Question about juice and my PV

[vochslu]

So, I just recently bought a Itaste SVD with Iclear30. Love this thing. I have been using Extreme Ice from MBV mixed at 50/50 18MG. I'm running dual coil on this Iclear and it's reading out at 2.1ohm. I'm currently at 4.5V and 7.5W. It seems like my juice is getting a burnt taste to it now. When I drop either the V or the W. I don't get the vape that I want from it. Either too little vapor or too little taste depending on which way I go with it. When I was first starting to burn this juice I thought it tasted just fine. It seems as if the juice is now bad. I read about steeping and left it in the cupboard for probably the last 3 weeks with the cap off. Does this make the juice go bad quicker? It seems that every vape on this juice is getting worse by the refill... Oh, if it matters at all I usually throw a little butterscotch at 80/20 18mg into it after I fill up the tank with 2.5 ice usually top it off with butterscotch to give it a little sweeter taste... Something is wrong. Also, I switched to the second tank that came with my itaste package and it does the same thing. So, thats why I'm pointing my finger at the juice and not the tank/ato...

Suggestions?

Thanks in advance!!

***Edit**** Also left the butterscotch in the cupboard too with cap off...

 

[vochslu]

Maybe a different mix of vg/pg??????????

 

[Canderson180]

Rms or avg power mode?

 

[Chimney34]

Rule of thumb I learned when I first started vaping using vv is +2. So take whatever you resistance is, so in this case 2.1, & add 2 to the voltage. If you go above that you're likely to risk burning. So you should be able to safely vape @ a max of 4.1 volts without burning. It's worked for me so far. Hope this helps.

 

[wv2win]

So, I just recently bought a Itaste SVD with Iclear30. Love this thing. I have been using Extreme Ice from MBV mixed at 50/50 18MG. I'm running dual coil on this Iclear and it's reading out at 2.1ohm. I'm currently at 4.5V and 7.5W. It seems like my juice is getting a burnt taste to it now. When I drop either the V or the W. I don't get the vape that I want from it. Either too little vapor or too little taste depending on which way I go with it. When I was first starting to burn this juice I thought it tasted just fine. It seems as if the juice is now bad. I read about steeping and left it in the cupboard for probably the last 3 weeks with the cap off. Does this make the juice go bad quicker? It seems that every vape on this juice is getting worse by the refill... Oh, if it matters at all I usually throw a little butterscotch at 80/20 18mg into it after I fill up the tank with 2.5 ice usually top it off with butterscotch to give it a little sweeter taste... Something is wrong. Also, I switched to the second tank that came with my itaste package and it does the same thing. So, thats why I'm pointing my finger at the juice and not the tank/ato...

Suggestions?

Thanks in advance!!

***Edit**** Also left the butterscotch in the cupboard too with cap off...

It's not the dual coil carto or the eliquid. It's the Itaste PV. My strong guess is that is has a weak 2.5 amp switch. To run a 2.0 ohm or lower DCC, your PV needs to have a 3.5 amp or higher switch. If you were using a Vamo, for example, which has a 5 amp switch, you would be vapin away without a problem. Zmax or Provari will also handle these DCC's without a problem.

 

[wv2win]

Rule of thumb I learned when I first started vaping using vv is +2. So take whatever you resistance is, so in this case 2.1, & add 2 to the voltage. If you go above that you're likely to risk burning. So you should be able to safely vape @ a max of 4.1 volts without burning. It's worked for me so far. Hope this helps.

That doesn't apply with dual coils, however, as I understand it.

When vaping a 1.5 ohm dual coil carto/atty, most of us set the watts in the 11.5 - 12.5 range and if using VV, set the volts in the 4.5 - 5.0 volt range.

 

[Chimney34]

Sorry, I should probably step away from the computer screen. I missed that part of the post! Hope you figure out a solution soon! I know how frustrating it can be!

 

[vochslu]

It's not the dual coil carto or the eliquid. It's the Itaste PV. My strong guess is that is has a weak 2.5 amp switch. To run a 2.0 ohm or lower DCC, your PV needs to have a 3.5 amp or higher switch. If you were using a Vamo, for example, which has a 5 amp switch, you would be vapin away without a problem. Zmax or Provari will also handle these DCC's without a problem.

So after tons of research on this PV, I was between the Vamo (which was cheaper) and this Itaste... Your telling me that I don't have a good device that works well with what it comes with? There has got to be a better answer....

 

[Baditude]

So after tons of research on this PV, I was between the Vamo (which was cheaper) and this Itaste... Your telling me that I don't have a good device that works well with what it comes with? There has got to be a better answer....

wv2win has more experience than I with dual coils, he should know what he's talking about.

To vochslu, do you have any single coil delivery devices to use? This might settle the debate about whether it is the battery device, the juice, or the juice delivery device.

 

[vochslu]

wv2win has more experience than I with dual coils, he should know what he's talking about.

To vochslu, do you have any single coil delivery devices to use? This might settle the debate about whether it is the battery device, the juice, or the juice delivery device.

