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I am new to vaping and I recently purchased a modern vapor sideshow and am disappointed about the amount of vapor I am receving. I was just wondering if the amount of vapor is more depended on the eliquid or the atty I have used both cartridge and atty and cartos. I was also wondering which company makes e liquid with the most vapor in the usa if it is in fact the eliquid.
 

Vapoor eyes er

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Hi and welcome to ECF.
More VG in the juice = more vapor. Most juice is 80/ 20 or 20/ 30 PG/ VG. Heavier VG will clog up the cartos and/ or attys. Hopefully you ordered manual batteries as this gives you greater control over your vape and less risk of damage to batteries from juice. I went to the website and, unfortunately, I believe you could've bought another product for less $$. PG can be purchased in any pharmacy in the Band Aids Section. Wait for dormouse to give you further advice as she is very knowledgeable.
Good Luck, Vapoor.
I couldn't find a return policy?
 

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Liquid with higher amount of VG will produce more vapor and I think it is a bit sweeter. However, there is a trade off with higher VG as it will mute the flavor a bit and mellow the throat hit. You can get liquid in any ratio from 0 to 100% VG or PG.

Make sure your battery is fully charged, as the charge/power in the battery drops so will the vapor.
 

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As far as I have been able to figure out, both juice and atty / carto matters. So does the battery.

Your best bet, if it's vapor you're after, is to try a juice with a higher amount of VG. Just be aware that you might still not be fully satisfied with that solution. VG produces a much thicker vapor but less TH than PG. That's the general rule. You win some and your lose some. Adding some PGA to the juice does give a stronger TH but I tried it and can't recommend it. It takes away a lot of the flavor and produces a burnt taste even on newly filled cartos. Less vapor too, so it's probably not for you.

To compensate for the lack of TH when adding VG to the mix you could switch to LR or dual coil cartos. That should leave you fully satisfied. Just make sure your battery can withstand the added current drain. Smaller (< 380 mAh) batteries are not recommended for LR cartos by most suppliers and might void your warranty. Batteries with higher/variable voltage (mods) will also produce more vapor and more TH, even with standard attys/cartos.

Disclaimer: I'm no expert. I just started vaping a couple of weeks ago and I'm still learning. You should get at least one second opinion, preferably from a more experienced vaper, before you go ahead and purchase more stuff.

EDIT: Vapor eyes er beat me to it... :)
 
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Modern Vapor sidesho is not a strong ecig. So don't expect a lot of vapor.

In addition you want juices with some VG in them

For atomizer and cartridge I recommend PG w/ 20-50% VG or you could try higher VG but VG also dulls flavor and TH

For cartomizers I recommend PG with 10-20% VG though 30% will work

But you will never get the amount of vapor big-fat-ecig-mod + LR atomizer reviewers get on Youtube (and they also are often using 100% VG juices when they blow those room-filling plumes of vapor)
 
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I would possibly consider a better PV that will be able to give you what your looking for. Id get a 3.7V PV like a Riva or an
E-Power. I have an E-Power and love it. Its like the Riva but uses non-proprietary batteries and everything is replaceable so it keeps costs down. E-Power batts cost $4 compared to Riva/eGo batts that cost $14-20. These will give you a MUCH longer battery life and an overall better vape and will also allow you to use a variety of attys/cartos like low resistance cartos which will give you a warmer vape. Maybe something to consider for the future.

Also I just checked their website and those things are pretty dang expensive. You can get a much better PV that will last a lot longer for the same price if not cheaper depending on what kit you got.

oh and dont feel bad for making a not so great first purchase. Thats part of the learning curve. My first was a kit that cost almost $100 and in all reality wasnt really worth more than $15. :facepalm:
 

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Get more power, I got my prodigy v3.1 running 6v with a high rest carto boges and Omg (not 0 mg)vapor heaven from even my juice that had 20%vg but I would up your e juice 50/50 or 60/40 pg vg. I also have 3.7v battery w my prodigy and at 3.7 with a lr or even standard I get better vapor. Also depends on the draw- sometime taking that slow draw brings out that vapor since your letting your liquid work.
 

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A beginner doesn't need 6v, at least 90-95% of beginners don't need it and I think a majority of vapers don't need it ever. Try some different juices. Try both the cartridges and the cartomizers (I think they offer both for that model). You are pretty much stuck with what Modern Vapor offers hardware-wise because their models are proprietary. Try some 80PG/20VG juices in cartomizers, any PG/VG in cartridge with atomizer. But if it's an automatic battery then you will rarely get the best drag possible out of it. But it's certainly fine for starting unless you are a heavy or full-strength smoker - then it may not be sufficient.

By the end of the first month most people buy a different model and when you do, I recommend something manual and compatible with multiple shops selling parts, adapters for other models, etc.
 
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