Would a copyright or patent stop you from making their ejuice? It may stop you from selling it but making it for personal use... I highly doubt it. You making it for yourself stops you from buying it for yourself therefore hurting their business.
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Thank You for posting that vid link kaahn it was a great 1 and I wish everyone would watch it. I have tried to quit smoking for years and years and now with vaping I almost have it licked. Next month I hope to only buy a pack of cigs instead of the 2 I bought this month.
I know it is not the nic I miss with smoking because I do 16-18mg nic in my vaping, so it must be all the other chemicals in the tobacco. The great news is I do not get any true cravings or withdrawal symptoms anymore. I believe that vaping has helped me a lot. 
Once again I say if you want to vape and know everything that you are vaping - vape unflavored nic base, otherwise you never will.
I know it is not the nic I miss with smoking because I do 16-18mg nic in my vaping, so it must be all the other chemicals in the tobacco. The great news is I do not get any true cravings or withdrawal symptoms anymore. I believe that vaping has helped me a lot. Once again I say if you want to vape and know everything that you are vaping - vape unflavored nic base, otherwise you never will.I absolutely agree that companies should be forced to disclose exactly what artificial and natural flavorings they are using, damn the recipe. Companies should be looking out for their customers best interest, if their not, its just going to make me want to clone their juice more to figure out what horribly bad for you artificial flavorings they use. And if you don't know that most if not all artificial flavorings are bad for you, then you're off your rocker. Just because the FDA deems something safe to ingest or vape, does not mean that it is, or the surgeon general for that matter.
Any company who's label says may contain diacetyl or other analogues automatically loses my business.
I would have to disagree and say that our food industry and our FDA should have imposed harsher sanctions on the food industry as well, making them label their most dangerous ingredients in bright letters. FDA is under the control of big business just like our government, part of the overall crazy plan isn't to make us live longer, because that would just mean the sharper decension of the human race into violence and destruction due to lack of resources and our overall mistreatment of the planet. or maybe i missed something.
Better start researching diy then because when the regulation hammer hits this is what all eliquid companies will do to cover their assets from frivolous lawsuits whether they contain it or not.
If "big business" was in control of " big govt" our economy would be on cruise control instead of hitting on one cylinder. Regulation stiffles economic growth and innovation not to mention individual freedoms. So what you are saying is big business is involved in population control, if I read that correctly, because we are going to use up all our resources and destroy the planet while we are at it? Well maybe if the next best, latest greatest, idea wasn't so stiffle by those regulations we could come up with a way to use our resources more wisely and save the planet. The only problem is that idea hasn't happened yet and with regulating our current resources we have at our disposal its killing our monetary resources to invest in such technology. Innovation takes money. I say use the resources we have on hand to make the money to invest in innovation for the future...instead of borrowing from China, saddling our children with insurmountable debt, and sending us down a path of economic genocide...which also slows the oppurtunity to come up with the idea that will "save the planet". That is just my opinion.
i don't worry so much about recipe confidentiality.
i have suspected for a long time their secret ingredients is the amount of water
added to the mix.
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mike
i have always wondered where this we don't know the
long term effects of inhaling flavors will be.
OSHA seems to have a pretty good grip on
the problem.
Safety and Health Information Bulletins | Occupational Exposure to Flavoring Substances: Health Effects and Hazard Control
scroll down to the bottom to table 2.
regards
mike
long term effects of inhaling flavors will be.
OSHA seems to have a pretty good grip on
the problem.
Safety and Health Information Bulletins | Occupational Exposure to Flavoring Substances: Health Effects and Hazard Control
scroll down to the bottom to table 2.
regards
mike
You're already saying what I'm well aware, oh we're ....ed now. I think the way we as humanity evolved led us down the wrong path. We should have kept food private, civilization smaller.
But i think you're being a bit over reactive here, I think the FDA knows full well that inhaling diacetyl vapors causes lung transplants, OSHA insisted on popcorn factory workers wearing respirators. I think the fda will ban diacetyl and diacetyl analogues. Who am I kidding, smoking is still legal, if they cared about US they'd have banned that .... long ago... like {Moderated}.
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I also feel like you still believe in trickle down effect. It's a scam. Those resources politicians talk about saving, by dealing less regulations is a farce, the CEO's are lining their pockets and they push back against things like this, we just need someone (new "new" world order) to stand up for the world, not just the United States, and push these bullies back, rather then letting us slip into a listless anything goes state. We educate ourselves, that's why we've come out of smoking cigarettes, if you don't care about the artificial sweeteners and dyes in your drinks and food that are proven to cause cancer, you might as well go back to death sticks. Basically I think the WHO should tighten down the screws, or at least give it their best effort. My question to you now is, why doesn't government on the whole take care of the safety of their peoples like they say they do. Maybe because it's not actually in the best interest of the world to insure everyones health and safety. With deep thought like this you wonder why Presidents can't keep all the promises they intend to when they are running for office, because there is a lot of information such as this that people shun on a daily basis. This is of course getting away from the FDA and controlling additives and what not. It's just not in their overall best interest, they just want to get in on the action, get a slice.
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If nothing else, that anti-vaping representative that is going to stand up holding a bottle of juice with a cartoon character in their hand is going to have something to put in the other hand.
It's hard to imagine that there are actually people who never eat out and are knowledgeable about every single ingredient listed on each and every grocery item.....and actually read every single one. Just be sure to read that label every time you buy the same product in case something got added.
It's hard to imagine that there are actually people who never eat out and are knowledgeable about every single ingredient listed on each and every grocery item.....and actually read every single one. Just be sure to read that label every time you buy the same product in case something got added.
I agree that on an individual to individual basis we can only pay so much attention, that's why we should have better regulation, isn't that the major point of the FDA regulating labels at all.
I don't need anyone to tell me what's bad for me especially a "someone(new " new" order) to stand up for me". What I do need is the govt. to get their hands out of my pockets and leave me the hell alone. I can fend for myself and a little less intrusion from the powers at be is what would help me the most. Hell I can't even wipe my .... without someone fussing about what my toilet paper might be made out of and wanting to pass some new regulation. Someone supposedly concerned about me and my health that I have never met..yeah right. With every new regulation comes more government expansion which opens the door for politicians to dig deeper in my pocket. Government is a business too so lets take from private business and private citizens and give it to the CEO's of the United States Government all in the name of public safety. Hogwash!
I was born to die. I Vape. I used to smoke. Both are not healthy for me but I have chose the lesser of the two evils. Regardless of what additives are in my juice at the end of the day it's still unhealthy for me yet i still do it because i enjoy it. I mean come on you are inhaling chemicals. Why fuss about knowing what additional additives are in your juice when you know it's still unhealthy for you. Sounds like if you are so concerned about your health you shouldn't be vaping either. I would focus more on quiting it all together if it is that much of a concern to you.
Just my, possibly over simplified view, but once the FDA 'Deems' vaping as tobacco. Flavoring won't be an issue except for tobacco and menthol from the BT cig-a-like monopoly. And we all know BT is not gonna hurt anyone. They've been a 'Trusted' supplier of tobacco products for years.
Once the vaping inquisition has completed it's elimination of all of BT's competition then the clouds will part, the sun will shine, and the FDA, CDC, ALA, ACS, WHO, ...... will finally slither back into their holes and wait for their Tax Checks.
Just me, I could be wrong.
Once the vaping inquisition has completed it's elimination of all of BT's competition then the clouds will part, the sun will shine, and the FDA, CDC, ALA, ACS, WHO, ...... will finally slither back into their holes and wait for their Tax Checks.
Just me, I could be wrong.
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