I've been dabbling w/ DIY & have realized that all the standard bottles from the top venders that are advertised as 15ml & 30ml bottles are actually more like 17ml & 32ml bottles. My beakers & measuring devices are obviously correct so it can't be that. Is it just simply the standard in the industry to call them 15ml & 30ml when in fact they are bigger than that or am I missing something here??
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I understand you need that little bit but they are still 17 & 32 ml bottles eventhough every single vender advertises them as 15 & 30. I made a batch of 75ml multiple times & each time they fell 1/2 bottle short of five 15ml bottles & 60ml batches fall considerably short of two 30ml bottles & thats leaving plenty room to spare.
Measure the bottles yourself & you'll see. All the bottles the venders are using are not actually 15 & 30. They are bigger. Measure out 60ml of a fluid & then fill UP any venders 30ml bottle twice (with the correct amount of air) & you will see that you'll fall considerably short.
If you were to fill them all the way to the brim they would actually be more like 35 & 19ml
Measure the bottles yourself & you'll see. All the bottles the venders are using are not actually 15 & 30. They are bigger. Measure out 60ml of a fluid & then fill UP any venders 30ml bottle twice (with the correct amount of air) & you will see that you'll fall considerably short.
If you were to fill them all the way to the brim they would actually be more like 35 & 19ml
I made 30ml and put it in an empty 30ml dripper bottle I got from BWB and it was way short of full, probably 5ml short. I am now using a 2 ounce glass bottle for 60ml & it has a lot of room left too.
Thats how the industry is.. In Boston Round bottle, the 15ml goes to where the bottle start to curve at the top. Look at gallons of milk, or look at just about anything sold in a bottle or a jug. It is never filled to the brim, and is not ment to be. So the size standard are based off that fact.
That is why potato chip bags say sold by weight not by volume. Think about most things you buy. When you buy say a gallon of milk or bottles of soda they leave a rather large area at the top of air. The reason this is done and bottles are made for most uses is to allow expansion from either heating or freezing. So the bottles we get our liquid in are made for other things then nicotine. Imagine how ...... off you would be if you forgot that gallon of milk or bleach in the back of your car and you lived up north and it froze and busted in your car. The bottles being bigger do have a pratical purpose.
I think the fact that what we use and "oxidizes" turning color is the greatest thing for the consumer because of this and how we like to complain as consumers the vendors fill to the top to avoid as much air so we win. When you buy a 30 ml bottle from company x and it is filled to top you are actually getting 32 ml or whatever the engineer decided was the safe expansion of that bottle.
Air compresses easier then liquid does. That being said I would be careful leaving that bottle that is completely full to the top sitting in your car in the middle of summer while living in Arizona. You might come back to a bottle that has the leaking liquid all over your dash.
I think the fact that what we use and "oxidizes" turning color is the greatest thing for the consumer because of this and how we like to complain as consumers the vendors fill to the top to avoid as much air so we win. When you buy a 30 ml bottle from company x and it is filled to top you are actually getting 32 ml or whatever the engineer decided was the safe expansion of that bottle.
Air compresses easier then liquid does. That being said I would be careful leaving that bottle that is completely full to the top sitting in your car in the middle of summer while living in Arizona. You might come back to a bottle that has the leaking liquid all over your dash.
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The gap between the Level of the Liquid and the Top of the Bottle is called the "Head Space".
It is designed in to allow for Expansion to do Temperature Change and also so the Filling Process does not have to be Perfect.
I have a 60ml Boston Bottle with an Eye Dropper top that I use sometimes to do "Quick and Dirty" DIY. I put a Piee of Tape running Vertically on it and then marked it with a Sharpie Fine Tip marker at 5ml Intervals. I used a a Graduated Cylinder to make the 5ml lines.
It comes in handy to get an Eyeball guestimation when I just want to do a Flavor Blend of Two or Three Pre-Made DIY Flavors.
It is designed in to allow for Expansion to do Temperature Change and also so the Filling Process does not have to be Perfect.
I have a 60ml Boston Bottle with an Eye Dropper top that I use sometimes to do "Quick and Dirty" DIY. I put a Piee of Tape running Vertically on it and then marked it with a Sharpie Fine Tip marker at 5ml Intervals. I used a a Graduated Cylinder to make the 5ml lines.
It comes in handy to get an Eyeball guestimation when I just want to do a Flavor Blend of Two or Three Pre-Made DIY Flavors.
Yes I concur, don't leave your bottle of e-liquid in your car during an Arizona summer. It will vape all by it's self.
I think you guys are misunderstanding. I am completely aware of the "breathing space"
If you fill a standard 30ml bottle to the brim that is actually 35ml. Most every vendor fills the bottle to where bottle starts to curve, if you were to measure that amount it will actually be 32ml not 30ml. Same w/ the standard 15ml bottles. If you measure the amount that nearly every vender puts in these bottles then it will actually come out to 17ml.
If you were to measure out 75ml of a liquid & fill it to the curve (just how most every vendor does) you will only be able to fill 4.5 bottles instead of 5......
Try for yourself~
Conclusion: When you order a standard 30ml bottle of eliquid from any reputable vendor you are actually getting 32 ml & when you order any 15ml bottle of eliquid from any reputable vendoe you are actually getting 17ml. This is a good thing I guess??
If you fill a standard 30ml bottle to the brim that is actually 35ml. Most every vendor fills the bottle to where bottle starts to curve, if you were to measure that amount it will actually be 32ml not 30ml. Same w/ the standard 15ml bottles. If you measure the amount that nearly every vender puts in these bottles then it will actually come out to 17ml.
If you were to measure out 75ml of a liquid & fill it to the curve (just how most every vendor does) you will only be able to fill 4.5 bottles instead of 5......
Try for yourself~
Conclusion: When you order a standard 30ml bottle of eliquid from any reputable vendor you are actually getting 32 ml & when you order any 15ml bottle of eliquid from any reputable vendoe you are actually getting 17ml. This is a good thing I guess??
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