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Katdarling

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geesh glad i didnt ask the question lol you vets kinda got lil defensive there for a min.......though i kno u guys here these kinda threads alot bout the provari.
I asked BSP last night on vapetv similar question about the provari, instead of jumping on me be about how if i didn't want one i didn't need one, he so graciously answered my questions via his opinion from using not one but two in rotation. Because of his answers I am actually trying to find a vaper or shop near me that has one I may be able to check out before deciding 100% on the purchase(which would be next year lol)......I will most likely get one toward my brithday in june but myself initialy had the same type of questions. Just glad that win i asked a honest question i didn't get jumped on because i was trying get info from others experience(like the op).......that would have probably turned me off of it for a while.

I know its repetative for the vets these same type of question but if some one questions honestly they shouldn't be assumed to be trying do anything other then seek info......but hey i am probaly wrong i only been at this a week or so lol

Lee, I'm sorry that you felt the vets were defensive. I think it has to do more with what Thrasher just said... that those who own a Provari aren't really being asked a question. It truly is more common than not that people will open a thread stating what they think they don't like about the device, or why is it so "overpriced". Where do we go with that when we commonly think that it is not?

Perhaps there is a degree of frustration, which is however no excuse to "jump on" newer members or older members seeking advice. It's been mentioned here that these threads pop up all the time, and people are not doing any homework at all to read and investigate some of the answers.

Maybe there needs to be a Provari sticky somewhere that includes links such as Bad and Thrasher have provided...

... or a Baditude Blog? ;)
 

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Masterchief, don't be too hard on our young friend. The Provari is a chunk of change to put down on a device and he may be having second thoughts, and/or trying to alleviate any doubts that he has before making a decision.

I've been through my "buy everything" phases in the last 3.5 years, and still experience them now and again. While most of the devices I have bought are no longer are in use, the Provari's I've bought have been silent sentinels that have stayed with me for the last 2 years. I use them everyday, and they have not disappointed me once.

I have never had a single device in the entire time that I have been vaping that has been as consistent as my Provaris, not a one..

I am not trying to be hard on anyone. There is a lot of reasons a person won't or can't buy a ProVari.
I just don't understand when they do realize they are not getting one why they have to bad mouth ProVari?
ProVari cost is $159.95 and there are so many Mods that cost a lot more then that.
I just googled a few just to see what they say they cost and,
Check out these:
Steampunks Mod as high as $500
Orion-v3 $339.00 on sale for $275.00
The Juggernaut – Hybrid $235.00
Chi You Mod at $225
The King Mod $230
Caravela costs $204 Yea I wish I could find a Caravela for $204 but that's what Google says.
 

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If you are satisfied paying only $65 for a PV, then you won't appreciate a Provari. Just saying.


I'm sorry, that's just a snob attitude. And it is an attitude I don't buy into. Fact is there are a lot of small issues with the Provari that cheaper products are addressing. It has some solid Pros, but it also has some very real cons to it as well. Each person has to make up their own mind whether it is worth the price. It's a steel tube. It's not going to change your life. It's not the end all be all that people make it out to be. It's just a product. I own a Mac as well as several PCs. My wife has an iPhone. I have Android. They are all just products. I really don't get the undying loyalty people develop over "things". If only they had that kind of loyalty towards other people the world might be a very different place. :D

If you've got a problem with answering the questions, then don't. This is a forum. It is the nature of forums to see the same questions repeated by many different people. Welcome to being on a FORUM. If you stick around long enough, everything will eventually seem like Deja Vu. Maybe you've been around too long and need to take a break for a bit.

Back to the Provari, is it a good product? Sure. Is it worth the price? I don't know, is it worth the price to you? I just watched a review last night about another product going for $600.00 or so (U.S. it was a U.K. produced Mod in Titanium). So Provari's are NOT even close to being the most expensive out there.

If you are having doubts about spending that kind of money, then maybe you should not be spending that kind of money. Sometimes it can actually be a relief to just make the decision to be happy with what you have and stop trying to fill the void with the next big thing.

Phil Busardo was reviewing some tank or another recently and he was using his Provari to do the review: One of the issues he pointed out on it was how the top cap had no grooves and this caused the tank, when screwed down, to lose all airflow. This is an issue that has been addressed by "cheaper" mods. Is it a deal breaker? I don't know, is it?

