PSA: Cherry Bomber mech box mod is just that.. A bomb. Do not use.

[Froth]

if a mod can be fired without using the switch ( the only thing that was meant to make it fire) then there is a flaw on the design

You can fire a bottom switch tube mod with the switch removed entirely just by shorting the outside tube to the battery negative with something as simple as a house key... almost every bottom switch mechanical tube mod made can be fired this way, as you're simply completing the circuit. By your own definition, 90% of all mechanical mods are a flawed design.

Funny how this was never a problem when the authentic with low production numbers was in the hands of people who were going to care for it, as they spent $200+ on it. Now with fifteen different types of clones being made every tom dick and jane has one...we have all these complaints and warnings about them being dangerous? Perhaps the problem isn't with the mod, it's with the perception of "danger".

http://www.pfa.org/firesafe/CFSC_facts.pdf

Direct quote:

There were 25,600 smoking-material structure fires in the United States in 2003.

I smoked a pack a day+ for over 10 years and never burned anything down because I was always acutely aware that there was a burning stick in my hand, from my perspective the stupidity of others which causes them personal harm isn't really my responsibility. Dumb is dumb, if you're going to hurt yourself with a mod that only auto-fires in a VERY specific scenario...then you were probably going to hurt yourself with something more innocuous anyway.

Bottom line, you can take the batteries out in less than 10 seconds, take them out when it's not being used. How hard is that?

 

[vapero]

You can fire a bottom switch tube mod with the switch removed entirely just by shorting the outside tube to the battery negative with something as simple as a house key... almost every bottom switch mechanical tube mod made can be fired this way, as you're simply completing the circuit. By your own definition, 90% of all mechanical mods are a flawed design....

you said it, with the switch removed is just like carrying bare batteries in a pocket, that is not normal use

if you use this mod with a pom top cap then you won't have this issues but 95% of atties have a metal cap and there IS a potential issue that is not stated by the manufacturer

 

[vapero]

I'm all for mechs, haven't used a regulated for 2 years nor plan to, previous to squonking I used exclusively "hybrids" 510 hybrid caps, those have their set of precautions you need to take and that is ok, is part of the concept but this cherry bomber thing IS A FLAW

 

[javyn]

I just don't see the point of this. I love mechs, but it's only tube mechs that get my love. Why opt for a box mechanical over a reg box?

 

[Nivek13]

I received a Cherry bomber box mod from the mod mystery box from myfreedomsmokes...... I haven't even touched it. I have no idea how to use it properly, it honestly scares the crap out of me.... and no one wants it, i cant trade it or anything and ebay is selling it for far less then what i paid for the mystery box.......I'm stuck with it and i probably will never use it....Sucks...

 

[Bad Ninja]

I just don't see the point of this. I love mechs, but it's only tube mechs that get my love. Why opt for a box mechanical over a reg box?

Durabity- All electronic chips will eventually fail. Mechanicals can outlast the owner.

Less voltage drop/ longer Run time- dual 18650s ran parallel give long vape times and split the voltage drop.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I received a Cherry bomber from the mod mystery box.

I have no idea how to use it properly

This is the root of the problem.


Send it back and tell them it's not for you.

When using kanthal to short batteries inside a metal box, so that you can heat a wick and inhale vaporized nicotine, information is crucial to your personal safety.

 

[Nivek13]

This is the root of the problem.


Send it back and tell them it's not for you.

When using kanthal to short batteries inside a metal box, so that you can heat a wick and inhale vaporized nicotine, information is crucial to your personal safety.

I really really wish i could....unfortunately with the mystery box theres a no return no exchange policy. i also recived a caterpiller rda i dont think is that great either....pretty much paid 40$ for some ok juice...

 

[nyiddle]

I really really wish i could....unfortunately with the mystery box theres a no return no exchange policy. i also recived a caterpiller rda i dont think is that great either....pretty much paid 40$ for some ok juice...

I have a Caterpillar (I've had one since it released). For a 12$ RDA it's fine, but it's super leaky because the deck is shallow as all get-out.

Also I'm done arguing whether/not it's a bad mod. The facts are there, and most people seem to come to the same conclusion: Terrible unsafe design. I didn't even realize but there's also a thread by @rolygate which essentially serves as a PSA:

Cherry Bomber box mod - may have auto-on issue | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[Bad Ninja]

I have a Caterpillar (I've had one since it released). For a 12$ RDA it's fine, but it's super leaky because the deck is shallow as all get-out.

