Queer or just strange? WLTM ...

[taukimada]

Kate...

i've noticed that comment thrown around alot too LOL

but i really do seem to have (at least by others standards) some remarkably effemenite qualities... i'm not sure i spelled that correctly but im too lazy to google the proper speeling hehehe

and honestly... i truly love lesbians AS FRIENDS...

there is absolutely nothing cooler in the world than sitting at the bar with an attractive woman... turning and noticing another attractive woman walking in the door.. having that drunken outside voice make comment on anatomy.. and the girl your sitting with openly admits full agreement.

i've actually learned a few important life lessons from some of the gay friends i've had through the years that i've always felt some of my hetero friends could use if they'd simply open thier thick skulls enough to learn them

 

[Kate]

We have more in common than a lot of people realise:

"The brains of gay men and women look like those found in heterosexual people of the opposite sex, research suggests.

The Swedish study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences journal, compared the size of the brain's halves in 90 adults.

Gay men and heterosexual women had halves of a similar size, while the right side was bigger in lesbian women and heterosexual men.

A UK scientist said this was evidence sexual orientation was set in the womb... "
BBC NEWS | Health | Scans see 'gay brain differences'

 

[Nayetopps]

This is what makes ECF, ECF ... We are all brother and sisters at heart. Don't matter if you are black, blue, green, white, or yellow ... whether you are gay, straight, strange, tall, fat, pudgy, or pear shaped ....

we all have one common goal/achievement/love .... Esmoking

Although I may not share your lifestyle, I am happy to call you guys by brothers and sisters in ESmokin .....

I COMPLETELY agree!

I personally am not gay, however i see nothing wrong with it. What I DO see wrong is other people being judgemental and predjudice against those that do have a different lifestyle than them.

We're all human! Color, shape, lifestyle, etc shouldn't matter!

 

[nicowolf]

Around here, I have found that the lesbians are a very insular, secretive bunch. They travel in cliques that tend to be a bit incestuous with everyone having had a relationship with pretty much every one else in the group. They do not discuss sex - it is almost taboo around them.

My wife and I are the strange lesbian ... hags that do not associate with the other lesbians much and don't want to associate with them. We are definitely VERY vanilla compared to our gay male friends. Compared to my rather colorful past as a babydyke, we are definitely not vanilla. Compared to my straight brothers, we are somewhere in the middle - one of the two I speak openly with is into some wild stuff and the other is not kinky at all, just horny. I do tend to gravitate more towards the kinky straight people for friends though, they seem to be more openminded and accepting of who I am.

I think lesbians just seem vanilla because they are afraid to discuss sex openly - not sure why, just my observations. I know I personally am a whole lot less open with straight men around, because I don't want to be the subject of their incessant lesbian fantasies. I will answer any direct question from my gay friends honestly and openly, though.

 

[Nayetopps]

PS.. I have absolutely ZERO "gaydar"... unless you're really SUPER FLAMING gay .... so i would have never even known or had the thought cross my mind if it weren't for this thread!

 

[nicowolf]

I have come out in a few threads, you might run into them.

My avatar wouldn't have given you a clue?

 

[Kate]

Ha, what about my avatar?

I tend to think of all nuns as being part of the 'sisterhood'

 

[nicowolf]

Ha, what about my avatar?

I tend to think of all nuns as being part of the 'sisterhood'

Ha, that never occurred to me, Kate. I have a hard time seeing nuns as sexual beings - I think it's that whole vow of chastity thing, it puts them in the hands off category along with the straight women.

 

[Sadie]

In more religious circles (historically speaking, anyways), lesbian sex wasn't considered to be "REAL" sex.. so that vow of chastity has a loophole.

 

[Kate]

You'd be surprised Nico, nuns need love too, it's not about sex it's about lifestyle and inclinations. I know a couple of nuns who were thrown out for being gay and when you think about it who would join a group of same sex people all married to one person of the opposite sex (Jesus) who's never there. It's like living in a harem without the man ... yummy!

 

[Sadie]

I like the way you think, Kate.. wonder if it's not too late to find religion and become a nun! XD

 

[Sadie]

wow...
sadly i must admit i do use the "that's so gay" phrase but never as derogatory toward anyone or lifestyle...

Totally not an attack, since anyone who's a straight ally (or a male-bodied lesbian ) is totally awesome.. I just want to explain why it bugs me.

I don't believe that "That's so gay" can be used in a non-derogatory sense. It's used to say that something is stupid, silly, bad, negative.. replacing the negative word with "Gay". A similar comparison would be if everyone said "That's so African-American" or "That's so Female/Male". While it isn't being said to deliberately lower the value of the word, it does all the same.

Not that it's an easy habit to get out of.. or even one that needs to be worried about by most people. Language changes.. the word "Dumb" used to refer to someone who can't speak.. now it's a generic negative word.. a "That's So _____!" It just winds me up because it implies that somehow what I am is less than good.

For illustration's sake, and because everyone should hear this poem..

