Radio ad for volunteers for CDC study...anyone else hear this????

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I am in North Carolina and yesterday was listening to a pop/top 40 station and a commercial came on. It was one of those "if you are interested in participating in a study" type commercials, only it was really bothering hearing the criteria for participants.

Basically it asked for volunteers, from 6th to 12th grade!!!!!!!!!!!! to participate in a survey for the CDC. The test was simply a one hour questionnaire that could be filled out at their Raleigh office, OR IN YOUR HOME! if you so chose...anotherwords they would come to you to fill it out. Here's the disturbing part. Anyone under 18 that has vaped and/or smoked (but vaping HAD to be a part of it) would receive a $50 gift card at the completion of the study. Anyone under 18 needed parental permission AND the parent would ALSO receive a $50 gift card too!!!!!

Now, how many parents are gonna coerce their kids to participate just to get (2) gift cards??? And, what kind of questioning is the CDC gonna want to ask?? I got a creepy feeling just listening to the ad. I bet they want to correlate the connection between vaping early and smoking, to make it truly bad "for the kids"!!!!

This is really getting disturbing, the lengths they are going to to prove their point. This is the CDC, wth, why are they sticking their noses in this? Anyone else hear this ad in NC or anywhere else???? Hopefully it was an isolated incident, but I kinda doubt it.
 

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Thanks. I've bookmarked this thread for future reference. Talk about poisoning the sample.

It could have been worse. They could have asked for volunteers and only paid those that only vaped or vaped then picked up smoking. That would be the approach at UCSF.
 

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My biggest "wonder" is why in the heck focus on 6th thru 12th graders when its not even supposed to be sold to them??? If, big IF, the CDC was "genuinely" interested in health.safety or whatever, why not focus on the group actually using pv's rather than kids that sneak around to get theirs and abuse them (or whatever)

And really, unless there was a reported case of Ebola, or some other class 5 disease spreader, what is their involvement with all this???
 

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My biggest "wonder" is why in the heck focus on 6th thru 12th graders when its not even supposed to be sold to them??? If, big IF, the CDC was "genuinely" interested in health.safety or whatever, why not focus on the group actually using pv's rather than kids that sneak around to get theirs and abuse them (or whatever)

And really, unless there was a reported case of Ebola, or some other class 5 disease spreader, what is their involvement with all this???

My guess is they're trying to establish the reasons that the FDA plans to use in defense of their deemed regulation.
 

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Yeah, but just by the hypothesis of the study, you can tell the CDC is looking for negative information. They aren't going to ask the kids "so, did vaping help you to kick your cigarette habit?"....cause legally, they aren't supposed to be smoking either...so no matter how the questions are worded, it's going to address the illegality of smoking/vaping underage, right???

It matters NOT to me how long they've been vaping....or smoking, cause either way, they weren't supposed to be doing either....where are the responsiblilities of the parents here???? (I bet that WON"T be addressed, but wish it would--to the parents of the kids that have to give their permission for the study--did they give "permission" for the kids to vape or smoke, hummmm???)
 
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Yeah, but just by the hypothesis of the study, you can tell the CDC is looking for negative information. They aren't going to ask the kids "so, did vaping help you to kick your cigarette habit?"....cause legally, they aren't supposed to be smoking either...so no matter how the questions are worded, it's going to address the illegality of smoking/vaping underage, right???

It matters NOT to me how long they've been vaping....or smoking, cause either way, they weren't supposed to be doing either....where are the responsiblilities of the parents here???? (I bet that WON"T be addressed, but wish it would--to the parents of the kids that have to give their permission for the study--did they give "permission" for the kids to vape or smoke, hummmm???)

Actually, they could get some good information out of this study if they were looking to understand the environment. To deny that kids smoke is ludicrous. It's been going on since cigarettes started being marketed. Whether they're hitting their parents packs or getting older kids to buy for them.
 

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I am in North Carolina and yesterday was listening to a pop/top 40 station and a commercial came on. It was one of those "if you are interested in participating in a study" type commercials, only it was really bothering hearing the criteria for participants.

Basically it asked for volunteers, from 6th to 12th grade!!!!!!!!!!!! to participate in a survey for the CDC. The test was simply a one hour questionnaire that could be filled out at their Raleigh office, OR IN YOUR HOME! if you so chose...anotherwords they would come to you to fill it out. Here's the disturbing part. Anyone under 18 that has vaped and/or smoked (but vaping HAD to be a part of it) would receive a $50 gift card at the completion of the study. Anyone under 18 needed parental permission AND the parent would ALSO receive a $50 gift card too!!!!!

Now, how many parents are gonna coerce their kids to participate just to get (2) gift cards??? And, what kind of questioning is the CDC gonna want to ask?? I got a creepy feeling just listening to the ad. I bet they want to correlate the connection between vaping early and smoking, to make it truly bad "for the kids"!!!!

This is really getting disturbing, the lengths they are going to to prove their point. This is the CDC, wth, why are they sticking their noses in this? Anyone else hear this ad in NC or anywhere else???? Hopefully it was an isolated incident, but I kinda doubt it.

Well first off the CDC office on Smoking and Health is located in Georgia. So what this place is in NC handing out gift cards... no idea.

If anyone wants to see the survey and it's questions it's right here. It's not a secret mystery thing:
CDC - National Youth Tobacco Survey (NYTS) - Smoking & Tobacco Use

Do note that this survey and it's questions are not updated annually. Thus the last version of the questionnaire is dated 2012 and unless modified, is not scheduled to expire in it's current format until January 2015.

There are only four questions in the entire survey regarding e-cigarettes. And those for questions put e-cigarettes in the context of two brands: Ruyan and nJoy. One of which kiddos in this age group will never have even heard of. :facepalm:

Oh, and menthol cigarettes taste like mint - in case you didn't know that. :facepalm: :facepalm:

I'm far more concerned about this gift card thing and who is behind that offer.
 

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I don't know if this would help, but the radio station I heard this on was G105, a contemporary/top 40 station out of the Raleigh NC market.

The Raleigh market is located near Chapel Hill and Durham, homes of many hospitals/health centers, perhaps they are the ones running the survey, but I know I heard "CDC" as soliciting the survey!
 
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When OP first posted, I spent some time searching variants of "CDC survey OR CDC study," "tobacco," "e-cigarettes," "youth," and "gift card." Never did find the current study, but interestingly I did find any number of references where researchers and survey takers (CDC among them) would offer gift cards as an incentive for people to participate.

In light of this, I have to wonder at the accuracy of any of these studies/surveys, where the incentive to respond is monetary (i.e. selection is not random, which as I understand statistics is the only way results could be extrapolated to a population level).
 

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This sounds more like a focus group, I've personally been in several of those over the past 20 years and all paid a stipend to get the people they wanted to discuss different products. Makes me wonder while they mentioned CDC if it isn't one of the BT companies looking for info on possible future customers.

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