Question about Chocolate Macadamia Nut juice

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ryanSTi

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So I have been using the Chocolate Macadamia Nut juice for a couple weeks now. I've been vaping for over 2 months now and have used other Nhaler juices, Dekang, and a couple others. With all other juices I can refill a cart a half a dozen times before I wash it out and go another half a dozen times. What I've found with the CMN juice is that it only tastes Great, and has good TH with a brand new empty cart. Once I've use it with the CMN juice whether I wash the cart out or not from then on the flavor is much less and the TH is also much less. It's quite annoying because I have gone through 20+ empty carts for just this juice. I love the flavor and TH with a new cart. I have tried comparing a new cart filled with CMN and a carto used once, washed and refilled and the new one BLOWS the once used one away.

Any ideas as to why? I LOVE the flavor, yet I just can't afford to buy so many new carts...
 

Jacobchaind

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It's really hard to say what the deal is. I have the Chocolalte Macadamia Nut, too. At times it does not have good throat hit, others... it does. You should just stick with dripping the CMN.

What are you using in the carts? the poly-fil? That stuff is junk. You should try the blue foam mod. The BFM acts nearly identical to dripping. (imo dripping gives the best flavor, throat hit, and vapor.)

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I think the CMN may have more VG than other juices. When i'm not getting that nice TH it just starts vaping like a champ. Clouds of vapor.
 

alphafemale

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sorry ryan-I don't have this flavor so I have nothing to offer. I don't plan on getting it because the only nuts I like are almonds and peanuts. Hopefully someone who is using this one will chime in pretty soon.

Have you tried switching up for awhile?. Use something else for a day or two, then come back to the CMN. Also, do you shake your juices before you drip?
 

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I have both versions of CMN HV12 & the 24mg. So far using mostly DSE 905 Nomad and occ Xhaler. I was an ultra light cig smoker... but have really gotten attached to Drew's macchiato......OMG..... so had put aside the CMN for that deep rich yummy..... flavor as I am still struggling a bit w/ analogs & am just now getting serious w/ exclusive vaping thanks to FSC.

I am suprised that the CMN isn't the one that grabbed me.... like the C macchiato did. I was ordering Lion Choc Macadamia nut Coffee from Hawaii for the last few years and nothing else would do.... In fact... wasn't even a coffee drinker til I got a taste of that.... and then other brands wouldn't compare either... so had to get the expen$ive CMN coffee and $pecial pot... (so I do have a definite thing for CMN)

Now IF... this has anything to do w/ it..... and it might..... the beans are way oily.... I use hemp filters rinsed daily...... (even tried those in my carts before blue foam & worked pretty good - much better than stock poly crud)

The only idea I can offer so far is a comparison to my CMN coffee issues.... & how it plugs the hemp filters over time..

I will try to use the CMV vape more often & really pay attn .... but just got so blown away by the richness of the macchiato..... & kinda got stuck there..... First impression was just hmmmm... different..... but each time I went back it got better & better..... & I got hooked.

They do mix well too...... those two. I'll try a fresh set up with each CMN version soon on both vaping devices & see if I can tell where you're comming from. Hadn't really noticed anything yet... but may be because I was stuck on a different one for 2 wks... & occ blend of the 2. The Macchiato does overpower the CMN.
 

ryanSTi

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Jacob, I use the cartomizers on a KR808, so dripping is essentially re-filling. I have used the 901 atty and I just didn't care for it nearly as much as the cartys. I don't know about the VG in the CMN. I just know that when the TH starts dying down, I could start a new cart, and it's the best flavor. I've now gone through over 20 cartys, and how ever much juice ended up wasted in them...

Alpha, I switch back and forth all day. Mostly either CMN or Red Bull, but I have a couple others that I use. And like I said, even if it starts losing TH and flavor, a new cart and it's back to awesome. And yeah, I do shake them up before I use them.

Jas, I wonder about that now. I didn't really think about it until you posted. After I have cleaned a cart with even just 1 use of CMN, it's definitely stained. And yeah, I only used the 24mg. If you could use that and start with a new cart, and don't refill it until you've used maybe half of the juice. Then refill it, and try a new cart filled the same. I'd imagine that you'd see what I'm talking about.
 

ryanSTi

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Alpha, I am using the KR808 cartys.

So, I was waiting for some new carts and liquid to do a test. Over the past 2 days I've been doing some testing. I'll sum up what I've done so far, and maybe some one will see something I am doing wrong...

I started with 3 brand new KR808 cartomizers. I shook and syringe filled each one with 1.05 ml of the Chocolate Macadamia Nut niquid. I kept them organized so I'll just call carty 1, 1.

Yesterday I used a new battery with 1 for a "session". Puffed about 30 times. The whole time the flavor was very good.

I have a bunch of batteries so I used a new battery with 2 a short while later, same thing, about 30 puffs.

