Question about nicotine levels when switching to a sub ohm set up

[PJReid]

I have been vaping for nearly three years. I started with a Joyetech Ecab, moved up to a Joyetech Ego-CC, then switched to cartomizers that were larger and easier (for me) to use and bought different brands of Ego batteries. I was starting to be dissatisfied with my vaping, so decided to upgrade.

I bought an iTaste MVP 3.0 Pro 60w and an Innokin iSub G Tank. The iSub G Tank pops and is quite loud. Is this normal? I read somewhere else that the popping problem with the tank self corrects with use.

My main question is this. Is it common for nicotine to hit harder with a sub ohm set up? I have been vaping 12 mgs for all of my nearly three years of vaping. When I used that (80% PG / 20% VG) in the iSub, it seemed to make me feel a bit sick and light headed. That has never been a problem using an Ego system so I wondered if this is a common problem for people when they go with a sub ohm system? I did order some 0% nicotine in my favorite flavor so that I can cut the nicotine in half.

Thanks in advance for any input.

 

[curiousJan]

Yep, you're likely overdoing the nic. Are you going through niquid faster with the new setup? If yes, you're definitely overdoing the nic. I also used 12mg before I tried subohm. When I switched I lowered nic-content from 12 to 3. I'm quite happy at 3 when subohming.

 

[WharfRat1976]

I have been vaping for nearly three years. I started with a Joyetech Ecab, moved up to a Joyetech Ego-CC, then switched to cartomizers that were larger and easier (for me) to use and bought different brands of Ego batteries. I was starting to be dissatisfied with my vaping, so decided to upgrade.

I bought an iTaste MVP 3.0 Pro 60w and an Innokin iSub G Tank. The iSub G Tank pops and is quite loud. Is this normal? I read somewhere else that the popping problem with the tank self corrects with use.

My main question is this. Is it common for nicotine to hit harder with a sub ohm set up? I have been vaping 12 mgs for all of my nearly three years of vaping. When I used that (80% PG / 20% VG) in the iSub, it seemed to make me feel a bit sick and light headed. That has never been a problem using an Ego system so I wondered if this is a common problem for people when they go with a sub ohm system? I did order some 0% nicotine in my favorite flavor so that I can cut the nicotine in half.

Thanks in advance for any input.

Any juice will "hit harder" under more power. 80%PG would gag me to death. I don't know how people do it let alone at 12mg nic.

Ramp your power up starting lower and find your sweet spot.

 

[PJReid]

Thank you. It made sense to me that might be the problem. I haven't even used the new setup much today since it wasn't agreeing with me. I hope that when I get the 0% liquid, cutting it in half will help. If not, I will cut to by two thirds to 3.

Yep, you're likely overdoing the nic. Are you going through niquid faster with the new setup? If yes, you're definitely overdoing the nic. I also used 12mg before I tried subohm. When I switched I lowered nic-content from 12 to 3. I'm quite happy at 3 when subohming.

 

[PJReid]

Any juice will "hit harder" under more power. 80%PG would gag me to death. I don't know how people do it let alone at 12mg nic.

Ramp your power up starting lower and find your sweet spot.

What PG/VG % do you recommend? I just bought a HUGE bottle of my favorite and have no idea how to lower the PG if that is the problem. I may be stuck with the huge bottle if the PG is part of the problem.

 

[curiousJan]

What wattage do you have your MVP set to? What resistance is your coil?

I use 50/50 or 55/45 PG/VG. I can't tolerate higher VG levels, so I'm used to the PG.

 

[PJReid]

What wattage do you have your MVP set to? What resistance is your coil?

I use 50/50 or 55/45 PG/VG. I can't tolerate higher VG levels, so I'm used to the PG.

The iSub G recommended on the package to set the wattage at 20 to 35, so I went with 20. The iSub G coil is 0.5. I am currently running it at 3.5 volts.

 

[curiousJan]

So not terribly hot ... the popping should subside.

 

[PJReid]

So not terribly hot ... the popping should subside.

Thank you. I think I am going to wait for the 0% nic liquid before I play with this MFS anymore. Lowering the nic level will hopefully help. If that doesn't resolve my issue, I will change the PG/VG ratio, though I don't think that is an issue for me since I have been using this for so long. Still, I might like a different combo more.

 

[curiousJan]

Just remember trying to adjust the ratio with plain PG/VG will mute the flavor. I'd mix half the bottle of 0% with an equal amount of the 12mg. Then if that's too strong you can drop it to 3mg by adding the other half bottle of 0%.

Good luck and happy vaping!

 

[bwh79]

My main question is this. Is it common for nicotine to hit harder with a sub ohm set up?

Absolutely it is. Lower ohms are (generally) achieved with thicker wire. Thicker wire needs more power. More power creates more heat. More heat vaporizes more juice. More juice delivers more nicotine. More nicotine gives a stronger "throat hit." Many (most?) people find they need to cut their nic level roughly in half when switching to a sub-ohm setup.

have no idea how to lower the PG if that is the problem.

