Questions for the experienced

[Anthony Ratcliffe]

Hey guys,

I recently picked up a SKYCIG and im enjoying but i'm a bit worried about quitting full time. The e cig seems to make me cough more, is this common for a few weeks? also how many puffs should I be taking I usally smoke 14 silk cuts a day. Atm i'm using the regular carts before i move to the lights as I ordered the wrong ones?

One last thing, i'm trying new flavours, if i want to try a new one is it ok to cap it half full and stick a new one in and go back to it?

 

[Flyer]

Welcome Anthony. There shouldn't be any problem with putting a used cartridge aside and picking up later. juice comes in a lot of mixes (PG/VG). Some like pure PG, pure VG, some like a mix of the two (70% PG, 30 VG, etc). Some have sensitivities to PG as it can be a little harsh and want a mix with some VG. They say VG enhances vapor but can stunt flavor. Any rate, these are the basics and I'm no juice expert, but many here are and I'm sure they can help you dial in what you need.

 

[Anthony Ratcliffe]

Just looked at some details on there site, apparently it's 12mg and lights are 6mg, not sure whats in them tho still looking

***Just found it

What ingredients are in SKYCIG cartridges?

SKYCIG cartridges contain nicotine, propylene glycol (a water-based ingredient found in many health products, medicines, foods and drinks), as well as common natural and artificial flavourings.

 

[Flyer]

Look for the PG/VG content in addition to the nic.

 

[buffalo]

I'm no expert but in my whole 2 weeks vaping i have found that a 50-50 blend of pg/vg takes the cough away for me and the flavor is still good,i also was coughing more at first which had me kinda worried since i smoked 2 packs a day of reds but once i tweaked the blend the cough has pretty much gone away. Hope that helps a bit.

 

[sailorman]

Sounds like they're using 100% PG. That'll account for the harshness. 6mg. is pretty low for a 1/2-1 pack a day smoker. The 12mg is probably more along the lines of what you need. Even 18mg wouldn't hurt for starters. You can always lower it later on. When you're getting over analogs, you want to err on the high side.

You should see if they have blank cartomizers available. You need to find some 12-18mg juice with some VG in it. If they don't have blank cartomizers, you should find out what connection they use on the battery. If it's something standard, you can buy cartomizers somewhere else and fill them with juice from somewhere else. You'll save a lot of money and get the vape you need.

Or, you can cut your losses and get a decent e-cig with a standardized thread and start over from scratch. I know it's a drag to do it that way, but it'll probably be worth it in the long run. You can get a very good e-cig that won't cost you an arm and a leg to maintain for $40-60.

 

[sailorman]

BTW, the other thing that might be contributing to your cough is your technique. You don't hit an e-cig like you would a cigarette. You take a long, slow pull and hold it in your mouth. About a 5-10 second drag. Then you inhale slowly through your mouth and nose at the same time. You don't need to inhale deeply. Most of the nicotine is absorbed in your mouth and sinus cavities. Strictly speaking, you don't need to inhale at all. you can vape like you're smoking a cigar or pipe. The longer you hold the vapor in your mouth, the cooler it will be and that will help with the harshness.

 

[Anthony Ratcliffe]

ah that answers alot of questions! thanks guys, I was thinking of trying to find blank carts as there flavours are limited. I'm not sure what a standardised thread is for ecigs. The main thing I got the ecig for, is the fact its the same size and weight as a real cig. Any one know how i can find out the thread size and where best to get liquids and carts in the uk?

 

[markfm]

Get to 5 posts, then check in on the UK section here. UK Forum

Pretty much "standard connector" would mean something called KR808D-1, 901, or 510. The "808" and 901 are the same connector pretty much, just that the 808 has slots in the side of the connector for airflow, while a true 901 doesn't. The 510 is the most popular fitting now, and I believe has better availability in Europe generally, though I am personally a fan of the 808/901 connector (less fiddle factor for me).

In cig sized PV, the 808 kits are generally better than the equivalent 510 kits in terms of power, both mAh (which equates to run time) and output voltage (which equates to warmth, vapor).

Key for new people is learning to drink a lot of water. The carrier in eliquid (PG or VG) is a humectant, a fancy word meaning it sucks the water out of you -- the vapor you see on exhale is mainly water. Try a sip before a puff, and one after. A bit of hoarseness/harshness is very common for newer people, part of it learning to drink water and part of it just developing effective technique for inhaling, though finding an eliquid with a bit of VG can help.

Good luck!

 

[Anthony Ratcliffe]

If i uploaded a picture would anyone be able to tell me what kinda cart it is or are they very similar?

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

According to folks on AAE-C UK the Sky-cig does have a 510 thread - Credit to Chrissie
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/302227-skycig.html
ALL ABOUT E-CIGARETTES UK - Amazing Discount on SkyCigs
and you can buy them here:
Boge 510 Standard Resistance (5) £5.99 - Vaping Spares - Cartomisers Electronic Cigarettes | Vaping Devices | Accessories | E-Liquid
Good Luck.

