PSA: Cherry Bomber mech box mod is just that.. A bomb. Do not use.

[hypocritelecteur]

By people too ignorant and uneducated enough to understand it?

Maybe we should educate them first.

You understand that the FDA employs actual scientists and field experts, right?
Do they make bad calls from time to time? Yes.
Are they among the most highly qualified public health organizations in the world? Yes.

What on earth is rando internet citizen 'Bad Ninja' qualified to teach the FDA other than the power of Dunning-Kruger?

 

[Bad Ninja]

You understand that the FDA employs actual scientists and field experts, right?
Do they make bad calls from time to time? Yes.
Are they among the most highly qualified public health organizations in the world? Yes.

What on earth are you qualified to teach the FDA other than the power of Dunning-Kruger?

A lot actually, just based on my degree and 22 years experience running a successful ethical business, but this isn't about me.

This is a thread about the cherry bomber.

The FDA doesn't regulate battery boxes.

 

[hypocritelecteur]

Thanks, I was about to eat my mod.
That was clearly an example. This industry requires regulations across several agencies. All of these agencies employ experts. This should not have to be spelled out.

 

[vapero]

Thanks, I was about to eat my mod.
That was clearly an example. This industry requires regulations across several agencies. All of these agencies employ experts. This should not have to be spelled out.

I have to take ninjas side here, the fda is qualified and educated, but their moral compass is a whole other thing. I'm in mexico and our "fda" decided to ban everything that threatens big tobacco or big tobacco tax

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[hypocritelecteur]

Well, there are definitely entrenched interests--especially in Mexico--but people that think there's a conspiracy between big tobacco and the FDA in the states are just bonkers. Those two organizations have been fighting tooth and nail for decades. The FDA was very effective at curtailing many of the tobacco companies' slimiest shenanigans. Its a multigenerational feud ever since. Now, tobacco might try to manipulate proposed measures legislatively but to imply that they are acting in coordination is utter tripe.

And we're in tangent land, so whatevs

And actually, depending on things get set up, the FDA very might well be the ones in charge of regulating both e-liquids and devices. Since the tobacco wars they have been given special jurisdiction over tobacco products. You don't need a device to make a cigarette smokable, so there's no clear precedent that I am aware of and there are grounds to wrap it all up under the FDA tobacco jurisdiction. Wouldn't shock me if they are the ones that end up setting standards across the industry for devices and the liquids they vaporize.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Well, there are definitely entrenched interests--especially in Mexico--but people that think there's a conspiracy between big tobacco and the FDA in the states are just bonkers. Those two organizations have been fighting tooth and nail for decades. The FDA was very effective at curtailing many of the tobacco companies' slimiest shenanigans. Its a multigenerational feud ever since. Now, tobacco might try to manipulate proposed measures legislatively but to imply that they are acting in coordination is utter tripe.

And we're in tangent land, so whatevs

And actually, depending on things get set up, the FDA very might well be the ones in charge of regulating both e-liquids and devices. Since the tobacco wars they have been given special jurisdiction over tobacco products. You don't need a device to make a cigarette smokable, so there's no clear precedent that I am aware of and there are grounds to wrap it all up under the FDA tobacco jurisdiction. Wouldn't shock me if they are the ones that end up setting standards across the industry for devices and the liquids they vaporize.

Again, wrong thread.
You're gonna get this one closed if you continue to go off topic.

And FYI:
There are already industries that regulate flashlights, and car cigarette lighters.

The FDA has nothing to do with either.

If the FDA wanted to stop vapers they would restrict liquid nicotine extract sales.

It would kill the industry overnight.

That said, the FDA has been corrupt for decades. If you pay them enough they will approve gasoline as health food.

 

[hypocritelecteur]

Don't continue this off topic conversation, he says, as he continues the off-topic conversation...