Next I tried both 1 & 2 on a fresh battery. Both had decent vapor, somewhat diminished flavor, and no throat hit. So I topped them off. Both 1 & 2 took about 0.3 ml of niquid to be full to the same point between them and to when they were filled.

I then vaped 1 with a fresh battery and wouldn't ya know it, great vapor, good flavor, and the throat hit is back. So about 30 puffs later, I put it down.

On to 2, fresh battery and same results. Great vapor, good flavor, and throat hit again. Another 30 puffs and I'm off to bed.

This morning I try 1 & 2 on a fresh battery. Decent vapor, somewhat ok flavor (it always has more flavor to me first thing in the morning), and a very mild throat hit (it probably wouldn't have had any if it wasn't first thing in the morning.

Refill time again... Same as last refill. Both 1 & 2 took about 0.3 ml of niquid. Time to try them again.

And it's a no go. Both 1 & 2 on a fresh battery have good vapor, ok flavor, and no throat hit.

Now's when I used 3. I saved one just so I can compare a fresh one filled with the same liquid as went into 1 & 2 the first time. Pop on a fresh battery and it's where I want it to be; great vapor, good flavor, and throat hit. Now I think to my self, could it be the battery? So I put the battery that gave me the unsatisfactory results with 1 & 2, and it's the same as a completely fresh battery.

So where do I go from here? I'm gonna take 1 & 2 and give 1 a rinse and blow a little later today (unless someone has another idea). And I'll give 2 a diet coke bath for a little while, and rinse and blow.

But judging by what's happened in the past, I have a feeling that 1 & 2 will never have the flavor and throat hit it should have; even being a used disposable, and only having had used 0.6 ml of niquid, no chance of having been burnt or anything else. That's less than 2/3 of the liquid that's in a full new cart.

I'm crossing my fingers hoping that someone has an idea as to what the heck I can do. I love the flavor, but I don't want to waste that much liquid or the carts...

Sorry for the long post, I'm hoping that someone will see this much info and it'll give them an idea. I'll check back later. Thanks for any help :)
 

alphafemale

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I will agree that they are not the same when you refill. TH is not an issue for me but vapor is. It does take a bit to start getting good vapor-fresh or refilled.

The bottom line for me is the nicotine-as long as I'm gettin that fix, everything is otay!

I don't use a syringe to refill or add to my cartos. I drip into the end that has the threads (one drop at a time-it will suck it right in) or I pop off the caps and drip onto the white stuff.

It has been posted that giving them a rinse with vodka after the water bath helps, but I haven't tried that yet. And you have to make sure that they are good and dry before refilling. I let mine sit a day or two, some put a fan on them.

Keep us posted!
 

ryanSTi

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I don't think it's my method, or the actual cartys. Chocolate Macadamia Nut is the only flavor that I have an issue with. It loses TH and Flavor after 2 refills. When I refill with RedBull, Vanilla Caramel, Vanilla, Cherry Bomb, Butterscotch, Almond Joy, etc; I don't have that issue. I use RedBull the most, some of my RedBull carts have over 30 refills and I can just barely tell the difference... And the same goes for the other flavors, some may only have 10-15-20; but I can't tell the difference... My RedBull carts have never been washed or rinsed...

And I need that TH and Flavor, if it was only about getting nic for me I'd be using the patch as it's a LOT easier, and may even be cheaper... But I like the hand to mouth action of the e-cigs, and the fact I'm puffing something that tastes good that has TH...

If only cartys were free :) But even still, I could fill a cart with 1.05 ml, use 0.3 ml and have to toss the last 0.7 ...
 

ryanSTi

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Its possible that its such a rich flavor, your tastebuds get used to it fast, chasing that first frsh hit....Its happened to me a few times w a few flavors and I found a few weeks later, its all back to normal....I dunno...

Crash, that was one of my first thoughts. But what I did to check was after 1 & 2 were re-filled for the second time and lost the TH and Flavor, I used the third that was filled at the same time as 1 & 2 were for the first time, and it tasted good and had the TH that I would expect.

Does anyone on here use Chocolate Macadamia Nut 24mg? If so what carty or atty and cart do you use? Any flavor or throat hit issues? Maybe some one bought a trial and like it at first and the same thing happened so they just assumed they didn't like it.
 

ryanSTi

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Drew? Anyone else on here? I'm still having the same problem. I've found that if I keep filling it like I was dripping, I use about 0.2ml each time. And after a few times 3, maybe 4 it loses flavor. It really sucks because I've had to toss about 25/30 out and each of thos had atleast 0.7ml of juice.

Is there something that I could be doing wrong? If so what? Is it this specific juice or dark juices in general? I would hate to stop using the juice, but I can't afford to keep this up...

Thanks for any ideas...
 
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