I picked this up about three days ago. I have been running it with a smok telescope mod with a 18350. I'm getting very poor vapor from it. When I put a fresh charged battery it will work for a little bit, but its hit or miss. It doesnt fire all the time and after about 10 minutes it starts puttering out. I check the battery voltage through the mod and getting 4v. It works fine without the kick but soon as i put it in the mod i get almost nothing. It doesnt smell like it burned out, and with every tank, atomizer, or carto it is not working well. Did i get a bad kick or is it really draining the battery that fast? I have heard it make clicking noises, staggered firing, and sometimes just nothing.
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I have a Kick in a Natural mod that works as expected.
I know the Kick needs to be grounded well with the side-mounted spring ground. Do some searching on google to see if people have to mod the inner tube of the Telescope to make a good solid ground. This could cause issues with the electronics in the Kick.
Otherwise, with a freshly charged 18350, you should see a decrease in battery life for that charge cycle, but only on the order of 10 to 20%.
Another thing to check is that you have the wattage set to some decent level, say 7 to 8 Watts? If it's all the way down at 5 Watts, it'll perform rather poorly with vapor production. Also, the kick likes to see between 2 to 3 Ohms for the load. Verify that you're in that range.
I know the Kick needs to be grounded well with the side-mounted spring ground. Do some searching on google to see if people have to mod the inner tube of the Telescope to make a good solid ground. This could cause issues with the electronics in the Kick.
Otherwise, with a freshly charged 18350, you should see a decrease in battery life for that charge cycle, but only on the order of 10 to 20%.
Another thing to check is that you have the wattage set to some decent level, say 7 to 8 Watts? If it's all the way down at 5 Watts, it'll perform rather poorly with vapor production. Also, the kick likes to see between 2 to 3 Ohms for the load. Verify that you're in that range.
It is set to about 9 watts. I think it might actually be the mod the more i mess with it. The tube seems to be a bit wobbly, probably opening the ground connection. Hopefully there is a fix for this, but I was leaning towards tossing this POS as a backup and getting something along the EA mod. Just hoping some other smok telescope owners could say they had similar problems so I know if i should return the kick and not waste 50$
The kick does drain a batteries charge.That puttering you are mentioning is the kicks safety feature kicking in.When the battery hits 3.7v's the kicks low voltage safety feature turns it off.You can reset this by simply taking the kick out and putting it back in the mod,which is a big PITA.I think you have a bad unit and i would contact evolv CS for a replacement.
EDIT: I stopped using my telescope when i got my Legacy,but had no problems using the kick with it.
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Have you had grounding issues with your telescope? Mine seems to work when I wiggle it so think it might just be the mod.
No did not have any issues for the short time i used it.What do you mean by it seems to work better when you wiggle it??? Do you mean at the connection point the tubes come together???
Yeah were the tubes connect doesn't seem solid. It moves a little bit when extended past a normal 18350. I am starting to really regret this buy and it has had nothing but problems. It is nice and heavy but the switch broke after two days of having it and no matter how i adjust the 510 pin i cant get some of my RBAs to work on it.
The telescope has way too many threads than it actually needs and they should have been buttery smooth,which they are not.People have said they had problems with the wobbling in 18650 mode because the threads barely screwed down on the device,never heard anything about problems in 18350 mode though? Yes i agree i thought i waisted money on mine too which is why i quickly purchased another mech. mod made in the U.S.the telescope was also taughted as FULLY mech. which it is NOT.the top cap uses a wire for the atomizer connection and it is an under gauged wire at that,again,not made in the U.S.And we come to the switch which has been getting alot of complaints.There is a thread somewhere here(i forgot which thread)with a youtube vid.,the user had replaced his switch with another either from the gun metal telescope,or the Segelei Telescope,i forget which one it was but he said,the one he used to replace was a stronger switch than the SS switch.Sounds like the connector on some of the RBA's you are using are just not making connection.If they are adjustable on the RBA try that or try using a little jewelers screwdriver and popping the pin out a little.
I'll try popping the pins out thanks. The gun metal and chrome switches don't match the threads of the ss. At least mine didn't
I'm also using a telescope with kick and 18350 battery, I have that puttering with freshly charged batteries?
That is the kick's low battery protection kicking in.Did you use a meter on the batts when they came off the charger?? The 18350 is not going to last very long using a kick anyway.Try grabbing a batt fresh off the charger and see if it happens again.I would contact evolv if it does.But like i said,if you are using 18350's the kick will not last that long.That batt is only 800Mah so once it gets to around the 600Mah mark(if not before),the kick's protection is going to kick in.
You can get around this if you want to use the batt by simply removing and replacing the kick back in the tube.It resets the kick and will last until the protection kicks in again.This could become a little of a PITA to keep doing though.
Same thing with 18500. 18650 won't fit. What's weird is it it worked for the 18500 for a couple drags the first time. Removing and putting it back in does not reset it.
You are having conductivity issues. You need to sand down the inside of your tube and clean it where the negative ground spring contacts the tube... From the kick instructions...
GROUND SPRING:You will notice a small spring attached to the top (side edge) of the Kick. This has been carefully designed and is an ESSENTIAL component of the Kick for proper functioning. The spring MUST make contact with the grounded inner wall of the battery tube. If this spring does not make contact, the Kick will not function. SOME (few) DEVICES HAVE ANODIZED or POWDER COAT ON THE INSIDE OF THE BATTERY Compartment. This can interfere with the ground connection. These coatings must be removed at the point of contact with the ground spring.NOTE: DEVICE TUBES VARY – The internal diameter is wider on some and narrower on others. Please do not use the Kick in tube mods with an internal diameter greater than 19.5mm.
GROUND SPRING:You will notice a small spring attached to the top (side edge) of the Kick. This has been carefully designed and is an ESSENTIAL component of the Kick for proper functioning. The spring MUST make contact with the grounded inner wall of the battery tube. If this spring does not make contact, the Kick will not function. SOME (few) DEVICES HAVE ANODIZED or POWDER COAT ON THE INSIDE OF THE BATTERY Compartment. This can interfere with the ground connection. These coatings must be removed at the point of contact with the ground spring.NOTE: DEVICE TUBES VARY – The internal diameter is wider on some and narrower on others. Please do not use the Kick in tube mods with an internal diameter greater than 19.5mm.
+1 on the conductivity issues...
I use my Kick on 4 different mechanical mods (including the Smok Telescope) with no problems.
Make sure the Kick's side spring is not located next to the venting holes and has contact with the tube itself.
I use my Kick on 4 different mechanical mods (including the Smok Telescope) with no problems.
Make sure the Kick's side spring is not located next to the venting holes and has contact with the tube itself.
Is normal sandpaper okay? or should I get metal specific? I have neither so I'll get some tomorrow. It fires without the kick which I've been satisfied with.
Make sure your resistance is not too low, like someone else mentioned. Another thing that helps out a lot is to get one of those little spacer magnets, this really helps alot. Also, and you have to be careful doing this, is to give a little tug on the spring. Sometimes its not making a snug contact and needs to be pulled a touch. Mine after a while get compacted and I just grab firmly but gentle and tug on it and it performs wonderful again.
I sanded the inside, also the top and bottom of the kick, and used a brand new battery as advised by an evolv rep, It still won't work. Where would you get the spacer magnets? The spring is definitely making contact with the tube.
EDIT: I put noalox on the inside threads, and still puttering. Battery reads 4.2V without load and 3.75 under.
EDIT: I put noalox on the inside threads, and still puttering. Battery reads 4.2V without load and 3.75 under.
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