Add more VG. This will also lower the nic, but you're planning to do that already by adding 0mg. Just get your 0mg in VG, or in a higher VG/PG ratio than what your juice is now.

 

[PJReid]

@curiousJan and @bwh79 - thanks for the great advice. I will start with cutting the nicotine and go from there.

 

[bwh79]

@curiousJan and @bwh79 - thanks for the great advice. I will start with cutting the nicotine and go from there.

Don't cut it all at once. Especially since you have a "huge" bottle; you don't want to waste it if you don't like the result. If you cut the nic and then find you still need to lower the PG, you won't be able to do so without cutting the nic even more. Start with a small amount, and see if you like it. Then you can adjust from there, or mix it all up once you zero in on what you do like. Welcome to the wonderful world of DIY!

 

[PJReid]

Don't cut it all at once. Especially since you have a "huge" bottle; you don't want to waste it if you don't like the result. If you cut the nic and then find you still need to lower the PG, you won't be able to do so without cutting the nic even more. Start with a small amount, and see if you like it. Then you can adjust from there, or mix it all up once you zero in on what you do like. Welcome to the wonderful world of DIY!

That was my plan. Great minds and all that jazz! Never really thought I would go DIY but necessity compels.

 

[Maiar]

Yeah the iSub is gonna make a racket especially if it hasn't been used for a few hours. That's pretty normal I found. As for dosage, I'm usually on 12 as well. but it hits me too hard in the isub or my subtank mini (which is vastly superior in terms of flavor and slightly better in terms of vapor production) so I use 6mg juice in the sub ohms and that seems to work pretty well. So what I usually do is keep two big nautilus's full of 12mg and one of the subtanks full with 6 and just kinda use whatever flavor I feel like at the time.

 

[PJReid]

To all that answered, thank you so very much. I mixed my favorite flavor with 0% nic juice to reduce the nic level to 3% and the vaping experience with the MVP is MUCH better. No more dizziness, no more nausea. I have a feeling that I will still use my small Eleaf mods for stealth vaping so might use the 12% juice I already have for that. Then again, maybe I can sell it on Ebay as I think I can easily go down to 6% even with those mods. I am also ordering some new flavors to try out. That didn't work out so well for me in the beginning since I had always smoked menthol analogs but my palate has changed and some different flavors might increase my enjoyment even more.

 

[Douggro]

To all that answered, thank you so very much. I mixed my favorite flavor with 0% nic juice to reduce the nic level to 3% and the vaping experience with the MVP is MUCH better. No more dizziness, no more nausea. I have a feeling that I will still use my small Eleaf mods for stealth vaping so might use the 12% juice I already have for that. Then again, maybe I can sell it on Ebay as I think I can easily go down to 6% even with those mods. I am also ordering some new flavors to try out. That didn't work out so well for me in the beginning since I had always smoked menthol analogs but my palate has changed and some different flavors might increase my enjoyment even more.

I vape 3 and 6mg juices and the 6mg stuff goes in my low-power units for me to tootle on when I don't want the bigger hits and clouds from my other tanks. Great for in the AM with the coffee. You might be able to save your 12mg stuff with a 25% cut of VG/PG to get it to 9mg without killing the flavor off too much.

 

[PJReid]

I vape 3 and 6mg juices and the 6mg stuff goes in my low-power units for me to tootle on when I don't want the bigger hits and clouds from my other tanks. Great for in the AM with the coffee. You might be able to save your 12mg stuff with a 25% cut of VG/PG to get it to 9mg without killing the flavor off too much.

Thanks for the tip. I think I will be learning quite a lot about DIY and mixing now. At least I solved one problem. Funny, I am still enjoying vaping with my low-power mod. I guess that the MVP takes some getting used to but I will get there.

 

[Douggro]

Thanks for the tip. I think I will be learning quite a lot about DIY and mixing now. At least I solved one problem. Funny, I am still enjoying vaping with my low-power mod. I guess that the MVP takes some getting used to but I will get there.

I'm trying to break the wife into the idea of DIY. (She's not keen on it at the moment.) Definitely go through the DIY sections here and get the pointers for sources of supplies and some recipes to start with. And I rotate through my setups through the day and enjoy them all - I'll just vape whatever one appeals to me at the moment - so you're okay with still liking your other setups. Enjoy!

 

[PJReid]

I'm trying to break the wife into the idea of DIY. (She's not keen on it at the moment.) Definitely go through the DIY sections here and get the pointers for sources of supplies and some recipes to start with. And I rotate through my setups through the day and enjoy them all - I'll just vape whatever one appeals to me at the moment - so you're okay with still liking your other setups. Enjoy!

Thanks so much! I will read that section carefully. I am a good cook, so might turn out to be good at that as well. I will always enjoy my smaller set ups for stealth vaping, but am getting used to the MVP. I am glad for that because I would have really hated to have wasted the money spent on that along with the liquid I need to either get rid of or operate on to make it useable for me now. I am so happy this forum is here with the answers to so many questions.