What I do know is that when a "product" reaches that "lengedary" status, people start acting like it is Jesus Christ incarnate (doesn't matter what the product is). It's going to have its pros and cons, you just have to realize that a certain segment of the population will always only tell you why you MUST have something (I have no idea why, perhaps they want to see you spend a lot of money too? Maybe it makes them feel better?) but won't tell you about little issues they may encounter.

The OP clearly wants the Provari. He also clearly knows he probably shouldn't be spending the cash on it for whatever reason. With all the posts he has made. I'd say he needs to put his wallet back in his pocket until he can get it without the guilt he seems to be struggling with. :D
 
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Most ProVari owners have owned and used cheaper end devices so it's true, we have experienced both and so touting the ProVari comes from experiencing it and comparing it to other devices. I don't know what people think they are so expensive. There's lots of devices that are more expensive.

I agree with Bad, if you are fine with a cheaper end PV, then great. There's no reason to spend the money on a ProVari.
 

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I am not trying to be hard on anyone. There is a lot of reasons a person won't or can't buy a ProVari.
I just don't understand when they do realize they are not getting one why they have to bad mouth ProVari?
ProVari cost is $159.95 and there are so many Mods that cost a lot more then that.
I just googled a few just to see what they say they cost and,
Check out these:
Steampunks Mod as high as $500
Orion-v3 $339.00 on sale for $275.00
The Juggernaut – Hybrid $235.00
Chi You Mod at $225
The King Mod $230
Caravela costs $204 Yea I wish I could find a Caravela for $204 but that's what Google says.

dont forget
the semovar - 300 for the kit
the futura - 245
the wizard evolved for 550
on and on
 

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    I'm sorry, that's just a snob attitude. And it is an attitude I don't buy into. Fact is there are a lot of small issues with the Provari that cheaper products are addressing. It has some solid Pros, but it also has some very real cons to it as well. Each person has to make up their own mind whether it is worth the price. It's a steel tube. It's not going to change your life. It's not the end all be all that people make it out to be. It's just a product. I own a Mac as well as several PCs. My wife has an iPhone. I have Android. They are all just products. I really don't get the undying loyalty people develop over "things". If only they had that kind of loyalty towards other people the world might be a very different place. :D

    If you've got a problem with answering the questions, then don't. This is a forum. It is the nature of forums to see the same questions repeated by many different people. Welcome to being on a FORUM. If you stick around long enough, everything will eventually seem like Deja Vu. Maybe you've been around too long and need to take a break for a bit.


    Back to the Provari, is it a good product? Sure. Is it worth the price? I don't know, is it worth the price to you? I just watched a review last night about another product going for $600.00 or so (U.S. it was a U.K. produced Mod in Titanium). So Provari's are NOT even close to being the most expensive out there.

    If you are having doubts about spending that kind of money, then maybe you should not be spending that kind of money. Sometimes it can actually be a relief to just make the decision to be happy with what you have and stop trying to fill the void with the next big thing.

    But that's the problem, there was no question ... just a rant.
     

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    geesh glad i didnt ask the question lol you vets kinda got lil defensive there for a min.......though i kno u guys here these kinda threads alot bout the provari.
    I asked BSP last night on vapetv similar question about the provari, instead of jumping on me be about how if i didn't want one i didn't need one, he so graciously answered my questions via his opinion from using not one but two in rotation. Because of his answers I am actually trying to find a vaper or shop near me that has one I may be able to check out before deciding 100% on the purchase(which would be next year lol)......I will most likely get one toward my brithday in june but myself initialy had the same type of questions. Just glad that win i asked a honest question i didn't get jumped on because i was trying get info from others experience(like the op).......that would have probably turned me off of it for a while.

    I know its repetative for the vets these same type of question but if some one questions honestly they shouldn't be assumed to be trying do anything other then seek info......but hey i am probaly wrong i only been at this a week or so lol

    I didn't see anything defensive in the responses. He said he wouldn't buy one, so the posters agreed that he did not need to. Nobody in The ProVarinati is making a living selling ProVari mods. I don't care if you get one or not on an emotional level. I encourage those considering a ProVari to make the purchase.

