Provari - What is the real benefit of higher voltage?

[wv2win]

Just a shame the design on the darwin is absolute fail. Exposed LCD screen, and only one battery, swivel atomizer connection, and box mod looks. For one very small tech difference, you sacrifice too much.

If you have only seen it in pictures vs actually holding one, you might be pleasantly surprised on how nice it feels and that it isn't that big at all. There are hundreds of examples of things that "looked" unconvential when they first arrived on the market that we now take for granted and do not view as "strange". When the first "mod" came on the market the reaction was the same and even worse. Now, most put functionality over form and don't give it a second thought. Personally, I like unconventional and do not want to be "just like everyone else". I'm also a Star Trek fan and think of the Darwin as a device that would fit nicely in the 24th century.

 

[wv2win]

the Darwin is nice but I believe the Provari from Provape was the first to use the power regulated circuit, which keeps the volts " watts" at a constant no matter atty resistance or battery level..

No, it's not the same. The ProVari does not adjust the wattage automatically or sense the atty's resistence. The user must do that manually. Only the Darwin has the ability to automatically adjust power output by sensing the atty's resistence.

 

[SmaBob]

How often does the atty change resistance? And by how much? You can read this on the ohm meter. I don't have either but I have ordered a ProVari.

 

[Stownz]

resistance doesn't change enough to even notice Smabob. It's the only leg the darwin guys have to stand on.

 

[IndustrialAction]

So everyone seems enamored with Provari and other adjustable voltage e cigs. In newbie language, what is the real benefit? More vaper? More TH? My only real experience is with an eGo-T.

If money were no object, what would you buy for the ultimate vaping experience and why?

Well, to answer the OP's ACTUAL QUESTION...

VV devices let you customize your experience. You'd be surprised how much the flavor changes even with slight adjustments. For me, I enjoy a nice hot vape with ample throat hit. I live for the sizzle in my cartos and attys. And yes, it is well worth it! I would definitely recommend a ProVari and I've owned just about every device out there.

 

[wv2win]

resistance doesn't change enough to even notice Smabob. It's the only leg the darwin guys have to stand on.

According to the test results, I was told over 4 hours the resistence changed significantly from what I have been told. I am no expert but that was from an electrical engineer. A guy who uses a ProVari also told me the resistence changes significantly with 4-5 hours of use and he is also an EE.

 

[Stosh]

According to the test results, I was told over 4 hours the resistent changed significantly from what I have been told. I am no expert but that was from an electrical engineer. I guy who uses a ProVari also told me the resistence changes significantly with 4-5 hours of use and he is also an EE.

Besides that if you unscrew one atty that's 2.0 ohms and screw in one that's 3.5 omhs there's a big change in resistance. A Darwin is designed to compensate automatically and deliver the same wattage, a Provari can adjust the voltage manually to deliver the same wattage. The wattage determines the temperature, flavor and vapor production.

 

[Traver]

i was kinda looking around for a reply on the low resistance atomizers' difference than that of a usual ones Anyone care to share?

The amount of smoke and hit produced depends on how much power (watts) the atty can use. A lower resistance atty (lower ohms) draws more power from the batterry. More power can vaporize more liquid at a higher temperature. Hence a warmer vape with more hit and smoke. Using a battery with a higher voltage has the same affect, more power to the atty.

 

[IndustrialAction]

Ok, let's not confuse terms here. The ProVari and the Darwin are both variable VOLTAGE devices. Darwin varies the voltage to deliver consistent wattage but the root of what it does is the SAME as any other VV device. The self adjustment is the only differentiator. Changing the voltage setting on a ProVari also affects wattage. It is a simple formula. Darwin can't break Ohm's Law.

As for resistance changes, hit up the Internet. There are actually specific formulas that will calculate the change for you. Since we're not using semi-conductors for our coils, resistance increases steadily as heated. However, vaping devices do not get hot enough for it to be a dramatic change. It is linear and minimal.

 

[hairball]

So everyone seems enamored with Provari and other adjustable voltage e cigs. In newbie language, what is the real benefit? More vaper? More TH? My only real experience is with an eGo-T.

If money were no object, what would you buy for the ultimate vaping experience and why?

Real benefit - having the ability to "dial in" your juices for flavor and TH. I don't really care about TH, so flavor is my thing. Juices taste differently at different volts. I only use standard atty's.

Ultimate vaping experience - the Buzz, the Infinity, and just ordered the ProVari. VV is the only way to go. I don't get much into ohms other than the lower the ohms are in atty's/cartos, burn hotter. Higher ohms are better suited for higher voltage capable mods, burn cooler, can withstand the higher voltage for longevity.

Bottom line is this: What are you looking for in your quest for a perfect vape? Do you want to be able to adjust your juice to your liking? Do you want constant power until the battery dies? If you answer yes, get a VV...you won't be disappointed in them.

The Buzz was the first VV produced and will always be in my lineup. Rugged and durable. They can withstand about anything you throw at them. Mike stands behind his work at notcigs. He also made the Infinity. A little longer and slimmer than the Buzz. Not one that I would take outside to do work but I would the Buzz.

Vapormoon has the VV Saber Touch. Button activates differently than all the rest but is heavier. Another good mod. Another mod I would keep in the house. I don't really know why I feel that way but I do.

