Puresmoker pen. First ecig thoughts.

[oarias]

Again, kinda long... but it chronicles my first e-cig experience.

Well, just met the mailman here about an hour ago, and he delivered the pen style I ordered from PURESMOKER. I really didn't expect this to show up until Monday, so I was pleasantly surprised.

Came in a brown box, honestly nothing I haven't seen on any of the unboxing videos from RatInDaHat and elsewhere. But it is a nice box.

I ordered a set of "Marlboro - High" cartridges, looks like he gave me another free set as well. Nice.

I opened up one of the carts. It sort of had this strange "peanut butter" smell going on with it. Not sure I like this. The cartridge looked full, I touched the exposed end, and sure enough i got this "peanut butter" stink on my finger now.

So I slapped it together as seen on videos, seems to work fine. Battery appears to be fully charged as has been noted by others.

I can see the device is well made, however I'm not really taken in by the "Look" of it. The "cigarette holder" piece makes it looks too....erm... well... "Hollywood Homo" for my taste. If I do end up using these type of devices, this will be the stay home model for sure. I kinda knew this going in, so I am glad I have a DSE901 on the way also (different vendor).

Ok, took a little puff... nothing
Took another slightly longer puff.. light came on and a few wisps of vapor.
Took another medium sized puff. Ok, now we are getting somewhere

(I still have not inhaled at this point.)

Took a decent sized hit on the pen and inhaled it like a cigarette.

I literally spent the next 10 minutes coughing...

Which is really strange for me. I smoke around 2 packs a day of Full-Flavor Camel filters (for the last 20 years). I'll think nothing of grabbing a pack of mini-cigars (Like Swisher Sweets, etc) and smoke them like they were cigarettes. Heck, I even used to chain smoke clove cigarettes years ago!

I just assumed that I didn't even have lungs left. I thought it was all just scar tissue these days!

So I wonder what the problem is

It almost feels like my lungs are expecting the smoke to go in a certain way, and the e-cig refuses to hit the same spot a regular cigarette does.

So I've been playing with it for the last hour, and while I've been typing this forum post.

After the initial coughing fit, I have since tried to inhale again, and have not had the coughing come back (at least not that much). I've been smoking it more like a cigar (or rather how normal people smoke cigars), and not inhaling that much.

But I am inhaling more and more. After a little practice, I am able to produce those billows of vapor I've been seeing on the videos.

I am also not thrilled with the overall taste of it. It tastes NOTHING like a real cigarette, not that this is a bad thing, but Marlboro's these ain't.

I can see that if I seriously want to use these, I'll need to get better flavors of cartridge or liquid. Like some STRONG fruit flavors.

The vapor DOES have a little odor to it. I'm not sure how to describe it, slightly sweet I guess. Does NOT smell like Peanut butter, which is good. I suspect that unlike regular cigs, the odor will dissipate quickly.

So the pen works as it should, no complaints. Puresmoker has excellent fast service and I would not hesitate to order from them again.

 

[apachedug]

EVERYTHING you say here sounds like a first time e-smoker, no surprises.

When I started out, I didn't want the penstyle--I too thought it looked, well, gay. I was ALL SET to get the super-minis until I found this site and discovered they had a lot of problems, and didn't last very long.

(You'll get used to that penstyle fast enough, but at least now they have those DSE901s too that are more 'discreet'.)

I coughed a lot on the vapor too--I was convinced that I was one of those rarities that couldn't handle the propylene glycol. (It just takes a couple days of e-puffing for your throat to get used to it.) Now I puff on these blasted things all day, medium carts, not a single problem.

And if you puff on these alone for a few days...you'll be positively surprised at how fast you acclimate to this type of 'smoke' and how heavy & dirty real cigs are. (I was a 30 a day smoker for 29 years, and I wasn't even PLANNING to quit!) It just happened so easy.

Give yourself a week and you'll be surprised how much you honestly enjoy it!

 

[leaford]

Congratulations, Oarias, you're an e-smoker!!