Also I'm done arguing whether/not it's a bad mod. The facts are there, and most people seem to come to the same conclusion: Terrible unsafe design. I didn't even realize but there's also a thread by @rolygate which essentially serves as a PSA:

Cherry Bomber box mod - may have auto-on issue | E-Cigarette Forum

It's not for everyone.
I'm sorry to hear you are having problems with your mod.

 

[DaveSignal]

I love my cherry bomber. Its full copper. The heaviest mod that I own. It wouldn't self fire if I put it in my pocket, but I would never put one of my nice copper mech mods in my pocket with other metal things anyway. Who does that? It's metal, copper even. I don't want to scratch up the soft metal. I actually care for my mods. I even polish them. But even if I did put it in my pocket, the weight would probably start pulling my pants down. It was designed the way that it is for superior conductivity. I can make it fire if I put some effort into trying to fire it with a piece of metal. But it requires carefully pushing the metal against it in a certain way... (its trickier with the mephisto v2 that I usually use on it, because it has a delrin insulator on the bottom of the atty) and it doesn't work as well as just using the fire switch. I can also make any other kind of mech mod fire without using the switch through different means if I put some effort into it.

The Cherry Bomber is a mechanical mod. It is designed with the batteries held tightly in place with the contacts short and secure. This thing has less voltage drop than anything else that I own. It requires building sub-ohm coils to get the most out of it. You can build significantly low resistances safely, but it requires knowing a bit about the batteries you are using, and having a good and accurate resistance meter.... and, of course, it helps if you are a master at building coils.

It is clearly not an entry-level mod and isn't marketed that way. It is a highly conductive block of copper marketed toward mechanical enthusiasts.

 

[nyiddle]

It's not for everyone.
I'm sorry to hear you are having problems with your mod.

I'm not having problems with it. I don't own one. I know someone who came to me for vape advice, and as an entry level vaper, he was considering getting one of these. I realize it's an "advanced level" device, but most people won't realize that. They'll think it's just another device and buy it. It's not like there's any documentation explaining that the device will auto-fire. The makers probably didn't know that would happen. The possibility that it can happen is a design flaw.

As an advanced vaper, if I had bought this device without knowing anything about it, taken it home, and experienced an auto-fire during, say, a re-wicking (which seems like a possibility if you're using scissors or tweezers), I would put the device away and never use it again -- maybe even attempt to return it. I've been vaping for ~2 years and if there's anything I can do to keep myself safer while vaping you'll best believe I'll do it.

The purpose of this post wasn't only to say it's a bad device, it was also to let potential buyers (or owners) know that this is a very real possibility, and this is a design flaw that will potentially make owners take a step back and say, "Why did this device go to market?"

I mean, to finish off, you realize that if something were to happen to a novice vaper because of this device the news would jump all over it. They wouldn't question whether it was user error, it'd just be another black mark/another "e-cig caught fire" story. I think it's in everyone's best interest that we try and avoid all the negative reputation we can.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I'm not having problems with it. I don't own one. I know someone who came to me for vape advice, and as an entry level vaper, he was considering getting one of these. I realize it's an "advanced level" device, but most people won't realize that. They'll think it's just another device and buy it. It's not like there's any documentation explaining that the device will auto-fire.

So basically, exactly like I've been saying: it's an advanced user device.

The danger comes from not understanding how it operates before buying. If you understand the dangers, you can use the device safely, as I and many others do.

I don't know of any mechanical mod that comes with an instruction booklet. They are usually advertised as "advanced user items".

The makers probably didn't know that would happen. The possibility that it can happen is a design flaw.

...or they made it for advanced users who understand how it works, and not for entry level vapers.

As an advanced vaper, if I had bought this device without knowing anything about it, taken it home, and experienced an auto-fire during, say, a re-wicking (which seems like a possibility if you're using scissors or tweezers), I would put the device away and never use it again -- maybe even attempt to return it. I've been vaping for ~2 years and if there's anything I can do to keep myself safer while vaping you'll best believe I'll do it.

No offense but an advanced vaper would know the dangers from one look inside, and would buy accordingly. Blindly buying a dual 18650 box mod without understanding how it works isn't the sign of an advanced vaper.

The purpose of this post wasn't only to say it's a bad device, it was also to let potential buyers (or owners) know that this is a very real possibility, and this is a design flaw that will potentially make owners take a step back and say, "Why did this device go to market?"