The Fugitives' "This Poem is So Gay (ie. Awesome)" read by John d'Arc (my drag-king alter-ego) and Cheri Pinktrix (my totally awesome partner. ^.^)
YouTube - Halloween Early Show 2008 - John d'Arc and Cheri Pinktrix

 

[taukimada]

/insert humor here

i liked the video Sadie... and it inspired me to try to come up with a different wording... sadly on websters the best description from the definition i found and still mean the same not only turned out to be MORE derogatory... but rather uncomfortable to say...

so i will make an attempt (prolly wont work) to start using "that's so licentious" instead... altho it truly doesn't quite roll off the tounge like "gay" does

/end humor

my personal opinion of the wording is that we have become recently "over-sensitized" to certain words and thier meanings. it is WE who give these words their power. honestly i use alot of non-PC words in my random vocabulary that quite honestly i use to put a concept into a general and stereotypical format that although derogatory in nature... is not meant as such. in most cases i am purposely preying on the derogatory stereotype to purposely not include anyone that does not fit the stereotype (wow i hope that made sense)

the word gay can unfortunately be a rather broad stroke as it means different things to different people. there is nothing wrong with being gay.. or being proud to be gay.. but the word has multiple meanings dependent on the listener. and thus the conundrum (speeling may be incorrect)

there so far has only been one derogatory word that i use lightly because the only way i know of to use it is in a more personal and derogatory meaning... and that is "hater" thankfully for me... there are no readily available jokes using the word hater as it is definately descriptive only, and, i wouldn't give haters the priveledge of finding any humor in them other than their idiotic "holier-than-thou" notions being humorous to bash

i think i've rambled enuff for now

much love to all

 

[Sadie]

I know what you mean, Taukimada.. "That's so licentious!" doesn't have the same ring to it..

And I agree with you completely regarding people becoming over-sensitive to words and giving them unnecessary power. But I don't think that this is one of those cases.. it doesn't matter what power the word has here. "Gay" as a word is a label used to describe homosexual people. So to say that something negative is gay assigns meaning to it, inferring that negative=gay, and thereby, gay=negative. It's like calling a guy a "Sissy", or telling him that he "throws like a girl".. it implies that femininity is a negative thing that should be avoided at all costs.

Loveya, and this is totally an academic debate on my part.. not trying to be offensive at all.

 

[Kate]

The word that I hate to hear most in slang is '......ed'.

 

[taukimada]

this is totally an academic debate on my part.. not trying to be offensive at all.

hehe.. i assumed from the getgo that it was academic and would have chosen to not take offense even if i had ever felt any.. believe me.. if i'd thought we were going to actually argue i probably would not chimed in.. it's not a subject i'm normally comfortable rambling on about in argumentative form only because it's too easy to accidently offend even one's own allies. i'm reminded of an old mafia joke... "what do felatio and dealing with the mob have in common?.... one slip of the toungue and you're in deep "doodoo""

so far in my short time on this forum i have honestly been impressed by the fact that for the majority.. we most times see each others as part of our single vaping cause.. not to say i haven't seen a few more personal statements that were derogatory, but they ARE few and far between, and that's the way it should be at all times.

by the way... i'm thinking just for fun i WILL use licentious more often... it could become funny watching people have no clue what i'm talking about... i used to teach the teenagers in the house to use simalar thinking and wording instead of swearing... as in calling someone a "maternal fornicating penile vaccuum" instead of the standard wording which would have brought them nothing but trouble at their ages

ps: i have thouroughly enjoyed corresponding with you so far... and Kate... i don't think i ever did properly thank you for your welcome when i first posted on ECF.. so.. THANK YOU FOR THE WELCOME!!

 

[Kate]

You're welcome for the welcome

There are some great people on this forum and most of us do try to look after each other. We are all on the same boat after all.

 

[MisterPuck]

In more religious circles (historically speaking, anyways), lesbian sex wasn't considered to be "REAL" sex.. so that vow of chastity has a loophole.

I see I'm not the only one who went to catholic school.

 

[Sadie]

*Laughs*

My ex, actually.. and my current partner, now that I think of it. Guess I have a thing for Catholic school-girls.. >.>

 

[Spikey]

*Laughs*

My ex, actually.. and my current partner, now that I think of it. Guess I have a thing for Catholic school-girls.. >.>

Seems lotsa lesbians come from Catholic school.. I think they breed them 3 of my female ex's went to catholic school

hehe.. i assumed from the getgo that it was academic and would have chosen to not take offense even if i had ever felt any.. believe me.. if i'd thought we were going to actually argue i probably would not chimed in.. it's not a subject i'm normally comfortable rambling on about in argumentative form only because it's too easy to accidently offend even one's own allies. i'm reminded of an old mafia joke... "what do felatio and dealing with the mob have in common?.... one slip of the toungue and you're in deep "doodoo""

so far in my short time on this forum i have honestly been impressed by the fact that for the majority.. we most times see each others as part of our single vaping cause.. not to say i haven't seen a few more personal statements that were derogatory, but they ARE few and far between, and that's the way it should be at all times.

by the way... i'm thinking just for fun i WILL use licentious more often... it could become funny watching people have no clue what i'm talking about... i used to teach the teenagers in the house to use simalar thinking and wording instead of swearing... as in calling someone a "maternal fornicating penile vaccuum" instead of the standard wording which would have brought them nothing but trouble at their ages

ps: i have thouroughly enjoyed corresponding with you so far... and Kate... i don't think i ever did properly thank you for your welcome when i first posted on ECF.. so.. THANK YOU FOR THE WELCOME!!

Tauk.. I just want to say that I have been following some of your postings and you are okay in my book. I was unsure about you in the beginning... but I like you. Stick around!

The word that I hate to hear most in slang is '......ed'.

I think I used that in my 1st review... I will go to the "I'm sorry" thread and post an apology. I deserve a time out

You'd be surprised Nico, nuns need love too, it's not about sex it's about lifestyle and inclinations. I know a couple of nuns who were thrown out for being gay and when you think about it who would join a group of same sex people all married to one person of the opposite sex (Jesus) who's never there. It's like living in a harem without the man ... yummy!

Me and my ex were "lesbian nuns" for the NYC Halloween parade once. That was fun We just stopped and made out a lot... sex was really good that night!