 

[Dremel70]

Now you will slowly become a digicig geek like the rest of us. I'm still a new geek too. My wife says I have now made smoking my hobby but she is still happier because the house and car doesn't stink anymore.

 

[cyberdude]

Now you will slowly become a digicig geek like the rest of us. I'm still a new geek too. My wife says I have now made smoking my hobby but she is still happier because the house and car doesn't stink anymore.

I am a geek anyway, and when I saw this product after a guy at work showed me the Gamucci electronic cigarette website, I was hooked on finding out about it. It took me a whole weekend and a pack of real rolling baccy to research the best supplier at a reasonable price, with the product that suited myself and her indoors.

I got a white super cigarette for me and a pink mini-e-cig for her from pillbox38 on ebay. What an excellent ebayer, we have ordered loads of stuff from Jason and he delivers very quickly with no hassles. The products work a treat and we have not smoked for 2 days now on high nicotine cartridges that we ordered 50 of each for the two different models.

I'm impressed considering I would normally get through 25grams of cutters choice in 2 or 3 days max. I always smoked with filter tips and thin rizla, but still knew it was doing me damage, and since switching over to e-cigs I have not thought about needing a real cigarette. I have wanted to give up before and couldn't through will power, patches, gum, inhalers and books. I even saw a smoking cesation expert but he did little to help me at the time.

Thank you Jason from The Electronic Cigarette Company UK for saving my lungs and giving me something I can smoke on the train to London. I even smoked on the train platform this morning with no problems, and took it to the office where it was discovered a hit by my colleagues. I ordered a black mini e-cig with blue led from Jason tonight so I have a choice of e-cigs, and 2 e-liquids of cherry and vanilla and was thinking about mixing the two to produce a flavour like the cherry and vanilla rolling tobacco I used to buy a lot of.

I got the car charger and USB charger for both models as well as the cases to hold them in while travelling around. I even ordered spare atomizers for all of them and will enjoy having a smoke anywhere.

My wife has shown her pink mini-cig it to several of her friends who say they will be buying one as they tried it being normal smokers and thought it was a great idea to reduce or stop smoking.

I recommend this to anyone who smokes as a replacement to tobacco. I even watched a tip on super cigarettes on YouTube that showed a man sealing up one of the two holes of the super cigarette to produce more vapour, which it does as I have tried it, works well.

The super cig I have feels confrontational, so buying the black mini e-cig with blue led will mean I can use it in public without being hassled or questioned about using it. I guess people will still ask as they may not have seen a product like this, as the technology is only a few years old if that.

I want to make a mental check list of the places that would frown at smoking, and smoke it there. How about this list:

Police Station
Cinema
Doctors waiting room
Taxi
Dentists waiting room
Buses
London Underground
A Pharmacy
A Hospital
Funeral
Christening or Wedding in Church
Supermarket

Who can think of some other places to smoke an e-cig for fun?!

Long live the e-smoker

Cyberdude

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Cyberdude !!!

MAJOR MAJOR PROPS on your first post! You're gonna be a HUGE ASSET to the ECF Community! Welcome aboard and happy to see everything is working out for you!

 

[cyberdude]

Cyberdude !!!

MAJOR MAJOR PROPS on your first post! You're gonna be a HUGE ASSET to the ECF Community! Welcome aboard and happy to see everything is working out for you!

Thanks CaSHMeRe - This is a great forum, loads of info about the whole experience. I knew nothing about this 2 weeks ago and searched in Google for more information. I stumbled upon this site in the search results quite a few times, so thought it would be good to join and share my experiences and thoughts with you all. I would say that this is the only dedicated forum about the topic that is worth joining so well done for creating such a great discussion site.

I've ordered about £250 (thats $500) 8-o of stuff from pillbox38 on Ebay now in total this week, and await the black mini-cig with blue LED, hopefully tomorrow as he processes it all very quickly and I ordered it last night quite late in the evening. Can't wait to try out the e-liquid too and see if it tastes better than regular tobacco. I guess I will find out on Friday! Glad the wife is at home to sign for registered post...We have not smoked a normal ... for 2 days now.