Not at the moment. I'm away on business 5 hours from home... Not gonna be able to grab my vivi nova or my kanger tank to test... I might be able to go pick one up at a local shop if I can find one.

 

[Baditude]

Not at the moment. I'm away on business 5 hours from home... Not gonna be able to grab my vivi nova or my kanger tank to test... I might be able to go pick one up at a local shop if I can find one.

Sorry to hear that. Well, I hope you can find a local shop. You might need to get a couple of disposable e-cigs until you can get back home again to tide you over.

Lesson learned: Always have backups (in this case, a delivery device) for your backups (including spare batteries and e-juice).

 

[vochslu]

Ok, so I just put in some other juice that I only vape on occasion... 80/20 Thug Juice from MBV with 1 extra shot of flavor... This juice taste better than it did with my vision spinner and vivi nova... no burnt taste.... Maybe I'm just burned out on the other juice... Back to trying to find another good menthol I guess....

 

[Baditude]

You may find that certain juices will perform better in different delivery devices, this is true. This is probably why most of us have a variety of different ones on hand, even though we eventually end up with a primary go-to one.

My favorite flavor genre for cartotanks are coffee flavors, but I don't care for them in my RBA's for some reason.

 

[vochslu]

well after however long its been since i posted it, I now am getting a slightly burnt taste again...

 

[wv2win]

So after tons of research on this PV, I was between the Vamo (which was cheaper) and this Itaste... Your telling me that I don't have a good device that works well with what it comes with? There has got to be a better answer....

The symptons you are describing do fit the problem of a PV with a switch regulator too weak to handle lower ohm dual coil cartos. Bad's advice is good. If the problem did not occur with a single coil carto/atty, it would better confirm the problem.

It's also possible the carto could just be a "dud". I get on average one bad carto out of every 5 - 10 I buy and they also provide that burnt taste.

 

[wv2win]

I just watched a PBusardo reveiw of the SVD. Although he never stated what the amps of the switch regulator is on the SVD, it's obvious that it has a powerful enough switch regulator to use a 1.5 ohm dual coil head, so that is not your problem.

Here is my suggestion: first, make sure you are using it in "Power" mode and adjusting your wattage and NOT using it in "voltage" mode and adjusting your voltage. The Vamo has this same distinction, that when using lower ohm dual coils, you need to be using it in power mode and adjusting your wattage. Second, to get the most power out of the unit, use two 18350 batteries which will provide a little more accuracy in your settings.

If you are still having an issue after making these changes, then the problem is with the head you are using.

 

[Baditude]

well after however long its been since i posted it, I now am getting a slightly burnt taste again...

The main reason that I switched from dual coils to single coil cartos for my tanks was I often would get a burnt taste with the duals. After making the switch, I rarely experienced the issue again.

Part of this could be that I now know that I prefer a cooler vape. I find warmer vapor to be somewhat harsh. Therefore, I don't use low resistance coils, nor dual coils. Bottom coil clearos are more tolerable to me than top coils. This is just a preference of my own. However I can get a cooler vape, that's what I want.

Another theory that I have is that the top coil in a dual coil cartomizer may not get enough juice after some vaping with it. The top coil would be located at about the middle third of the carto tube. As you vape, suction pulls juice downward from the polyfill. This is why the filler appears dry looking after a few vapes; this is normal and unavoidable.

Normal wicking from the tank does not replace all the juice that is vaped from the carto, but it does keep the bottom coil area wet because that is where the holes in the carto are. It's possible that the juice doesn't wick all the way up to keep the top coil wet, so it ends up eventualy burning the filler and causing a burnt taste.

Anyway, that's my thoughts, and I'm sticking to it. Vochslu, switch to single coil cartomizers and see what I mean.

 

[wv2win]

Bad, if you have a model that can handle DCC's, like the Vamo, you may want to give them a second try in a tank. I never have the "burnt" issue especially when using them in a tank. I would make sure you get tanks that have three holes for the best saturation of the coils.

 

[Baditude]

Bad, if you have a model that can handle DCC's, like the Vamo, you may want to give them a second try in a tank. I never have the "burnt" issue especially when using them in a tank. I would make sure you get tanks that have three holes for the best saturation of the coils.

Actually, I have used dual coils with my Provari. I found some that I had stacked away for a rainy day when I decided to stick with single coil cartos. They were fine initially, but after about 30 minutes in, I started detecting some burnt taste as I had before. Granted, these were 2 hole laser-drilled cartos. The resistance were 1.5 ohm which I was vaping between 3.7 - 4.5 v and never found a sweet spot.

Sorry, I prefer single coils.

 

[lmp9002002]

Not sure if it's already been posted, but i'd try a different tank. My Iclear 30 seems to vape how it wants, when it wants. Sometimes it gurgles, sometimes it gurgles, sometimes it hits very weak, sometimes it hits very well. All with the same juice and same voltage. And i've never heard anything but great things about Mt Baker Vapor (My experience with them has been great as well, although i haven't tried those specific flavors) and those flavors especially seem to have rave reviews. Protanks for the win.