Random Ody flooding? I've got to be doing something wrong?

[subver]

Ody v2. Every so often, rarely, but it's happened a couple times now.. I will pick up my Ody and it will be completely flooded. I vape it, then I screw my mouthpiece down and close it... there's no doubt about the mouthpiece being closed.
Then when I go to vape again it will be completely flooded, to where I can't even pull through it.. I have to blow it out into a paper towel.

Any ideas why this happens? Is there anything I can do to prevent it?
Using 3.5mm wick if that matters... Most of the time it doesn't flood, even when it sits for 8-10 hours overnight..

Very strange..

 

[RiverNut]

I seldom get flooding but when I do it's because of high ambient temps which builds pressure in the tank. I vape thin liquid though.

 

[subver]

Hmm, there's not really much temperature change around me.. plus it's more cold than warm (winter in NY) - but it's probably about room temp most of the time.

It used to happen when I would refill the Ody and screw the cap back on with the top collar still tight.. I think it would force juice through, but now I unscrew the collar to put the cap back on and it works fine...

It just happened to me at work while the mouthpiece was fully closed... I just don't understand how it could happen.

 

[Bishopheals]

Subver you are experiencing something that happened to many of us that started to get on Odysseus or Penelope. It has to do with 5 things. You ready? you sitting?

1) the ceramic assembly is not screw down tight enough on base
2) The ceramic assembly ring is not screw down tight enough on base.
3) avoid pinching Negative Wire between base and ceramic assembly ring.
4) When you close juice control do not over tighten. if you tighten juice control then it can un fasten the assembly ring and juice will drip down to base and to collector tank.
5) make sure when you not vaping close juice control. left over night while open will flood it. If you need extra hand I be happy to show you on video chat skype or oovooo.

 

[subver]

Thanks bishop!
Can't be 1 or 2 as I thought that could be the problem, so I tightened the ceramic stuff up really tight, especially because it was coming loose every time I took the Ody apart.

Not sure what you mean by 3?

4) Hmm I also thought this, so I would check it out after flooding happened and the assembly ring would be fastened nice and tight.

and 5 I always close my juice control when not using..

So weird!! Everything is very tight and properly closed.

The flooding happens when the juice flow is closed completely, and randomly.

It's not like there is a leak and it's constantly flooding.. just once in a while it will be flooded suddenly, for no apparent reason (which I find the most strange)

This morning it was flooded after I had used it on my way to work and closed the juice control. I cleaned it out by blowing through the mouthpiece into a paper towel. It hasn't flooded since, but I haven't done anything different at all.

It happens very rarely, and I'm 100% certain it's not because the juice control is open or anything like that. It really has my mind boggled!

 

[Bishopheals]

Thanks bishop!
Can't be 1 or 2 as I thought that could be the problem, so I tightened the ceramic stuff up really tight, especially because it was coming loose every time I took the Ody apart.

Not sure what you mean by 3?

4) Hmm I also thought this, so I would check it out after flooding happened and the assembly ring would be fastened nice and tight.

and 5 I always close my juice control when not using..

So weird!! Everything is very tight and properly closed.

The flooding happens when the juice flow is closed completely, and randomly.

It's not like there is a leak and it's constantly flooding.. just once in a while it will be flooded suddenly, for no apparent reason (which I find the most strange)

This morning it was flooded after I had used it on my way to work and closed the juice control. I cleaned it out by blowing through the mouthpiece into a paper towel. It hasn't flooded since, but I haven't done anything different at all.

It happens very rarely, and I'm 100% certain it's not because the juice control is open or anything like that. It really has my mind boggled!

Number 4 is this see in this photo negative wire being pinched by ceramic assembly ring and base. this still causes small leak. make sure the two non resistance wires are going down in its own channels. Also apply some vaseline on oring by center pin and screw it down to base tighter. as well as control ring. then you will not have no leaks. when opening juice control please try and only open it by half a full turn. and vape it that way and close juice control leave device down and test it out if it leaks. if it doesn't then your set.

 

[subver]

Aren't you supposed to pinch the negative wire in the ring? I thought that's what it was for? Do you just cut the wire and let it sit in the channel, under the wick?

