Questions? Ask GP!

[dirt2suck]

I personally have not read enough on the AEMSA as of yet to understand the importance of it beyond
controlling companies that do not already know what they are doing.

Experienced companies already have "self-regulation" in place with safe practices and ingredients.

I think it is great that there is someone that can control the "I never used an ecig before but I know I can mix liquid
and I like tasting good stuff and I think I can sell this stuff and make money, but again I never even used an ecig, but it sounds easy"
type of person.

I do not know of the costs, and the standards that they set. So I cannot judge too much on what they seem
to want to accomplish other than a money making business. I have to read further.

Even if They claim to overlook the manufacturer and their practices, I am fully sure that
there could be a mishap or a standard not followed, whether the manufacturer is or is not a member of such org.

GP does list the common name ingredients on the bottles of the GP eliquid.
If the federal or state government set standards, then of course we all would have to follow to comply.

Again, I have not read fully into this yet, since it is actually still in the works and could
not possibly make anything safer by just joining and paying dues.
I still have to educate myself on what it accomplishes.

 

[hittman]

From what I understand of it, they are trying to start an organization that will dictate certain safety standards for eliquid makers/mixers. Vendors that join will get their stamp of approval. However, to me the costs involved in being a member seem rather extreme to me. I think there was an application fee that is non refundable and then the membership was like four or five hundred a month. I don't think that most medium and small vendors could afford something like that.

 

[thomas_mikel]

From what I understand of it, they are trying to start an organization that will dictate certain safety standards for eliquid makers/mixers. Vendors that join will get their stamp of approval. However, to me the costs involved in being a member seem rather extreme to me. I think there was an application fee that is non refundable and then the membership was like four or five hundred a month. I don't think that most medium and small vendors could afford something like that.

Yep, sounds an awful lot like a good ol' boy network designed to eliminate competition.

 

[dirt2suck]

If those prices are anywhere near the actual, then it may be possible that there is classes,
and also inspectors coming to your facility.

Routine inspections by qualified personal could have high operating costs for the assoc. but
if nothing like that is happening, then I am not seeing the point.

 

[dingo1799]

any up and coming sales to know about before i order? oops.... too late. need to make JOOSE!!!!!!

 

[jjcordone]

Hi Rob: I'm looking at the GP eCo-T Style 650mah Spare Batteries that you have on special.
There's a statement that they run at 4v.

Are these regulated to run at 4v until their charge is depleted or are they unregulated so they start at 4v off the charger, but eventually drop to 3.4v as their charge is depleted?

I'm using a twist that I like, but I hate the extra length. I usually have my twist set at 4v so the output stays consistent till depleted.
I'd love to switch to a shorter battery, even without VV, if it would operate as I use the twist.

Thanks!

 

[Princessdee]

Thanks for asking, jjcordone. I was looking at these and wondering the same thing.

 

[dirt2suck]

I never even thought to test that out.

BUT, I think they would be 4 volts, and maybe towards the last hour or less might drift down.
I sometimes notice exactly when my battery is going to die...the last few hits I know something is wrong
and them get the evil blinking!

If you needed a 100% answer, I will have to fully test one tomorrow.

 

[jjcordone]

Thanks for the reply. I had been using the eGo upgrade batteries and I switched because the the unregulated operation was so unpredictable. They come off the charger at 4.2v and worked their way downward to 3.4v. If you saw statements like true 4.0v operation from your supplier, then these GP eCo-T Style 650mah Spare Batteries might be regulated to run at a consistent 4v.
It appears the manufacturers are going this way, I recently bought a pair of mini eGo's that had the statement that they were true 3.7v operation and they are regulated. If these are regulated at 4.0v they'll be fantastic. It will be the same as setting a twist at 4.0v BUT, I won't have to carry around an ecig that is as long as a club anymore The way you've described it it sure sounds like its what I'm after.
I'll buy a couple and give them a try, your price is excellent and everyone on the ECF knows your among the best with your shipping times and customer service. One last question on them. Are the black ones a rubberized finish or smooth?
Thanks again!

 

[dirt2suck]

All colors are rubberized, except the SS.

I have been testing, and unfortunately, I am getting a lithium standard type with it drifting down.
I will run a few cycles to see exactly how they perform.

 

[Princessdee]

It'll do. Still starting out much better than a standard eGo type.

I had to grab a couple of pink ones. I'll just tweak the resistance of whatever I use on it as it falls (if it falls. When it falls. Whatever).

My little GP eCo-U CE2 MINI Kit starts at 3.9 and takes 2 good hours to fall to 3.8

I dunno where it goes from there, I only use it at the barn, cleaning, riding. And driving. (I don't get out much. 2 hours is the most I've used it between charges)

I love it very much, and I'm looking forward to adding these to my rotation.

 

[jjcordone]

Thanks for taking the time to test them. I'm still going to pull the trigger on a couple of them.
Even if they operate unregulated and drift downward, you've got them at a great price and I'll bet they'll perform well enough to make me happy

 

[~Sue~Feb2012]

Hi Rob: I'm looking at the GP eCo-T Style 650mah Spare Batteries that you have on special.
There's a statement that they run at 4v.

