mechanically inclined or technical enough and that combination is too much of a risk for me. YMMV.
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Greetings, welcome to the forum.
Neither option will give you everything you might want in a vape, and eventually you'll probably want both. No one can really tell you what's the best choice for you at this point, because the answer depends on your personal preferences.
-- Glenn
Neither option will give you everything you might want in a vape, and eventually you'll probably want both. No one can really tell you what's the best choice for you at this point, because the answer depends on your personal preferences.
-- Glenn
well maybe I'm to mech mod. maybe laziness strikes me, so I need to read ask & experience rebuilding it first hand to fully grasp the idea of using mech mod & a rda! since I've already tried twice in rebuilding a cyclone with single coil, I'll continue this path! thanks to all of you guys!
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I have to slightly disagree. I agree in a mech is as dangerous as the person using it. I also agree that a factory made coil would generally be safer than the homemade for someone learning. Where I disagree (again slightly) is I found a variety of small issues with coils before. To my knowledge I've never gotten a coil with a short but I also have used regulated devices with the safety so I wouldn't have known. We like to think factory made products are at a 'standard' and to a degree they are BUT if you have ever gotten anything with a factory defect you have to acknowledge the possibility it COULD happen.
To the original post: if you NEED to buy an expensive mod I'd say provari just for the learning as someone who is new. I agree with the others that suggested a mvp2 would be a better approach to learning for an easier price. If I was personally given the choice I'd want a high end mech. Why? Because I own a provari and love it. A lot! But I do not own a mech... Yet
Also be very aware of If your retail coils are really "Factory", one of my local shops sells "New" coils, and come to find out they "Rebuild" them. I have had in the past a shorted coil from them, which could have been a disaster if I were using that tank on a mechanical.
I personally only trust coils I built myself to be use on my mechanicals.
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Is it really wise to steer a professed new vaper, with again, professed no coil building experience away from a regulated device with built in safety features, to a device that possesses exactly zero? I just don't get that.
I change power levels (voltage, wattage - no difference) with my moods, toppers & liquids. I also have neither the time nor interest in building stuff. For me, variable anything is always preferred.
Every body is different. I'm just happy their are choices for all of us.
Every body is different. I'm just happy their are choices for all of us.
Well I have sold my Provari but not my Mechanicals. Although I do have 3 high powered regulated mods too. I enjoy both regulated and mechanical mods, but need my vape to be at least 20 watts or higher. With Mechanicals I have to be more conscious of my target ohms fo my build to achieve desired watts, with my regulated mods, don't have to concern myself with precise ohm builds and can get a great consistent 30 watt vape. The difference between a mech and a high amp regulated tends to blurr now they are sub ohm capable.
People have experienced shorts in the 510 connection, in switches and in production attys. Unsafe battery wrappers have caused batteries to short when the switch was activated. K100 tubes have been screwed on too tight and they have auto-fired. Shiite happens
Mech mods safe or unsafe? IMO they are less safe than regulated mods but neither is completely safe. Mech mods depend on the user much more than regulated mods for safety. I would not give my wife a mechanical mod if she vaped. She is not mechanically inclined or technical enough and that combination is too much of a risk for me. YMMV.
If it scares you then add a $10 Kick. There, safety problem solved.
As for your wife, do you let her drive, or do you forbid her from owning a car because she doesn't know how to rebuild the engine which can explode or catch fire?
Funny how you will trust someone with 2 tons of steel moving at more than 60mph filled with flammable liquids and an explosive battery. A potentially lethal machine, not only to the driver but to everyone else on the road as well, but you won't trust them with a simple mech mod, isn't it?
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Look at it this way, one is VV/VW and the other is VR. The end result is the same. The only real difference is that a VV/VW determines safe perameters for you, and YOU are the safety feature with VR.
As for which would I choose .......... I took the time to learn how to use any PV you hand me.
As for which would I choose .......... I took the time to learn how to use any PV you hand me.
Complete I get your passion for mech mods but your comparison is apples and oranges. If you're going to use a car analogy then here's what some are saying: Most parents wouldn't give their teenage (first time driver) a Corvette as their first car. the Corvette is far more dangerous to drive (if you don't know what you're doing) than say a Chevy Cruze.
Better, but I would compare it more to a Kawasaki Ninja.
I'm sure it is a perfectly safe ride, if you know what you're doing. But you don't just casually toss the keys to your wife or kid, who has never ridden a motorbike, if they tell you that their car broke down, unless you're a major [insert noun of choice here].
Ummmmmm, would now be a good time to point out the massive flaw with your analogy?
A Corvette is SAFER than a Cruze.
Unless of course you think things like running into the backs of cars and trucks because it takes you 15 feet more to stop from 60mph is safe. What makes you think the Cruze is safe anyways? Just because it's slow? Personally I wouldn't buy my teenage daughter a car that just managed a "Marginal" rating in a crash test, but that's just me.
Still think that was a good analogy?
I get it, I get it.
You're scared of mechs. They frighten you. I totally understand it. It's not rational, but I understand some people just find things scary.
But from a realistic point of view, what safety does your VV/VW mod have that a mech with kick lacks? Or for that matter, if you're REALLY so scared of mechs, then why aren't you equally scared of flashlights which are mechanically identical to a mech mod? Tube, battery, "fire" button, a socket on top which you screw in a device that holds a metal coil or filament that heats up when an electrical current is applied. Do those scare you too?
A flashlight is the same basic design and can be affected the same way by the same flaws. Are they scary? Do you keep flashlights away from your wife and kids?
And for the record, my daughter has been shooting guns and rock climbing since she was 6. Excuse me if I think her mother is mature and capable enough to handle a simple mech mod.
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The OP doesn't have a kick, or at least didn't say he had one. A mech with appropriate batteries can be safely used IF the user is knowledgable about building appropriate coils to the limitations of the battery being used. I got the impression that the OP doesn't really have a clue on exactly what he is trying to accomplish, and that can lead to well, dangerous situations. And a kick isn't exactly newbie friendly, and sorta defeats the purpose of having a mech anyway, IMO.
Obviously you don't get it. I am not scared of mechs. Just like I am not scared of high performance motorcycles. Try again.
Are you trying to say that the OP is your wife?
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To a trained (seasoned) driver maybe. And for some drivers no matter the training or length of time that they've driven it would never be a "safe" choice for them.
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