Provari which battery is best

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Ok just wondering what is the best battery to use on the Provari ? I bought the ones they sell when I bought the unit but notice they run out kinda quick. Now I see people using different types on their different mods. I see a lot of panasonic batteries purple etc. Which batteries do you guys tend to stay with the trusty AW IMR's sold at provape or have you found another battery vendor that has better batteries?Any insight is appreciated.
 

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With a Provari you'll need the button top.
If you get something without button tops you'll have to tweak them out somehow which could void your warranty.
You might find another brand with good specs and a button top, but it might be a little too long (so you'd have thread overhang when screwing the mod together), or too short which could possibly lead to a loose/rattling battery (might need risky spacers to fix).

As far as I know the best battery known to fit just right in a Provari will be the AW brand, as that's what was used to design it.

AFAIK the 18650 AW IMR batteries that'll work well in the Provari come in 1600mah and 2000mah variants.

AFAIK the only 18490 worthy of going into a Provari is the AW 18490 1100 mah button top. While you might find other 18490 button tops that will fit, you'll have a hard time finding a better battery in this size.

AFAIK the only 18350 worthy of going into a Provari is the AW brand. I've seen them come in 550mah and 700mah variations. For this size battery, again, AW is the way to go.

Here's an interesting vaping calculator where you can get an idea of what kind of vape time you should be getting.
Battery drain | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators
 
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I asked Provape why they specifically recommended AW batteries in following link:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/524874-question-tech-engineers-provape.html


"Hey Bad. Sorry for the delay, but it is finally here .... and long.

There are four (4) aspects of the battery and its use that need to be understood and factored in for this discussion. They are:

1) The maximum continuous discharge rate specification of the cell
2) The internal resistance of the cell
3) The application of the cell
4) The cell lithium ion chemistry

The cell ratings are based on a continuous discharge. The application is intermittent duty, by its nature not continuous, so a cell can be intermittently be pushed somewhat harder than its continuous rating in this type of application. The Provari when supplying its maximum output power (14.5 Watts) will need to draw a maximum average current from the cell of 5.2 amps. While it is true that the pulse current can be as high as 9 amps, the duration of these pulse currents is less than 10 microseconds and is not as important as the total average current drawn.

The 5.2 amps is when the cell is at end of charge and the output is adjusted to maximum power out, so it is an absolute worst case situation.

This situation is important because any manufacturer of a high quality device needs to account for the worst case conditions his product will be exposed to in its application.

When compared to the 6 amp continuous rating of the AW18350 cell it passes with some acceptable margin. The AW18490 and AW18650 have even better margins.

BUT just as important, is the safer lithium ion chemistry and very low internal resistance of the AW cells. Other lithium-ion chemistry and higher internal resistance cells will not perform to the level of the AW cells and therefore reduce the overall experience when used. The cost of these other cells when comparing their performance and safety are just not worth it.

There are cells that claim to have the same or better capacity as the AW cell BUT their internal resistance is inferior. If the cell has a higher internal resistance it will drop more voltage when current is taken out and as a result the ProVari will indicate it is at end of charge when it could have a significant amount of capacity remaining.

What good is this capacity if it cannot be utilized by the ProVari? It is of NO use, so why use it?

We will ONLY recommend cells that our engineering tests show will allow the ProVari to perform at its best."

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So according to that calculator, running a .9 ohm coil with a 18350, 700 mAh battery will net me only 14 minutes of puff time? Say my average puff is 5 seconds, wich means 12 puffs per minute which equals 168 puffs... Now I see why extra batteries may be needed...
If you are truly trying to run a 0.8 coil on a Provari, you need to bump that up to at least a 1.3 ohm. The Provari was not designed to run coils lower than 1.2 ohm. No sub-ohm for you!

18350 batteries should not be used for sub-ohm vaping anyway.
 