I agree it's dangerous for a novice vaper to jump on and buy.
But that was not it's intended market.

I mean, to finish off, you realize that if something were to happen to a novice vaper because of this device the news would jump all over it. They wouldn't question whether it was user error, it'd just be another black mark/another "e-cig caught fire" story. I think it's in everyone's best interest that we try and avoid all the negative reputation we can.

I Agree we need to vape safely, but it's on us adults to look out for ourselves.

Look before you leap, ya know?

We need to worry more about regulations due to dependence on cig tax dollars than the über rare "exploding" mod.

 

[nyiddle]

We need to worry more about regulations due to dependence on cig tax dollars than the über rare "exploding" mod.

Au contraire, I think before anything else, a fatal/harmful incident will induce legislation.

You speak like it's implied that all mech mods fire if you touch the atty to the metal of the device. I have never owned a single mech mod that did this. If it did, I'd not use it unless I could fix it. Plain and simple. I'm not going to go out of my way to avoid a design flaw because a device looks nice, or because it carries a "lower voltage drop". Bottom line: "....'s broken."

And you make the point yourself, mech mods don't come with a user manual (obviously), but most mech mods don't need to carry a warning that "device may auto-fire." That's why I made this post.

 

[Hitcat44]

Long Time Owner & User of Mechs. A Loyal and Avid Mech Warrior. I Love Mechs. I own and have owned Many.
This hasn't got anything to do with Mechs or Mech Ignorance.
It is solely about Honesty, Safety, Common-Sense, Prudence, and Facts.
This thing IS a Turd.
As Nyiddle said, Vapers and the Vaping World do not need any Turds stinking up the Place.
We have far too many Safe, Reliable, and Proven Winners at our disposal to mess with, defend, or blindly excuse a Loser.

I do understand that it is difficult for Owner's of these "Bombers" to accept and admit the Fact that they unfortunately own and are handling a Turd. I get it.
Doesn't change the Facts and Sorry 'bout Ya Luck.

 

[DaveSignal]

I guarantee that when MCV designed this mod, they knew exactly how it would work and exactly how it could possibly be shorted with something metal. Its obvious how the device works. It is not a design flaw. It was intentionally designed this way.

 

[DaveSignal]

Au contraire, I think before anything else, a fatal/harmful incident will induce legislation.

You speak like it's implied that all mech mods fire if you touch the atty to the metal of the device.
And you make the point yourself, mech mods don't come with a user manual (obviously), but most mech mods don't need to carry a warning that "device may auto-fire." That's why I made this post.

Most mech mods will self-fire if there is a small tear in the battery wrapper. There is no warning for this either. But people who buy this kind of device should know.

 

[nyiddle]

I guarantee that when MCV designed this mod, they knew exactly how it would work and exactly how it could possibly be shorted with something metal. Its obvious how the device works. It is not a design flaw. It was intentionally designed this way.

In that case maybe I should change my post: "SWEET NEW FEATURE ON CHERRY BOMBER MOD -- TIRED OF PUSHING YOUR BUTTON? NO PROBLEM."

Most people will not see this as a feature.

 

[DaveSignal]

I do understand that it is difficult for Owner's of these "Bombers" to accept and admit the Fact that they unfortunately own and are handling a Turd. I get it.
Doesn't change the Facts and Sorry 'bout Ya Luck.

lol. the way to short a cherry bomber has been known since the device first came out months ago. Most interested and experienced vapers still bought the mod... because its awesome. The way it works is an aspect of the design. They designed it that way to hit really ....ing hard. The trade-off is that n00b vapers who don't know how to use such kind of mod might think that mech mods are something that are good for throwing around and scratching with keys.... and when they take a piece of metal and bridge it across the atty base to the mod, the atty will vaporize some e-juice. Its a trade-off that MCV was willing to take... they aren't marketing this mod to those n00bs anyway.

 

[DaveSignal]

In that case maybe I should change my post: "SWEET NEW FEATURE ON CHERRY BOMBER MOD -- TIRED OF PUSHING YOUR BUTTON? NO PROBLEM."

Most people will not see this as a feature.

The feature is that the thing hits like a beast. Its an acceptable trade-off for a cloud-chasing enthusiast. Its kind of like have a supercar that weighs less than any other car ever made. The thing will kill you if you try to crash it, but the trade-off is that its also way faster than the other cars. So don't try to crash it.