I see some people mention the cost of e-smoking to be high, but in comparison to regular tobacco smoking, it's cheap as chips. I know that I'm saving money as well as my health. Once you have the basic kits, it's just spare parts and carts, or liquid if you prefer DIY.

I also like the fact I can use it in pubs, like I did yesterday lunchtime with a pint of lager. I really feel ok using it with alcohol which really suprised me.

My mum will be chuffed as she has wanted me to give up ever since I started aged 17, and I'm now 32 so you can imagine how much persuasion has already been tried by her to make me quit. I also got nagged at for smoking by my sister.

Even my cat doesn't like me smoking tobacco! lol. But she does rub her head around the e-cig when it's in my hand which I found incredible that she actually knew the difference.

Will keep reading this forum, and if I can help anyone with my experiences I will let you know by replying to a thread. I'm sure I will have some questions too somewhere down the line.

Hats off to you, and hip hip horray for this groovy forum. Quality.

 

[Bastage]

Dude, sounds like you went all out! I'm probably going to turn into a junky soon...

 

[cyberdude]

Dude, sounds like you went all out! I'm probably going to turn into a junky soon...

Yeah, it's like turned my addiction to real cigarettes into a pure nicotine addiction vapourised straight into my lungs. What exactly are the dangers of inhaling nicotine in this way, does anyone know what it possibly could do to a human? As it's only been out for a short time, I guess it has not had long term effects taken into account.

Although we may be fine now, what could it do to us 10 years down the line. Does it still age the skin like normal smoking would definatly do? I am excited by the medical aspect of the experience too. It would be great to know for sure that it's no harm.

At the end of the day, I say it can't be much worse than delivering nicotine with a real ... containing over 4000 chemicals including carbon dioxide, tar and 70 confirmed carconogenic toxins 8-o. At least it's just the nicotine and vegetable components that we breathe through these devices.

If they are marketable as an NHS quit smoking device, I guess many people could be much healthier but as mentioned on a different thread, there would be too many doctors and not enough patients. Although I'm sure NHS managers wouldn't really want any more people going though the NHS, it's damned busy as it is with normal life problems to fix in a medical sense. I think they should offer it if their clinical trials turn out to be good. I am presuming they will test it...

I saw a lung ward at a general hospital. I was a patient there when I was about 20. Had phemonia and a lung had collapsed and full of fluid, the other was a third full. I had to have oxygen to breathe properly. I was getting cured from a strong dose of anti-biotics but it took 3 attempts to find the right pill.

I was still nowhere near as bad as some of the patients that were dying of lung cancer. That disease really sucks, especially when the patient sucked on a ton of real smokes. They were in a lot of pain, and ther brething was shot. They had to wait until the slowly dying OAP drew his last breathe from a knackered respitory system. Their air apparatous had just given up due to cancer eating away at their insides. Not the way for anyone to go I would say, especially in front of the family they built up over the years watching them croak it.

8-o

As for a more positive note, I smoked my e-cig in the London Underground Friday Night just gone, and used it waiting for a tube and on the tube itself, full of passengers. To top it all off I smoked my e-cig in Waterloo station, a well busy gateway of London and then back on the train to home. Train platforms are not a problem for me either at the moment, and 3 pubs so far let me smoke it there.

I have been told not to smoke it in the office . I work as IT on a customer site and it would tarnish the image of our company if I were to use it there I guess some offices would allow you to use them though. If you are lucky enough to have your own office, then nobody can stop you. It will not smell at all or leave any trace

Have a nice e-smoke people, my Mini Black DSE901 with blue LED arrived from pillbox and I laced it with 5 drops of 11mg medium cherry. Nice and mellow, I just love the sweet taste of the vapour.