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I am currently using the mini but have the extenders so I can use all the way up to the 18650's . But like the small size and feel and its mainly why i went with the mini to use the smaller batteries . Now i use the kayfun 3.1 at 1.4ohm coil burn at 3.4 volts. And just wondered why these batteries only last half the day . One lasted longer almost all day then I bought another one and it lasted half the day as did my third battery . the 18490 last all day or most of it ..the 18650 all day no problem other than the size . My sig shows Provari 2.5 mini..and that is what I really like in the Provari the size..Now I know other batteries are used that out perform the one i use and wondered if anyone has tried A battery that just rocked in the small 18350 if you need any other info let me know. I vape all day as my sig says custards lol...if that makes any difference.
 

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I am currently using the mini but have the extenders so I can use all the way up to the 18650's . But like the small size and feel and its mainly why i went with the mini to use the smaller batteries . Now i use the kayfun 3.1 at 1.4ohm coil burn at 3.4 volts. And just wondered why these batteries only last half the day . One lasted longer almost all day then I bought another one and it lasted half the day as did my third battery . the 18490 last all day or most of it ..the 18650 all day no problem other than the size . My sig shows Provari 2.5 mini..and that is what I really like in the Provari the size..Now I know other batteries are used that out perform the one i use and wondered if anyone has tried A battery that just rocked in the small 18350 if you need any other info let me know. I vape all day as my sig says custards lol...if that makes any difference.

When it comes to a high drain 18350 battery, the AW IMR 700mah is really hard to beat. Sometimes you can find other brands rated at 800mah instead of 700mah, but in my experience the AW hits harder, and lasts just as long.

Same for the 18490 size. AFAIK, the AW 1100mah is as good as it gets.

In 18650 sizes...you might can find something as good or better than the AW, but if it doesn't have a proper button top you could end up voiding your warranty. Sticking with the AW IMR 1600mah or 2000mah is the officially recommended route.
 

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I have a high regard for AW IMR's myself. I haven't dove into the mech world yet, but I think that's where the line is drawn between AW IMR and alternative batteries. Panasonic batteries seem to have a high following for mechanical mods, but they have built in protection to keep you safe(r) with the mech mods. If I'm not mistaken, a protected battery doesn't play nice with the Provari circuitry.

Also, I think I'm right in the belief that using anything BUT an AW IMR will void your warranty. I just ordered a Dovpo E-LVT, and a pair of 18650 batteries to boot. One for the E-LVT and one for the Provari, accompanied by the extension cap. Took me 6 months to finally pull the trigger on the ex-cap lol
 

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I agree with Credo. In the 18350 & 18490 size you can't beat the AW's.

Efest's 18350 claims to have 100 mAh more, but I tried a couple last summer and was pretty disappointed with them compared to the AW's. Efest has been said to overstate their battery specifications, and now I believe that to be true.

Efest's 18490 1100 mAh only has a 8.8 amp rating, while AW's 1100 mah has a 16.8 amp rating, so it is far superior to the Efest.
 

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Also, I think I'm right in the belief that using anything BUT an AW IMR will void your warranty.
It won't void the warranty if you don't use an AW, but Provape does go out of their way to recommend them at least 4 times on their product page. Only using flat top batteries with a magnet to make them button top will void the warranty, as this is an unsafe battery practice which could destroy the circuit board.
 

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It won't void the warranty if you don't use an AW, but Provape does go out of their way to recommend them at least 4 times on their product page. Only using flat top batteries with a magnet to make them button top will void the warranty, as this is an unsafe battery practice which could destroy the circuit board.

Ah, thanks for the clarification. I certainly don't see any reason to use an inferior battery in my precious though haha. Imr batteries don't seem lacking at all to me

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So I'm assuming I can't use a flat top 30 amp AW 18650 in my Provari?

AW does not make a flat top battery. Nor do they make a 30 amp battery.

AW IMR button top batteries:

18650 2000mah 10 Amp continuous discharge rate
18650 1600mah 24 Amp
18490 1100mah 16.5 Amp
18350 ​700mah 6 Amp
 
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