The FDA has special jurisdiction over tobacco products. Look it up. Read some laws. The question is whether they'll use the current ambiguity to place devices and liquids under that jurisdiction. This is why whether vaping devices qualify as tobacco products is so important.

Again, I don't really care about your arguments and I'll talk with you about anything as long as it keeps the self-firing mod PSA at the top of the page.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Don't continue this off topic conversation, he says, as he continues the off-topic conversation...

The FDA has special jurisdiction over tobacco products. Look it up. Read some laws. The question is whether they'll use the current ambiguity to place devices and liquids under that jurisdiction. This is why whether vaping devices qualify as tobacco products is so important.

Again, I don't really care about your arguments and I'll talk with you about anything as long as it keeps the self-firing mod PSA at the top of the page.

Funny how the only people bashing the CB don't own one.
The owners here don't have any problems.
The mod can't "self fire".
Only the uneducated would think that.

And so you are admittedly trolling the thread.
Gotcha.

Mods will finish this off.

 

[hypocritelecteur]

I am not trolling... I am making points that for some reason really bother you.

You realize this issue was posted as a PSA by a mod with a video of it occuring?

 

[DaveSignal]

I agree that this thread has continued for far too long. There is a few people who don't own the mod and aren't familiar with mechs posting that they don't think anyone should have the opportunity to use this mod since they saw some videos on youtube. These are the same people who want more government regulations and less choices for consumers. And there are multiple real owners of the mod who have posted that they don't have any issues. Many of these real owners think the mod is a very good mech.

The above paragraph covers this whole 8-page thread. Anyone interested in a CB can make their own decision.

 

[Jman8]

The majority of vapers use clearomizers, don't understand ohms law, and can't build a coil.

Hey, that would be me.

The majority of vapers should obviously avoid a CB.

Life has no ego.
Life doesn't care if you think you are an "expert".
Knowledge balances risk.

I use a CB every day and have never had a problem.

"Accidents" by a vaper aren't a design flaw, it's user error.
One must take responsibility for ones own actions, accidental or otherwise.
Such is adult life.

And with all that said, I am prone to avoid a CB, but not because of what OP is saying and because of what you are saying. I don't think CB manufacturers will care all that much and I now realize if I do wish to use this, I'll just want to get more informed about care and intended use for the product.

The product looks really nifty and appears like it would be great to use. I'm very glad @Bad Ninja and @DaveP chimed in with what appears to me like a sensible rebuttal to an overinflated concern of OP.

 

[gin828]

As with anything....use it the way it was designed and you wont have any issues. To many people nowadays wanna save the world over their lack of common sense. They think that the world should coddle them because of their ignorance. There is no design flaw....it doesnt magically auto-fire. Fear mongers lack the understanding of mechanical's and the only thing they bring to the debate is design flaw....because heaven forbid they admit that they are incompetent to use it safely.....

 

[gin828]

What if your car ignition had a recall for its wiring possibly going 12V hot around the key housing? If someone sticks a key in it and shorts it out, does that make them inexperienced drivers?

Just stirring the pot a little...

No...it does not make them inexperienced drivers. The key switch failed it did not work as designed. If you put the wrong key in the ignition and it shorts out is that a design flaw?

 

[KennedyKills]

I'm always so happy when I check the mech mod forums and see this thread still here

 

[erichpatterson]

I have a CB. It has some quirks, but the overall performance is outstanding. I had no spring or button issues, but upgraded to a magnetic switch quickly.

My level of mechanical/electricity/battery knowledge has grown tremendously since I first started vaping, so I'm just as comfortable using the CB as I am an mvp. If you have a curious mind, believe in safety, and want to buy one, then I certainly think you will not regret it.

 

[WillieB69]

Fact still remains that it IS a Turd.
Actually worse than a Turd as a Turd doesn't have the distinct inherent Possibility/Probability to Injure and/or Maim.

Apparently you've never been badly constipated while fighting hemorrhoids...... Which, going by the logic in this thread, means there is a design flaw in our butts!