Still, though... I really don't have a slow leak or anything like that. It can sit for 12 hours and not leak.. just once in a while it's randomly flooded.. I don't know, maybe I didn't close the juice control all the way or something, but I'm 99% sure I did.

 

[Bishopheals]

you do same thing to negative wire as you do with positive. Positive wrap around center post. and screw nut tight yes... as for negative do same except don't let it go past the base of the channel. Keep it behind wick like positive.

I can draw you a map if it helps.

 

[subver]

you do same thing to negative wire as you do with positive. Positive wrap around center post. and screw nut tight yes... as for negative do same except don't let it go past the base of the channel. Keep it behind wick like positive.

I can draw you a map if it helps.

I understand. I actually just asked this question in another thread before I made this post.. I wasn't sure if just leaving the wire in the channel would give a good connection... so that's good to know! Thanks.

 

[Serpent67]

It's over wicking.

Exactly why alot of us went to the krinkle coil setup with no wick in the channels around a year ago with the original V1 Odysseus..

 

[subver]

It's over wicking.

Exactly why alot of us went to the krinkle coil setup with no wick in the channels around a year ago with the original V1 Odysseus..

How can it be over wicking with the juice control closed?

 

[Beco]

You have leaks because you put NR wire under the ring.
If you have v2 Ody just leave it inside the channel-you can make small loop with the NR wire to have better connection

 

[Bishopheals]

Your doing single coils yes so you will get good connection. If you doing duals then I use a different setup for good connections.

 

[Ariel_MX]

Also you could try this:

And:

- Ensure the wick is not too long on the ceramic channels (cut it before it reaches the positive pin o-ring), sometimes the wick ends, loose threads or frays could get trapped between the positive pin o-ring and the Odysseus base, preventing a good seal.

- Ensure the wick is full sitting in the top of the ceramic channels: sometimes there could be a little gap between the wick and the top of the ceramic channels, so liquid could pass through that little gaps, going inside the ceramic and then through the center pin. After you make the setup, inspect the sides of the ceramic channels (at the top, where the wick folds), when ther is a gap you can see through it, you can push down the wick with a toothpick or pin horizontally, over the wick / coil.

 

[Serpent67]

How can it be over wicking with the juice control closed?

Juice can still get in at the base seam where the locking ring meets and on top of the ring where the MP meets.

Those two points are not sealed and how juice gets to the wick in the side channels and eventually floods the ceramic inside portion

With the o-rings properly sealed on the Odysseus post, the air channel is the only place there could be leaks or flooding in the whole system.

 

[subver]

Thanks for the tips everyone

And serpent I see what you're saying.. the only thing that still seems weird to me is that it's not a constant leak.... it will be good for hours and hours, then suddenly flood, then be good for hours and hours.. it seems totally random and not like a constant leak. I would just assume that if there was a small area that was leaking, wouldn't it be flooding overnight?

I will definitely try the setup without pinching the wire, I've got some 3mm wick in the mail today so I wanted to rebuild a setup either way

 

[Ariel_MX]

Maybe the wick gets moved when adjusting the liquid flow, opening a little gap between the wick and the ceramic?

 

[subver]

yeah maybe! I'm using 3.5mm and sometimes the wick frays a little, so maybe the frays are getting in the threads and making an opening once in a while? Seems like a stretch but I don't know!
I just got some 3mm so I might try rebuilding my setup.. I am just debating on how trying to clean my ceramic again or using a new ceramic... every so often I'll get the taste of an old juice, despite having cleaned my Ody twice and torching my ceramic... I made a thread on it but I have no idea why I still get that tase after using the Ody for a month! It's only once in a while, too!

 

[Bishopheals]

Oh dear its so simple and if you still getting a leak Ill make a video on this subject. I just got to finish up my juice in my current quad twist build highlander.

 

[subver]

Bishop I'm gonna rebuild my Ody without the wire pinching in a few minutes I think. The thing I just can't seem to grasp is why it floods maybe once every build (if that much).. it doesn't leak or flood consistently... just very rarely.