RDA or RTA?

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Paramaniac413

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Say someone wanted to try their hand had R_A and has only ever 'built' with electrical stuff in a simple college class, what would you go with?

I'd like to try building at some point, but I'm not sure what I'd be looking for. I'm not a cloud chaser, although it would be interesting to try it once, but still not a cloud chaser.

Suggestions for which to try?
Suggestions for an inexpensive setup/what to get? Preferably less than $100.
 

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You could get something so popular that good quality clones are available as a place to start.
Here's a website that has a lot of them.
Could try, for under $20, a copy of a Magma, an N22, a Mephisto, a TOBH. These are all VERY popular drippers.
For a tank, I'd suggest starting with a kayfun Lite Plus clone - from there, you'll know if you want to move to something with bigger airflow, and could later drop $40 for a Lemo or a Goblin or something...
 

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It all depends on how convenient you want dripping to be. If you don't mind continuously adding drops or if you want to fill up a tank and go. I have used both and I got more flavor from my little igo-L and Vision Eternity than I did from the tank style Kayfun. Probably why I ended up using a reo because they are the ultimate dripper imo. There is just something about it that makes vaping the best for me. Good luck at find what makes you the happiest.
 

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Old set-up EGO1100mah and Kanger tanks.. Using factory and hand made coils.

New set-up <$75. Origin mod, 4-12watt kick, Kayfun w/nano tank and short top cap, ohm meter, 4 18500 15a purp efest batt, charger.

Result lots more flavor than the Kanger tanks, and since now Regulated can vape at same wattage for complete batt charge. Instead of just the first 10 hits or so.
 

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Just upgraded to a Tobeco Magma clone from a Nautilus mini. Easy to build, supports single and dual coils without having to plug holes or anything like that. Adjustable airflow, amazing flavor, great vapor, and holds a lot of juice. Just put in a 1.5ohm micro coil and man, it's a beast even at 17.5w on my new Xpro M65. Took me ten minutes to figure out how to build after reading and watching videos.
 

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id suggest a stillare RDA or stillare clone, easy simple basic RDA with no bottom airflow. The magma is nice but i wouldnt reccommend a bottom airhole RDA to a beginner, if they are not used to dripping or wicking, the bottom airflow RDA's are more prone to leaking..

with an RDA you can just soak the wick then try to vape it. it will get you used to building coils, then you can move into RTA's and filling tanks etc... thats just my opinion, you can always start RTA's but dont fill the tank unless you know your build works already otherwise its just a waste of juice on some tanks. When you start building RDA's if you are like me, you will build more than one coil a day and try to vape it, if it is not satisfying youll give it another go and try rebuilding it again, it is more convenient with an RDA.

heres some simple RDA's, they are good I own them all, they are basic and newb friendly. less prone to leakage, and simple no frills airflow control. I Have several RDA's but I regularly use the SOD 5k and my stillare on a daily basis due to the ease of use and no leak even if i overdrip.

https://originvape.com/product/copper-s-o-d-5k-rda-no-logo-clone/
http://www.eciggity.com/mutation-x-clone-by-tobeco/
http://www.eciggity.com/sod-5k-atomizer-clone-no-logo-by-sxk/
http://www.eciggity.com/stillare-v3-rda-clone-by-infinite/
 
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I would recommend a dripper to start with, simply because they tend to have larger decks to work with. The units with tanks generally are smaller which takes a little more skill. I'm not a cloud chaser either, but the flavor and the air flow have made it very hard for me personally to go back to any tank system.

I'm going to edit this after seeing another post: I'd now like to recommend a Kanger Sub tank. The reason is that it comes with both a rebuildable "deck" and one that uses pre-made coils. This way, if you decide you don't like building, or get frustrated, or just don't feel like it for a day, you can go back to the pre-made coils without having extra stuff you don't need or use.
 
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For me, my Magma and I GO-L give a slightly better flavor. But, I have to carry a bottle to keep dripping. Also, it just seems that if I swing them around like I am walking, I get more juice through the drip tip. For me, the RDAs are for sitting still. The RTAs are for on the go.

I see the value of both.

I wouldnt go with the IGO-L if he cant drill out his own airholes though. the single airhole that comes stock with the IGO-L is verrrrryyyyy tiny and not big enough to work with an RDA IMO. 1mm I believe. That was the First RDA I purchased and the RDA just kept getting sooooo hot because the airflow is not big enough to suck in enough air to cooldown the coils.
 
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You don't need to be an electrical engineer to start dripping :). Here's what I will say, RDA's are more enjoyable for me to use than and RTA. They hold less liquid, but the learning curve isn't all that steep. You kind of just buy one and play with it for a few days then you'll have it figured out. Don't have to worry about whether your juice has too much VG or PG.

Really all you need is a set of drill bits, or screwdrivers (to wrap coils around), and a pair of pliers or tweezers(to squish kanthal builds). They do sell those coiling rods now too which probably makes it even easier but I never tried one. Don't let the people on youtube scare you, even if you don't wrap a perfect coil you can still have a great vape. If you aren't good with your hands or have limitted mobility, maybe try a coil maker, also alot of places even sell prewrapped coils (kind of a rip off if you can wrap your own though).