Edit: even if they weren't 510 you could buy an adapter in "most" circumstances.

ah that answers alot of questions! thanks guys, I was thinking of trying to find blank carts as there flavours are limited. I'm not sure what a standardised thread is for ecigs. The main thing I got the ecig for, is the fact its the same size and weight as a real cig. Any one know how i can find out the thread size and where best to get liquids and carts in the uk?

 

[markfm]

One quick note -- if it is a cig-sized PV, you should probably stay with 2.5 ohm or higher resistance cartomizers. 2 ohm, and especially under 2 ohm, cartomizers put too much stress on smaller batteries.

 

[Mroutlaw]

If you just quit smoking or have seriously cut back, your body will begin to cough up all the junk that you have smoked. If it is a dry cough from the throat rather than the lungs, then it is probably the throat hit from the PG. You can get this by adding some VG to your juice.

If you were smoking 14 analogs a day, you should be going through about to take three cartos a day. On average, a carto equals about 6-8 analogs in puffs. That is not the nicotine level. The average analog has 1 to 2 mg of absorbed nicotine. So if you were smoking 14 cigarettes a day, you were taking in at least 14 mg of nicotine. When a juice says it has 12 mg of nicotine that is how much is in 1 mL, not how much you absorb. Most PAD smokers start with 2-3 cartos a day of 18-24mg nic. If you are not getting lightheaded or headaches, you are not taking in too much nic.

Yes you can store half used cartos. Most of us put a couple of extra drops in the next time we use it.

 

[Anthony Ratcliffe]

Boge 510 Low Resistance (5) £5.99 - Vaping Spares - Cartomisers Electronic Cigarettes | Vaping Devices | Accessories | E-Liquid

so i'd probably need some of these 2omhs ones then?

what is a drip tip so i need one, i want it to look like im smoking a real ciggy as much as possible to avoid people asking questions all the time.?

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

For the PV you are using standard resistance would be better. Low res will drain your batt fast and may damage it.
Boge 510 Standard Resistance (5) £5.99 - Vaping Spares - Cartomisers Electronic Cigarettes | Vaping Devices | Accessories | E-Liquid

Boge 510 Low Resistance (5) £5.99 - Vaping Spares - Cartomisers Electronic Cigarettes | Vaping Devices | Accessories | E-Liquid

so i'd probably need some of these 2omhs ones then?

what is a drip tip so i need one, i want it to look like im smoking a real ciggy as much as possible to avoid people asking questions all the time.?

 

[DaveP]

People know that you aren't smoking. Even a good cig look alike ecig doesn't look like a paper tube and a filter. You can't fool them. They won't smell smoke and that in itself is a give away.

If you vape something that doesn't look like a cigarette, people will ask what it is and give you an opportunity to explain it to them. You can also vape places where others can't smoke. If it looks like a cigarette, people will embarrass you by telling you that you can't smoke in that spot. If it's obviously not a cigarette, they won't scold you and send you packing. They will usually just look and walk on by or ask you what that thing is. That's your opening to educate one more person about ecigs.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

drip tip is really not needed unless you're getting juice spurts in your mouth and will extend the length of your PV by 3/4".

 

[Anthony Ratcliffe]

Ah i see, I also like the length and feel of my current ecig so i'd like to stay similar. I had a few disposable ones and they were all top heavy and didnt feel good to vape with. Just vaped on my cart atm and its starting to taste a bit odd (burnt) is this cart on its way out do you think not changed one yet? I'm currently on about 10 puffs which seems ok for me atm. Quick question as i dont have any to hand but in terms of those carts is the size roughly that of a ciggy filter, Another quick thing i noticed if i take the smoking top of my current cart thats empty and i refill it?

 

[markfm]

Yes, a standard length cartomizer (carto), which combines an atomizer and cartridge (that holds the eliquid) is about the length of a cig filter. An XL carto is noticeably longer, and some of them get quite large.

You can indeed refill cartomizers, much more economical. Many of the after-market ones have soft rubber mouth tips that pop out easily with a paperclip, designed for easy refill, or you can use what is called the condom method to refill (google condom refill here on ECF, many posts on it). If you stay with the same flavor, or one close to it, you can keep topping off a carto, often get a good 20 ml of eliquid total through one before you need to toss it or try to clean it.

If the mouth tip piece pops out, and when you look in you see some poly filler around a central air tube, you can top fill. Take the carto off the battery, hold it at an angle, and squirt a bit of eliquid from a bottle onto the filler. Let it soak in, rotate the carto a bit, repeat. Give it some time for the liquid to soak in. Put the mouth tp back on, then blow through the carto, with a tissue held over the battery end. Wipe the connector down with a tissue, put it back on the battery, and you're good to go.

 

[SpyderBite]

I'm no expert but in my whole 2 weeks vaping i have found that a 50-50 blend of pg/vg takes the cough away for me and the flavor is still good

Yup. Its different for everybody. But, I found a 60/40 blend with 24mg nic was my magic elixir. No cough, good TH and lots of flavor.