Best Wishes

 

[Bastage]

Well I know one thing, it can't be as harmful as lighting up tobacco and inhaling it. It may not be perfectly 100% safe, but you gotta know it's way better for you than smoking..

 

[cyberdude]

Well I know one thing, it can't be as harmful as lighting up tobacco and inhaling it. It may not be perfectly 100% safe, but you gotta know it's way better for you than smoking..

Yes, there have been doctors that have stated it is definately better for you thank smoking. It is been seen by some as a device to replace smoking, continuing with e-cigs for the forseeable future. To others it has been seen as a Nicotine Replacement Therapy that you can ween yourself off gradually to abstain from smoking altogether. What the NHS publicly say about it will be interesting on the record.

The text from an article from the evening standard about a doctor mentioning e-cigarettes is quoted by me here between the flames:


HOW THE E-CIG WORKS
The e-cig is claimed to deliver a dose of nicotine equivalent to a strong nicotine patch. However, the device has been criticised in China for containing 18mg of nicotine compared with 1.2mg for a typical cigarette. The makers claim the comparison is unfair because it would take much longer to get through one filter than a cigarette.
Evening Standard columnist and GP Dr Mark Porter said: "If you use them correctly you're not getting any more nicotine than you would do from a normal cigarette, but you are not getting any of the other nasty chemicals."Because this device lights up like a cigarette, looks like one, handles like one and even tastes a bit like one, it can only perpetuate that habit, making it more difficult for smokers to take the final step in the process and wean themselves off nicotine altogether. I would not recommend it as a way of quitting."




There have been many toxidity reports and pillbox did one of them in Sept 2008, which can be seen on his website theelectroniccigarette.co.uk as a downloadable PDF file from a third party scientific evaluator. I had a good read of that document and the safety of pillbox38 ingredients for the carts was considered safe. I am not sure what reports have been done on the flavoured e-liquid.

I can't wait until I am a full member and not a junior one so that I can post some links to research articles on the safety and legality of e-cigs. I have read some interesting news on the subject and would like to share it all with you. It looks like I need to write 15 articles in this forum before I become a full member and can publish some links to general e-cig headlines that have interested me. I also watched a lot of YouTube videos on their use and reviews for different types. I can link to some research I have been conducting into the subject.

I want to envoke some big discussions about the subject which I already can do so I am very happy with this place and my membership, but to show some great resources to the subject would be handy for everyone. I value many peoples opinions here are you have given me some great suppliers, models of e-cig and advice on maintenance, law, use and DIY mods to use. It would be great to start a new thread too if I get elevated...

Can anyone verify for me a place in the world that you smoked an e-cigarette and were told to stop? Does anyone have any interesting stories about this? So far I have not been challenged, although if I smoked one at a petrol/gas station they would probably throw a wobbler (especially my super cigarette as it looks like the real thing).

Has anyone tried it in an airport or on a plane? And what doe customs think of the product? Thanks for the post Kate, you mentioned it could be a big problem in New Zeland for carts and liquids and banned from Singapore which is intersting news. Is there anywhere in the UK that you know the product is banned from use? Swimming pools?! lol

Would be good to get some opinions on these questions, just some of the many things I ask myself when I inhale an e-cig. What questions have you all that you want an answer to?

If you want to visit my site:
cyberdude.co.uk (dont forget the three w's and the dot first!)

 

[Kate]

Hi Cyberdude, welcome to the forum.

It's not illegal in the UK to use esmoking devices BUT that doesn't mean they are allowed everywhere. Publicans sometimes don't allow them on their premises because it can confuse smokers. Some people have used them on trains, planes and automobiles

You'll be a full member soon and will be able to share your research with us, I look forward to that.

 

[cyberdude]

Hi Cyberdude, welcome to the forum.

It's not illegal in the UK to use esmoking devices BUT that doesn't mean they are allowed everywhere. Publicans sometimes don't allow them on their premises because it can confuse smokers. Some people have used them on trains, planes and automobiles

You'll be a full member soon and will be able to share your research with us, I look forward to that.