The hardest part for me was learning how to wick cotton. Some people use almost no cotton, I like to use a good deal of it.

Here's basically all it is though.
- Unscrew screws on your posts
- Wrap kanthal wire around a screw driver as many times as you want to get the resistance you want (Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators - I use that website to figure out the resistance and ball-park it)
- Stick coil into posts, screw the posts down, and clip the wire
- adjust the coil so it's infront of the air-flow hole
- press the fire button until it glows red, then squish the coil together with pliers so it's tighter and glows from the inside out
- Stick cotton into the coil and into the juice well
- Put juice on cotton and vape for a week or two, then either replace the cotton or the coil.

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As far as cheap RDA's to go for there's a lot of them out there.

People talk highly of the infinite CLT and the freakshow RDA's. They have good air-flow so no need to drill holes in them. The CLT is supposed to be a really good balance between flavor and vapor too.
For regulated devices to start on, maybe, a 30W istick. If you want a mech mod, you'll want a more firm understanding of ohm's law, but for regulated devices it's a lot easier and you can't really mess up.

One of those RDA's and that device will run you under a 100$ and you could buy cotton, kanthal and tinker with it if you wanted too. I really like japanese cotton because it's easy to deal with. Can just cut a strip and feed it through a coil. Then with the left over cash get a pizza or some ice-cream :).
 

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Some else mentioned the Kanger Sub tank, which is a good choice, but I would recommend the Kanger Sub Tank Mini over the full size. The "mini' Is actually as normal 22mm atty, so it is sort of misleading, the normal original Sub Tank is 25mm, too big for most mods.

The ST mini has a very nice RBA deck to work on. It is a different design than your typical RTA and I can see it being copied in the future, it is much better. The best thing is, if you don't feel like using the RBA section, you can just pop in a Kanger OCC (either .5Ω or 1.2Ω) and not have to worry about rebuilding. The performance is great with either the RBA or the OCC's.
 

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If you start with an RDA, you can concentrate on coil building instead of coil building and wicking. Wicking in RTAs can be finicky and is yet another skill you would need to learn.

I would probably start with a Magma.

You sure about this???? I see a LOT more threads involving drippers and wicking issues than I do tanks.

I diss-like Dripping, because I am Lazy. I want to build my coil 1 or 2 times a month and rewick it no more than every other day. BOTH RTA and RDA do this equally I DO NOT want to carry gear more than the device. I choose my tank and number of battery for the day based on time away from juice bottle. I want to fill my tank 1-2 times a day. Even at home I don't bother with the drippers, just too much work, when there is a tankfull of the same juice right there.
 

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Hey- New to vaping myself. I started off with a few clearos, the Veritas (RDA) and a Lemo Drop (RTA). It's not all that difficult- the building aspect- but it can take a few tries to get it juuust right. If you're only choosing between one or the other, I'd say go with the RDA first. Mainly because it's a simpler thing. If you mess up, you won't have to go through (or awkwardly empty; my RTA came in before my RDA) the tank before fixing said error. (Less disassembly required between builds, too) Plus, if you have multiple liquids, it's nice in that you can switch at will.

This is assuming you already have tanks for when you're on the move and want to vape. Even though the Veritas I have is "leak-proof" (pretty accurate), I wouldn't want to go out with it. That all said, I'm really into the Lemo Drop. My first coil was built on that and I don't think it was all that difficult (wicking it properly, on the other hand, did take me a few tries). Actually, I slightly prefer it and will use it at home/out, though I've found that I chain-vape on the Veritas like a chimney at home (and feel like one of those drippy birds with the frequency I reach for the dropper bottle.)

(The Veritas is a bit trickier to start off with though, as people will and have said. And with reason. It can an be a PITA to build coils for, relatively.)
 
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My main setup at the moment is an iStick 30W and an EMOW Mega with Kringle's Curse. I love the taste. I bought a Subtank Mini, but ran into the issue of finding a juice that works for me in it. Building coils isn't bad...I need practice, though, and was thinking of getting a coil jig to help since I have tremors as well which complicate a lot of things. Since I have been having issues finding a juice that's good, I was thinking of getting an inexpensive RDA so I can try things out (coils, juices, etc) and not have to empty a tank every time. The build deck on the Subtank Mini is nice, but small to work with at the moment. I would only use the RDA/RTA at home. I like the fact that I can put my current setup in the cup holder, or door pocket, my back pocket, my vape capsule, etc without it leaking. Plus, I can have a good bit of juice in the tank and not worry about filling unless I stop and need a refill. What's the vape like on an RDA? The Subtank Mini is super hot and I would almost prefer a cooler vape...not cold, mind you, just closer to what I'm use to if not a bit warmer. With the Kringle's Curse, I am MTL, but with other juices, like the Cinnabun I have, I can do lung hits. The other thing about the Subtank is the drip tip...to me, it's almost like the feel of a beer bottle it's so big, so I swapped it out with one I have, but I know I could find an RDA where I could switch out the drip tip. But in all seriousness, would an RDA help with the learning curve so to speak? Between finding a juice, building coils, wicking, etc?
 
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