    I wish I had gotten mine before I got a Vamo, Lavatube, eVic, etc. So when asked for my opinion, I tell them what I like about the ProVari compared to those mods that I have used which I find to be clearly inferior to it for my vaping profile. For other vapers, it may not be much different. They may make another choice. That is okay. So when I say, "don't get it if you don't like it" it is because I don't need you or someone else to buy it to make me feel the best mod available is in my hands. This is not defensiveness, it is simply an acknowledgement that the ProVari is not for everyone.

    I have two, and will likely purchase a third before the year is out. I sold most of my "throwaway" mods because they were a greatly inferior value in my mind. Your assessment of it won't affect the way I appraise my ProVari. Vaping taste is subjective, so get what you think is the best value to you.

    Happy Vaping!


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    Why I find the ProVari superior:

    1) Its output voltage is within 1/2% from the first puff from a fresh battery until the battery drops below cut out. No other mod I have ever tried comes close. The Vamo and eVic are at best a +/- 10% accuracy. The issue with both of those mods for me was, when the battery voltage dropped, so did the output voltage. The greater the difference between the voltage setting and the battery voltage remaining, the less accurate the device becomes.
    2) The device is much more reliable than any other mod I have tried. I broke my eVic within a month of purchasing it, and bought a second head for 70 bucks. I broke my first Vamo within two months of purchase. My second Vamos threads were worn out by the time I got rid of it (six months after purchase). My older ProVari has been subjected to far greater abuse and has not skipped a beat. It does not even show any external signs of wear. Since I am in the field 40% of the time I work, having a reliable device in my pocket is critical. I don't want to carry three mods if there is a problem with my primary. When I put my ProVari in my pocket on my way to work, I know I am set.
    3) Provape's service is the best in the industry.
    4) The ohm checker is far more accurate on a ProVar than either a Vamo or an eVic. Since the VW mod requires accurate ohms and voltage outputs to be accurate, I find this feature on an eVic or Vamo to be virtually useless. It will not function as "set and forget" because the output wattage at 100% battery power is likely to be much more than the output wattage at 40% battery power. For me, this makes VW on either device a useless feature.
    5) The threading outclasses both the Vamo or the eVic by miles. I have never, ever heard of a ProVari with "worn threads". There have been a myriad of them on this site from Vamo and eVic. The threading is the only interface that makes the device useable. Why would I rely on a device with soft threading? I won't.
     
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    I'm sorry, that's just a snob attitude. And it is an attitude I don't buy into. Fact is there are a lot of small issues with the Provari that cheaper products are addressing. It has some solid Pros, but it also has some very real cons to it as well. Each person has to make up their own mind whether it is worth the price. It's a steel tube. It's not going to change your life. It's not the end all be all that people make it out to be. It's just a product. I own a Mac as well as several PCs. My wife has an iPhone. I have Android. They are all just products. I really don't get the undying loyalty people develop over "things". If only they had that kind of loyalty towards other people the world might be a very different place. :D

    If you've got a problem with answering the questions, then don't. This is a forum. It is the nature of forums to see the same questions repeated by many different people. Welcome to being on a FORUM. If you stick around long enough, everything will eventually seem like Deja Vu. Maybe you've been around too long and need to take a break for a bit.

    Back to the Provari, is it a good product? Sure. Is it worth the price? I don't know, is it worth the price to you? I just watched a review last night about another product going for $600.00 or so (U.S. it was a U.K. produced Mod in Titanium). So Provari's are NOT even close to being the most expensive out there.

    If you are having doubts about spending that kind of money, then maybe you should not be spending that kind of money. Sometimes it can actually be a relief to just make the decision to be happy with what you have and stop trying to fill the void with the next big thing.

    Doug, allow me to be the first to show some loyalty to humans, rather than a tube mod. What you said makes me sad. Shall we toss the old vets onto icebergs and let them float away? To say that to and about someone who has contributed countless hours gathering and giving pertinent, clear, sage advice and information to everyone... welp, I am saddened by what you said.

    Just as you may think someone has been around "too long", perhaps there are others that might believe you have not been here long enuf. Sigh... it's a matter of scales.

    Attack the post, not the poster.
     