Ken's Box Mods - plastic boxes but well built. Big Brother would be the way to go is you want something to carry in your pocket. Little sister, not pocket friendly since she is a lighter plastic.

Joker AV - never owned one but I have seen some "issues" that they have so I looked the other way. May someday I will own one just to try it.

I have a ProVari on order so I can't say anything about it yet.

twalte...once you try VV mods...you won't go back. That's just how great they are. YOU have the ability to change your juice flavor/TH and not the battery telling you you can't.

 

[haft2doit]

VV devices are also regulated so there is limited drop off as the battery loses charge. This keeps the hit consistent as you go about your day. The Provari in particular is exciting because it steps voltage up keeping it the same all the way until it shuts off when battery has died.

 

[IndustrialAction]

VV devices are also regulated so there is limited drop off as the battery loses charge. This keeps the hit consistent as you go about your day. The Provari in particular is exciting because it steps voltage up keeping it the same all the way until it shuts off when battery has died.

Point of clarification...not all VV devices have boost circuits. Early models and less advanced versions simply vary the voltage but they don't boost it giving a truly consistent, long lasting vape.

 

[Richie G]

If money was no issue, I would suggest the new variable volt Darwin from nhaler.com. Unlike any other VV PV, the built in processor in the Darwin automatically adjusts the wattage level to compensate for the changes in the atty's resistence as you vape over time. It provides the ultimate consistent vaping experience at any level the user prefers.

Hey bud. =)

The Darwin simply takes the math out of the equation re: wattage level. Any of the VV mods do the same thing when Ohm's Law is applied. And, once one learns the sweet voltage of spot of a particular atty's resistance, it's just a matter of setting the (now known) voltage applied. IOW... it's really the same thing with any VV.

To the OP... for me, it's not so much about higher voltage as it is about *consistent* voltage and the resulting consistent TH from a VV. Because a voltage booster is incorporated into the circuit, the voltage at the atty remains the same even as the battery voltage inevitably falls off, hence the TH and vapor production (the latter not a biggie to me) is nearly the same from fresh batty to dead.

Rarely do I greatly exceed the normal freshly charged battery voltage with my VV. I'm happy at 4.3 volts or so with both standard and LR attys. YMMV, as they say...

If money were no object... well, what I want doesn't exist yet. I want a mod the size and weight of a Fistpack with the technology of the Provari and a reliable liquid feed system that doesn't look like a piece of half inch pipe is screwed onto it.

I'll wait. =)

 

[IndustrialAction]

Richie, your dream device may be the Eclipse Eq. We'll have to wait to see if it lives up to the hype though.

 

[Richie G]

Richie, your dream device may be the Eclipse Eq. We'll have to wait to see if it lives up to the hype though.

Thanks for the head's up. =) I'll keep an eye out on that one too. Got a link handy?

 

[twalte]

Thank you for all of the input...it was enough to help me realize that VV should be my next step to get consistent wattage (not voltage as I learned). Pulled the trigger and ordered a Provari (3 week wait) as my home/car unit. Darwin was not available for order...must be doing well and sounds fascinating.

e-Go T is still great for convenience and charge, but sounds like a significant improvement in vapor, flavor and TH if I can dial it up a notch. Also going to do a little more research on this recommendation from Rosa on another post: Super T Manufacturing, Innovative manufacturer of electronic cigarette products.

Compared to my $250/month cigarette bill, anything I can do to keep e-cigs satisfying is worth it even if I end up spending about the same amount. (Day 6 for me)

Thanks again for helping me understand the whole point behind VV.!!!

 

[laurel099]

For me it's not totally about variable power but REGULATED power is my holy grail... Different folks look for different things to find their sweet spot. With standard mods I could tell as soon as the voltage dropped a bit...I'd notice the PV just wasn't as satisfying. I started before eGo's came out and for a new person I usually recommend an eGo or up to start as it has that regulated "good to the last draw" type power.

After spending a fortune buying/trying a gazillion mods I can say that you don't have to buy all the latest/greatest honestly. Find what works for you and stick with that until you get the itch or feel like you need to try something else.

Once I started using regulated power I realized I can't go back lol. Can always move forward, but never back

I adore the VV mods though I rarely change voltages as I just want that continuous power delivery.

 

[twalte]

Thanks for the head's up. =) I'll keep an eye out on that one too. Got a link handy?

Here is the link for the Eclipse: The Eclipse eq Personal Vaporizer (Patent Pending) [The Eclipse eq] - $0.00 | Best Electric Cigarette | Electronic Cigarette

 

[haft2doit]

Point of clarification...not all VV devices have boost circuits. Early models and less advanced versions simply vary the voltage but they don't boost it giving a truly consistent, long lasting vape.

yes indeed thats why the provari is exciting. previous vv were consistant as long as the voltage setting was below the voltage of the batteries. I meant to say that. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Pav]

According to the test results, I was told over 4 hours the resistence changed significantly from what I have been told. I am no expert but that was from an electrical engineer. A guy who uses a ProVari also told me the resistence changes significantly with 4-5 hours of use and he is also an EE.

Interesting. How much of a change in the resistance? I use cartomizers for days and subjectively don't really notice a difference for the first couple days (I vape a lot too). I'm assuming that after 3-4 days it just gets gunked up and then it's time to toss it.

I'm a big proponent of consistency and I get enough of that from a good ole ego and 2.0LR Boge carto.