Questions: HV (4-6v) vs VV vs 3.7v ???

[Secti0n31]

Hey guys and gals. I've been using an eGo for the last 3 months or so, and I'm actually pretty happy with it, but I'd like to step up to a mod that uses replaceable protected batteries (for longer battery life AND longer shelf life). My problem is that I can't decide if I want to stick with something in a voltage closer to the eGo at 3.7, or make the jump to a 5v or VV device.

Here are a few things to consider:

1. I'm very happy with the eGo, 2.8ohm CE2's and LR 510 attys. I don't "need" any more power or vapor, and I already have plenty of LR attys.
2. I'm an avid Ce2 user and I've heard nothing but bad things mixing ce2's and 5v PV's. Ce2's are the only carto's I'm happy with because no others seem to wick my 60pg/40vg juices all that well, and I do need to use cartos at work and on the road.
3. I am really leary about spending $100+ on a 3.7v PV, despite the increased battery life, easily replaceable batteries and longer lasting PV casing (I could buy 2 riva kits for that much, so that makes me kinda lean towards VV or 5v)
4. I'm not interested in a box mod or bottom feeder. If I really want a feeder I think I'll shell out for a vapemate, but I'm cool with dripping and ce2's. (and the storm tank, and the giantomizers)

What I'm looking at are: the VV Joker with the pulse circuitry, and the GLV-2, or Glv2 superMini.

What I'd like to know:

Is there a voltage threshold where the 2.8 or 3.2 ce2's start burning? I'm under the impression it's around 4.5v.

If I'm happy with the 3.2-3.4v ego, is 4-5v really going to be that much better?

Does the VV Joker cap at 5v or does it go up to 6v?

What's the difference in battery life between 3.7 and 5v?

At what voltage do LR attys get toasted and become unusable?

I know mileage varies, but how long to mods like the GLV and joker last as a unit? Not counting the batteries themselves. (switches, circuits, resistors, connections)?

If anyone has another PV to recommend with a 510 connection killer battery life and decent looks (I don't want something like the copper mod that looks like a freakin pipe bomb) Feel free to post a link. Maybe even something that works as a true passthrough that I can use with a USB port.

Thanks for your help ladies and gentlemen, Look forward to your responses.

 

[CBB]

A 3Ω on 5v is very hot and borders burning my juice but I really like 3Ω at 4.3-4.5v

 

[JD1]

I just ordered the e-power and a couple of extra duel coils from here: E-Power From Smok Tech and HECS , using ecf15 as discount code (sale ends tonight I think).

I started with the Joye 510 and liked it, moved to the Joye eGo and I'm very satisfied with it. I started to order another but changed my mind to the e-power just to try something different. I mostly drip into a dewicked 2.4 ohm atty, but I also use and like carts. The only cartos I can use is the 2.8 ohm E2s as I tend to singe the others and I can't stand them if there's the least hint of charcoal added to the vape.

Reports on the duel coil have been pretty positive with most reporting they resist singing very well. There is a space between the two coils, so than either spot doesn't get super hot but you get vapor from both spots. That's why I decided to try them.

I can't answer most of your questions but I can tell you that anything above 3.7v with the E2s gets real hot real quick. Of course, lots of folks like that but for those of us that like cooler vapor with good flavor and smooth th it's just too much. If I'm using my 5V PT with the E2s, I can only stay on the button about two seconds on a five second draw. On the eGo, I can pretty much stay on the button full time.

Anyways, you asked for some other considerations and I gave you one. Vape on.

 

[mwa102464]

4.6-5v is an extremely nice vape, and 6v is even better (just my opinion), A lot of people like the LR stuff but I'm an HV guy. It all comes down to having the right set up and Atty's. My philosophy is why simulate HV with LR when you can have the real deal. Ikenvape HV-510 Atty's are clearly the front runner for 6v HV vaping right now and I have them set up on about 6 different Mods. You say your satisfied with your LR but have you used a really good set up with HV ? is the question. Before you buy you may want to try something like a Box mod with this 6V set up, when I first started vaping there wasn't really Box mods out yet or if there was there weren't any good ones and I always said the same thing you are, (I don't want a dam Boxmod) they look silly I like my reg looking ecig,) Hahahah ya right, well now its pretty much all I use accept for once in a while its a nice change to run a small little e-cig, but that's about it.

You should try a nice Mod like a Reo Grand or a VV Ali or VV Monkeybox, these Mods are far superior and house everything you will ever need inside of them( no lugging around all the stuff you are now ! it's all self contained, grab your Mod and roll !!! ) and once you try one I would bet you may really enjoy it, especially with 2 x AW 3.2V LiFePO4's and a Iken HV-510 sitting on top of the unit. VV also has it's advantages to dial in the Atty to the perfect vape also most juices taste better at an array of different voltages and this way you have the ability to run Atty's from all different ohms and find the exact match up for your juice that gives you the ultimate vape ! Take your time before you just go buy a new unit and spend your money, if you have a friend that can lend you a VV Mod or even something like a Reo or any juice fed Box mod and you could use it for a couple of days I would highly recommend you do this. Most people do and say exactly what your saying but sooner or later move up to one of the superior Mods and end up wasting money and buying quite a few little e-cigs before getting there ultimate vape set up, it's also good to have a few different ones so you can flip mods and have different juice loaded up in a couple of them. I usually vape between 4-8 different flavors of juice a day, but im not flipping juices or switching Atty's but just grabbing a different feeder Mod already set up with that different flavor loaded up already in it Take your time with this decision before you just pull the trigger, you will be glad you did and see if you cant try a couple of different set ups before you just buy !
Good luck on your search !!!