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    dont forget
    the semovar - 300 for the kit
    the futura - 245
    the wizard evolved for 550
    on and on

    See this is what I don't understand why don't people bad mouth them? Are they the Perfect mod? Am I missing something?
    To me ProVari is in the middle in Price range. You got your Cheap Mods $10- $100, Mid-Range $100-$250, High End $250-$500

    Yea I am sure there are more expensive but for me that is how I think.:)
     

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    I'm sorry, that's just a snob attitude. And it is an attitude I don't buy into. Fact is there are a lot of small issues with the Provari that cheaper products are addressing. It has some solid Pros, but it also has some very real cons to it as well. Each person has to make up their own mind whether it is worth the price. It's a steel tube. It's not going to change your life. It's not the end all be all that people make it out to be. It's just a product. I own a Mac as well as several PCs. My wife has an iPhone. I have Android. They are all just products. I really don't get the undying loyalty people develop over "things". If only they had that kind of loyalty towards other people the world might be a very different place. :D
    My comment wasn't meant to come across as snobby. But I meant it quite literally. If you are happy with a $65 mod, then good for you. I have no problem with that at all. I applaud you for staying off the smokes with it. I have different expections for a mod than you, and yours are different from mine.

    But do not lump me into the fanboy club. I always give a reason WHY I believe a Provari is worth the extra money. The reason is it is not in the same class of mods compared to anything made for under $150. Unless you have used one for any length of time, or owned one, there is no way to justify that a Provari is not worth its price. As someone else has said, I don't give a flying fruitbat what you think. (Not being a hater, its just an expression.) The fact that many Provari owners own more than one Provar is testament that they can justify its price.

    If you've got a problem with answering the questions, then don't. This is a forum. It is the nature of forums to see the same questions repeated by many different people. Welcome to being on a FORUM. If you stick around long enough, everything will eventually seem like Deja Vu. Maybe you've been around too long and need to take a break for a bit.
    I didn't end up with 12,500 posts because I have a problem answering people's questions. I devote a lot of my free time to help people with my knowledge and experience on this forum. I sometimes get tired of people who ask the same questions over and over when a Google search that takes 5 seconds will provide the same answers as we can. Sometimes just looking down the forum page a similar question has been asked with 20 pages of responses.

    There's also the trolls that intentionally start threads to bash Provari owners. Don't get me started on them. As Thrasher pointed out, we can provide answers to "Why a Provari?" and it's never enough. Then fine, don't buy one. You asked...we answered. If you've already decided you don't want a Provari, why did you ask about it in the first place?

    If you are having doubts about spending that kind of money, then maybe you should not be spending that kind of money. Sometimes it can actually be a relief to just make the decision to be happy with what you have and stop trying to fill the void with the next big thing.
    Totally agree.
     
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    This is exactly what I found when doing research before buying a ProVari - except there wasn't many devices in the $75 - $150 range. They best buys on ProVaris are in the classifieds. Buying a used one is a pretty good deal, it is really hard to beat up a ProVari so most of them are in great condition.


    See this is what I don't understand why don't people bad mouth them? Are they the Perfect mod? Am I missing something?
    To me ProVari is in the middle in Price range. You got your Cheap Mods $10- $100, Mid-Range $100-$250, High End $250-$500

    Yea I am sure there are more expensive but for me that is how I think.:)
     

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    But that's the problem, there was no question ... just a rant.

    The OP wants us to convince him to either buy it or to convince him not to and in my experience that means they are thinking about doing something that they really shouldn't be doing at the moment. :D
     

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    I started on the ego twists, went to the Vamo(4 of them, still pluggin along) and was this [....] close to buying a provari to see if it truly is my endgame vaping device. And guess what, they dont take Amex... DOH :facepalm:

    Guess im stuck with my vamo's :blink:

    If they work for you, great. On the other hand, they have worked out badly for others...

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    So what your saying is a Ford Fiesta price $13,320 - $17,120 is the same as a Porsche 911 Carrera price $ 84,300.00 - $ 88,380.00?
    I mean the 911 came out in 1963 so it is out dated right? They both do the same thing, And you can get the same or more options in the Fiesta. So according to you only a fool would buy a 911 over the Fiesta?
    Well good luck with that, and I think a Vamo v5 would look great in a Fiesta...:)





    Easy on the young fellow... Maybe he's just getting his frustrations out; or perhaps was looking into latest technology and capabilities, and is wondering when will Provape do the same... It's all good... Comparing a 63 model high priced car to a 2013 fiesta; not too fair or accurate. The 911's technology didn't stay in 63; it evolved.

    Let's just understand that owning an outstanding Provari (or 2, 3, .....) it's going to be subject for others criticism and envy.
     
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