Are these regulated to run at 4v until their charge is depleted or are they unregulated so they start at 4v off the charger, but eventually drop to 3.4v as their charge is depleted?

I'm using a twist that I like, but I hate the extra length. I usually have my twist set at 4v so the output stays consistent till depleted.
I'd love to switch to a shorter battery, even without VV, if it would operate as I use the twist.

Thanks!

Thanks for asking, jjcordone. I was looking at these and wondering the same thing.

Thanks for the reply. I had been using the eGo upgrade batteries and I switched because the the unregulated operation was so unpredictable. They come off the charger at 4.2v and worked their way downward to 3.4v. If you saw statements like true 4.0v operation from your supplier, then these GP eCo-T Style 650mah Spare Batteries might be regulated to run at a consistent 4v.
It appears the manufacturers are going this way, I recently bought a pair of mini eGo's that had the statement that they were true 3.7v operation and they are regulated. If these are regulated at 4.0v they'll be fantastic. It will be the same as setting a twist at 4.0v BUT, I won't have to carry around an ecig that is as long as a club anymore The way you've described it it sure sounds like its what I'm after.
I'll buy a couple and give them a try, your price is excellent and everyone on the ECF knows your among the best with your shipping times and customer service. One last question on them. Are the black ones a rubberized finish or smooth?
Thanks again!

I had these same thoughts as soon as I got that newsletter and was checking these out!!!!! I'd love a small ego batt that with the higher volt because I also set my twists around 4.0 most of the time but they are quite long to carry around in my pocket etc.
Can't wait to try these new little ones and great price too! Thanks!

 

[mikegetz]

hey rob - on a completely unrelated note -

on the other forum i frequent, someone was asking about your vg based DK juices. specifically the DK Tab - he was wondering if you were mixing this from concentrated flavor or if you were getting premix straight from DK ...

OK so I got some vg dk tab from good prophets and was wondering if anyone knows if this is the same stuff straight from china or if they mix it themselves from a concentrate.....I've tried several other dk tabs from vendors and DIY mixes and nothing compares to this stuff I got from good prophets I'll probably have to order more from them...its like spice/peppery on inhale and sweet buttery on exhale and basically unlike other dk tabs I've tried...people may hate on dekang but this juice is very good imo...

 

[dirt2suck]

The DK is premixed from DK.
I do not mix DK or Joye.

I have thought about the concentrate and mixing it in house, to satisfy lower costs, in which it
could be lower cost to you, but I dont want to mess with what they have perfected.

GP is going to go thru a big change here soon, and you will see prices start to fall for many items.


ohhh, I am getting testing on the GP batts, and seeing that they must be regulated to 4 volts
Once they dip below that, the voltage will drop, but it does take a while.

 

[~Sue~Feb2012]

Hey Rob, quick question on the Bully DIY atomizer that I just received. Since this will be my first attempt at any kind of DIY atty I just want to clarify the parts I'll need to have on hand. I'm going to place another order and should probably get the nichrome wire and the fiberglass wick (since that's on the "related items" link under the description of the DIY Bully atty.) I don't see any other parts such as a new spike, should I ever need one? Is the wick supposed to remain attached or should it be cut from the coil part? I know the Bully came "ready to go" so I tried it immediately and took it apart to see what I'll need, and noticed that the wick up through the spike is all one length and runs right through where the coil is attached to the screws. So when I have to rebuild it, I'm guessing I should do it exactly as it appears to be coming from the factory?
Just wondering because when I take apart a regular Ego-T type A atomizer, the spike comes out with the wick inside, and the coil below is a totally separate entity. Where this new Bully DIY atty has the wick and coil all -in- one.

 

[dirt2suck]

There is quite a few different ways you can build it.
The wick can go thru the coil, or is can just go down and touch.
Because of the dynamics, you may also see different results with a two wick system.

A small piece of stainless steel mesh could also benefit the wicking action.
This could be wrapped around the fiberglass wick and pushed thru the spike.

The spare spikes could be prefabbed your wick set up to accommodate faster change outs.
Not sure if any extra would be needed, unless you lose one due to their small size.

Fiberglass wick, nichrome wire, carts, and possibly spike would be all the spares.

 

[~Sue~Feb2012]

Thanks for responding. I'll make sure I order each of those parts. Wrapping mesh around the wick sounds like an idea. Yeah spare prefabbed spikes ready to go sounds great. (That's the problems with my current regular Ego-T atomizers, the spike wick gets burnt and I never can get rid of the burnt taste, so I can see that a replaceable spike with wick would be the way to go. I wonder if there's any videos of anyone doing the mesh wick wrap thing?

 

[dirt2suck]

I am sure there is a lot of videos on DIY atomizer building.

But I think that pre oxidizing the mesh (after cutting) and then wrapping would be easier,
since it would be more rigid and stable.

 

[MrPicC]

Hey good afternoon, I'm wondering why prices ARE SO LOW!!!
Edit. Thanks for having such an awesome SALE! I FOUND OUT what I needed to elsewhere..