 

[Credo]

I looked at the Joker/Pearl/Turbo, Buzz, and Infinity really hard as they seemed like very reasonably priced kits to try out...also pretty light packages. The battery types in those kind of bugged me tho'....but I liked the claims of the PULSE technology on the Joker.

I finally decided to go for a ProVari because of the bigger single battery type...I could also get a less expensive no regulated Short Stack or something as a backup (uses same battery).

After all that, I settled on a Darwin, as it seems like a good first mod. You dial in the wattage that you want...and it automaically sets itself up...measuring the atty and applying the right voltage to get you there.

While a bit pricy at $230, it does come with one heck of a battery built in to it. It should go up to 3 years problem free. Just plug the unit in and let it charge every couple of days. No boxes of cells or chargers to mess with. 2year warranty on the unit, 1 year on the battery.

I'm looking forward to getting it come Monday It'll be my first venture into VV/HV vaping. Even if I set it at 4v and forget it...I figure the battery will pay for itself pretty quickly.

 

[Secti0n31]

Oh I'm absolutely gonna take my time and think about it because it'd mean new attys, new PV and a whole new method of thinking. I'm not going to get a box mod, but I will get SOMEthing. I wonder how far down in voltage the AV joker goes. It's about $20 more expensive than the GLV2, but has twice the battery capacity, and is pretty sleek and will fit a giantomizer. I just like to switch flavors, so its very easy to carry 5 ce2's in my ego case, rather than a pocket full of 3ml bottles. Its worth considering, but It'd take some convincing for me to get a bottom feeder over a regular mod.

maybe if they made VV reo's I'd be more into it than I am interested in a monkeybox because I just don't like the woody look. noone that I know even vapes anything more potent than an eGo, so there's no hope in borrowing a mod.

I've heard that the 5v GLV2 is versatile enough to use ce2's and LR attys but I don't know if I buy it. I suppose we'll see. I know there are SO many people here that love their 5v mods, but an equal number of 3.7 or less users. even amongst very experienced vapers.

 

[Credo]

I'm into the CE2 as well, for the same reasons...
I don't drip very often.

 

[hairball]

The Buzz and the ProVari are the 2 that top my list. I have 4 Buzz's and hubby has 2 ProVari's.

As far as the Joker, I watched alot of videos and didn't order based on the videos. Their warranty stinks so do their switches. If you have to have one repaired out of warranty, be prepared to pay at least half of the purchase price just for the repair. That was enough to make me close the website and not order.

 

[Gracchus Grey]

The madvapes $35 VV box runs from 0-7 volts. Don't overthink it. It's an awesome little box, and you can use all of your existing LR equipment with it, unlike many of the more limited VV mods

 

[JudgeVape]

I'll tell you what I use and am very happy with.

For home and when I will be someplace vaping a lot, I use a VV (Provari in my case). It's nice to be able to play around with various combinations and tweak the voltage for juices that might be more delicate. 98% of the time I am dripping on this device.

For work or driving or running errands, it's a 5V box mod with cartomizers (Big Kazoo running 3.0 ohm Boges in my case). It is very small, very pocket friendly and light and I don't have to worry about leaking or constant dripping and it hits like a champ. Plastic 5V box mods are also dirt cheap ($30-35).

 

[Nomoreash]

I'd also recommend the Madvapes VV box as an introduction to VV. It's the best or prettiest thing going but it's priced right and will introduce you to HV, LV or anywhere in between. Plus you won't go spending a bunch trying to mach the atty to your fixed batteries trying to find your sweet spot. Once you get use to VV it's hard to go back, I wouldn't. When you want to move up from that you can use it as a backup without a lot if initial investment.

 

[MickeyRat]

Really, if what you want is to go to an eGo with a generic battery then, the e-power is the way to go and it's probably your cheapest option. They have them at madvapes. They also sell the switches separately. So, there's not much that you can have a problem with that can't be fixed cheaply.

I actually have a madvapes VV box mod on order now to give VV a try. However, I've seen some posts that indicate problems with components in them having a heat problem in the modders forum. So, I wouldn't say this is a permanent solution.

 

[Stosh]

My favorite for CE2s and smoke tank is Madvapes Roughstack V2, (I spent so much time
deciding I unded up with the rev 2) with the extended cup you can go 3.7v 18650 or
2 3v for 6V vaping. It's inexpensive, rugged and works well with my favorite cartos and attys.

 

[longworthb]

The difference between a ego and a mod that uses a 18650 or 14500 is trememndous imo. I went from a riva to a silverbullet and i get alot better th and vapor because the ego is actualy 3.2ish volts and a fresh charged 18650 is 4.2 but drops to steady off around 3.7. If ur happy with ur ego go with a true 3.7volt mod and ull be very happy

 

[Credo]

Don't forget...there is a $30 circut called "Terminator" you can buy that is built into an atty case which will turn a regular big battery mod into VV.
The terminator voltage adapter

 

[Secti0n31]

the VV mod from MadVapes looks cool, and it's a very reasonable price, but for some reason I'm really still gravitating towards 3.7. I think it'd be the most versatile voltage and I can always just get a cheap 5v PT from madvapes if I want to drip at 5v. I really want that GLV-2 so I think I'll just get the supermini and a ton of batteries, regular 510 attys and LR attys, and I'll be able to use it with my ce2 cartos. I did send an email to the vaprlive people so I'll wait to hear back from them.