Thanks Kate, you people really know what you are talking about when it comes to this stuff. I will be merely extracting other peoples publications on the subject that I think we should know about. I hope that I can be of use to you all, as you have helped me.

My company car is non smoking, but I think it would be down to the discretion of the hire car company and my company to tell me if I could smoke an e-cig or not while driving. At the moment legislation does not say that it's illegal to smoke while driving, although they have tried to pass that one and it may eventually be treated like mobile phone use, in some way distracting the driver from the view of the road.

Yes, I think as for the confusion aspect, that bar staff and restaurants need to be educated that there is no risk of fire, 2nd hand smoke or odour that would stink the place out!

My new blue LED black mini DSE901 is great for that and I'm running one on cherry and the other on vanilla as I bought an extra atomizer for the 2nd battery to have 2 different flavours on the go at once. I also did the same for my super so I have 4 different e-cigs to choose from now, each could have a different flavour or strength

Have a good e-smoke Kate, I am enjoying being a non-smoker now!

G. x

P.S. I really like your avatar photo Kate, that's very cool. lol.

 

[Kate]

There are a lot of very knowledgeable people on this forum, plenty of quality information and opinions. We also have a share of know it alls and self declared experts so be sure to use your discretion when deciding what to take seriously.

It's a good idea to have different atomisers for different flavours and strengths, I sometimes do that too. I also like mixing flavours and having some different ones going on in my atomiser at the same time.

I saw my nurse at my doctor's surgery last week and told her that I had stopped smoking. She put 'non-smoker' on my notes and I said to her that I thought non-smokers were those who had never smoked and that I was an ex-smoker. She told me that they class people who have just stopped as non-smokers and after a certain time period we become ex-smokers. So we are non-smokers I wonder what they call people who have never smoked

Anyway, all the best, I'm glad you like my avatar, yours is pretty good too.

 

[cyberdude]

Nice one Kate. I think they state in the UK that you are an ex-smoker after 12 months without a real cigarette. Since the NHS refuse some surgery to smokers, this can only be good if you can't afford private medical treatment.

It's good to know that it improves your health too compared to normal smoking, as I believe I can smell and taste more since stopping real cigs 4 days ago. Ashtrays really smell bad to me now, we have friends who are smokers and do not ban them from our house because we don't want to be hypocrits having previously smoked all those years to impose a ban from others doing so at our home. It didn't make me want one either, I'm quite satisfied with an e-cig for now. I won't be moaning about others smoking though, I vowed I would never do that after doing it myself for 15 years!

I'm not sure how my mother is going to react to my new hobby. I think my father is skeptical purely because he does not understand the technology yet, so I have sent him a few links in his email so that he can be better informed. Crikey, I did not know anything about the possibility of e-smoking until 2 weeks ago at work, when a colleague showed me the Gamucci website. I think they will appreciate the fact that it does not leave an odour, and is better for you than carcongens, but at the same time would prefer me not to use anything eventually. I have not made myself or anyone else any promises on this, I'm just taking it a day at a time and evaluating it for myself the first time. I must say I am impressed with the wealth of knowledge this forum has to offer.

There will always be know it alls in every walk of life, but I can seperate opinion from medical fact. If they can prove it's good for health as you stated in another post, I would feel assured that I am doing the right thing. The truth is that I feel less guilty doing this than smoking something I know could kill me and damage my health.

Thanks for your reply, and good luck in your quest for that which is true. I see from many other posts you have written Kate that you have many good angles and points to make about the subject, in which I am a newbie. I will keep an open mind as I always should, but everyone tends to make their own judgements through what they believe to be the right medical evidence, and disregard people that make a statement that is not backed up by truth due to known evidences.

Will have to make a few photos of me smoking my new black mini, it's great and better to smoke than the super. More vapour from the black mini DSE901 and I'm using 2 drops of high vanilla with 2 drops of medium cherry in it at the moment. Cookin

G. x