Question about tempature
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Possibly, 450 f isn't that hot. But it all depends on how big your coil is and how many watts you are pushing.
I use a JAC for TC. Part of their software includes a real time graph of temperature among other variables. If that graph is correct, the JAC temperature never goes more than a few degrees over the 400 F that I set. Other variables change, the temperature remains relatively constant + or - about five degrees.
If you're in wattage mode you've got no idea what the temperature is. Could your exceed 450F chain vaping? Sure. You might even be exceeding it with a single hit at 85-90W, and no you cannot always tell from how the vape feels to you. Subjective judgement does not consistently bear up in figuring out how hot the coil is getting. It's the coil temp that matters, not the vapor you inhale.
Using the power mode makes my post irrelevant, my apologies. I made an assumption that you were using temperature control.
If you have a temperature control capable mod and coils made using stainless steel wire, you should take advantage of that capability. This is especially true if you're chain vaping and also worried about the small amounts of dangerous chemicals that could result from vaping at temperatures over 450 F.
Nickel and Titanium wire can also be used for TC vaping, but only stainless wire can do both TC and wattage.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with power only. But the degree of control you have is greatly increased with TC.
Nickel and Titanium wire can also be used for TC vaping, but only stainless wire can do both TC and wattage.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with power only. But the degree of control you have is greatly increased with TC.
I use a Kayfun 5. I like it, I find it to be an easy build and wick, good flavor - but kind of costly.
See I don’t know how to build or any of that that’s the thing
I’d like to learn, just don’t know what to get. Is an rta tc?
It can be if you use a wire such as stainless steel or titanium for your coil.
But I believe there are drop in coils that can be used for TC.
I use the original Uwell Crown clearomizer tank. It has pre-made drop-in coils using either stainless steel (O.5 ohm and 0.25 ohm) or nickle (0.15 ohm) wire. You could use either option in TC. The nickle coils can be used only with TC, not wattage mode.
Having used all three, I personally prefer the stainless steel 0.5 ohm coils in wattage mode.
Authentic Uwell Crown Sub Ohm Tank Clearomizer . Technically it is a sub-ohm tank, but you don't have to sub-ohm with it. It has 1.2 ohm coils available for it as well as sub-ohm coils. It is an easy top fill (4ml capacity). It has a ratcheted air control ring which allows wide open direct lung draws down to a tight mouth-to-lung draw.
It has a wide bore metal mouthpiece, but you can always replace it with any inexpensive small bore mouthpiece if you desire. I'm not a fan of metal drip tips, so I replaced it with a delrin tip.
Great flavor, a lot of vapor. Very versatile for just about any style of vaper.
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Temperature depends on tank construction, type of juice, amount of airflow, wattage, and a bunch of other stuff.
I don't use TC all the time, but I have used best-practices to avoid high temps. Those included adding DW to my max VG (I am PG sensitive) rotating setups, improving airflow, when chain-vaping rotating mods.
It's really almost impossible to tell how hot your coil is getting based on the "vape" temperature, but things can be done to reduce risk WHILE you are getting up and TC vaping.
Starting TC with drop in coils does have advantages and the Crown is reputed to be a great tank. You'll get a sense of how TC-works on the mod you are using. MOST but not all drop-in TC coils nowadays are SS, but titanium is still common in some. Just make sure you watch a video review or two for your device's TC and how to use it, it's just the easiest way to go in my opinion. Various mod-makers offer various levels of precision and customization culminating currently in the DNA mods, which are most precise. But plenty of non-DNA mods do TC fairly well.
Using an RTA or an RDA is also a good way to use TC. Finding something that would suit your needs will be step one. I'd suggest a single coil RTA to start, for ease of building and also so you don't have such a tiny area to build. You can buy premade coils but unless exotic, most folks wind up making their own. You can check out the rebuildable atomizer board her for some good resources, including how to build to a specific resistance using an online tool called steam-engine.org. You basically need, well, veteran builders say a screwdriver that you know the diameter of, I was happier to buy a coilmaster kit which comes with a coil-wrapping jig and most tools that you'll need, although they aren't the highest quality tools, they tend to suffice. You will also get an ohms reader which you can screw your deck onto and measure the resistance of your coil by test firing it. You can do that on your mod, as well, if you don't want to invest in a lot of tools, but I find the ohm's reader a nice, stable deck I can pretty much assemble my tank onto including fill with juice, and test fire before I place it on my expensive, tippy mod. I've pretty much done everything terrible you can do to the ohm's reader besides catch it on fire, including leaking all over it and etc., but then I'm out $12 not an expensive mod.
If you want to explore the TC thing, you can, if you want to get into building your own coils, you will save on coil costs AND get a very different (to me good) quality vape. RTAs take some time and learning but they are ultimately worth it and for the cost of a few spools of wire (and in my opinion the best wicking is rayon ) so a box of Rayon, you can be self-sufficient for years and if you choose stainless steel SL16 I think is the standard, wire, well, you can vape in wattage or TC mode. It's a fun process but give yourself some time if you undertake it, research what you think might appeal to you, and try to have fun along the way.
Good luck,
Anna
I don't use TC all the time, but I have used best-practices to avoid high temps. Those included adding DW to my max VG (I am PG sensitive) rotating setups, improving airflow, when chain-vaping rotating mods.
It's really almost impossible to tell how hot your coil is getting based on the "vape" temperature, but things can be done to reduce risk WHILE you are getting up and TC vaping.
Starting TC with drop in coils does have advantages and the Crown is reputed to be a great tank. You'll get a sense of how TC-works on the mod you are using. MOST but not all drop-in TC coils nowadays are SS, but titanium is still common in some. Just make sure you watch a video review or two for your device's TC and how to use it, it's just the easiest way to go in my opinion. Various mod-makers offer various levels of precision and customization culminating currently in the DNA mods, which are most precise. But plenty of non-DNA mods do TC fairly well.
Using an RTA or an RDA is also a good way to use TC. Finding something that would suit your needs will be step one. I'd suggest a single coil RTA to start, for ease of building and also so you don't have such a tiny area to build. You can buy premade coils but unless exotic, most folks wind up making their own. You can check out the rebuildable atomizer board her for some good resources, including how to build to a specific resistance using an online tool called steam-engine.org. You basically need, well, veteran builders say a screwdriver that you know the diameter of, I was happier to buy a coilmaster kit which comes with a coil-wrapping jig and most tools that you'll need, although they aren't the highest quality tools, they tend to suffice. You will also get an ohms reader which you can screw your deck onto and measure the resistance of your coil by test firing it. You can do that on your mod, as well, if you don't want to invest in a lot of tools, but I find the ohm's reader a nice, stable deck I can pretty much assemble my tank onto including fill with juice, and test fire before I place it on my expensive, tippy mod. I've pretty much done everything terrible you can do to the ohm's reader besides catch it on fire, including leaking all over it and etc., but then I'm out $12 not an expensive mod.
If you want to explore the TC thing, you can, if you want to get into building your own coils, you will save on coil costs AND get a very different (to me good) quality vape. RTAs take some time and learning but they are ultimately worth it and for the cost of a few spools of wire (and in my opinion the best wicking is rayon ) so a box of Rayon, you can be self-sufficient for years and if you choose stainless steel SL16 I think is the standard, wire, well, you can vape in wattage or TC mode. It's a fun process but give yourself some time if you undertake it, research what you think might appeal to you, and try to have fun along the way.
Good luck,
Anna
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I don't think so. According to this, the wire used in these replacement coils is kanthal, which you can't use with Temp Control. Must use Power/wattage mode with kanthal wire.
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I don't think there are SS coils available for the Val. As @Baditude points out though, the Crown original (also made my Uwell) does have SS coils available.
The Kanger Toptank and Subtank Mini are also good options and there are SS coils available as well as a rebuildable coil head in the package.
Neither of those options are going to do well in the 90 Watt range, however. Those are pretty much limited to the 40 Watt range.
What device are you using to power the Val?
The Kanger Toptank and Subtank Mini are also good options and there are SS coils available as well as a rebuildable coil head in the package.
Neither of those options are going to do well in the 90 Watt range, however. Those are pretty much limited to the 40 Watt range.
What device are you using to power the Val?
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